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mikkelmikkel January 20th, 2005 05:14 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
"I'm gonna post a real big sticky both here and on the wildwest homepage Advising folks to stay away from both clan servers, TS and forums."
@Dragon

IMO a bad idea because only half the players read GF. Moreover you risk to exclude people from playing the game including yourself. IMO that's not good for the community in generel.

AzH January 20th, 2005 05:16 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by el-passdeskins
why if i get a ban i get 1 i said nothing wrong ???????????

chill pill is required:

"if i had my way id fly to you just TO SLAP YOU SLILLY YOU LITTLE PUNK ASS BITCH"

don't p!$$ off dread when he's PMSing.

EL-PASSdaBONG January 20th, 2005 05:18 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
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Originally Posted by billybobb
Passdabong
"do you have a memory problem ,,,remember you said you would be back to cause hell for this comunity when you were banned from the community ,caught using someone elses guid and lots of tweeks trying to connect to a server that you were banned from for cheating and teamkilling"
@

This prooves for all of us what I said about people taunting, blacking, lying etc about other users here. Thx Passdabong you just did a own goal!


think you missed part of the quote out , and what i said is with regards to a user who was banned and is common knolage why he was banned ,,,,,,

i love your dribble

passdeskins January 20th, 2005 05:27 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
well we will beat other gf with this crap off to bed GOOD NIGHT

EL-PASSdaBONG January 20th, 2005 05:27 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AzH
chill pill is required:

oh no more pills hmmmmmmmmmmm are they free and will they restrict my gaming

i was told you could get viagra for your eyes ,,,,,,,, it just makes you look hard :smokin:

EL-Stinkin Gringo January 20th, 2005 05:29 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Arguing in forums is like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded! No disrespect meant to poeple with less physical/mental abilities, just trying to make a point.

Dreadnought[DK] January 20th, 2005 05:34 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
gringo, you need to re-upload your avatar, the image is corrupted.

El Dragon January 20th, 2005 05:39 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
What you folks don't understand is we have control of the game. I know that we can insert a warning even in game, possibly even be able to update it remotely so that when ANY player fires up Wildwest they will get a warning notice that the members of Both clans, their servers, Teamspeak, and forums are bad places. We could possibly even make a popup screen that would warn them when they clicked on your server (and I believe we could keep it updated if you tried to change anything) So that when anyone met a member of either clan they would know it was full of bad eggs. This would only be a minor extention of the work Queeg's been doing for the game.

Like I said, the actions of members of a clan reflect on the entire clan. So if you insist on continuing this vain, you'll be publicly and officially outed as undesirables in the community.

I've now wasted 2 hours that I desparately need gearing up for a big sifi convention, yet again babysitting a bunch of pathetic adults. I hope that you folks are satisfied.

mikkelmikkel January 20th, 2005 05:42 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Well I will go sleep to. Like the other discussion then tomorrow everything will be like yesterday. This arguing won't change nofhing. Good night.

EL-PASSdaBONG January 20th, 2005 05:48 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
ok point taken ,,,,,,,,,and point understood

but shouldnt this have come way befor now ,,befor it got this far ,,as you already know and have know for a while as you have already posted what goes on there ....has it took the el clan kicking off because of the way another is flinging shit perminaltly at us ........ all we are doing is defending what has gone on for months ..

EL-PASSdaBONG January 20th, 2005 05:50 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billybobb
Well I will go sleep to. Like the other discussion then tomorrow everything will be like yesterday. This arguing won't change nofhing. Good night.


good night billy

mikkelmikkel January 20th, 2005 05:50 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Dragon you can't control the traffic on any servers.

I don't think you would like to distribute a new version every time a clan change server IP.

You cannot stop people playing the current version. Neither in 2006.

If you want to do a kind of masterserver traffic then you just risk to make a much more unstable system with lots of securityholes.

My advice is to let the clans solve the conflict themself and don't allow them to arguing in GF like you said you will not tolerate. Don't know why this thread was allowed to continue like the taunting in other threads.

Goodnight dabong. Pitty that we have to disagree all the time :(

Capt. Queeg January 20th, 2005 08:19 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
1st. Let's drop the whole thing about blocking out specific servers in the game browser. That's not going to happen. It wouldn't solve the problem and regardless of the details of implementation. We're not going there.

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gringo, you need to re-upload your avatar, the image is corrupted.
I thought it looked really cool like that! Sort of like skyscape.


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Originally Posted by Stinking Gringo
Arguing in forums is like being in the Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still retarded! No disrespect meant to poeple with less physical/mental abilities, just trying to make a point.

Welcome back long time no see (here)!!!! I think you'll admit that things have been going more smoothly here lately. Even before Dragon took on his new role. We've been keeping a much tighter grip on the fights and inflamatory statements when they start up.

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Originally Posted by everyone
blah blah blah

Now, as far as this thread goes, for the most part, people have been keeping their cool. This is the longest one of these threads has gone with people speaking rationally. I want to thank you for that.

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[posting a message asking people not to join clan based servers is]IMO a bad idea because only half the players read GF. Moreover you risk to exclude people from playing the game including yourself. IMO that's not good for the community in generel.
This will piss Bong and skins off further but BillyBobb thank you for remaining calm throughout the entire thread. You've done admirably. I practicaly fell out of my chair when I read this and it was a reasonable, relaxed and rational response. Again, Thanks.


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Originally Posted by Skins
why if i get a ban i get 1 i said nothing wrong ???????????

This is directed at everyone, skins just happenned to be the last person to say the B word....

Will you all knock it off about this banning crap. You'd think we banned people every day. In all of last year, you can practicly count on one hand the number of people we've banned from this forum. Two of those people started posts saying "You can go ahead and ban me but". Another makes a living being banned from servers and forums.

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Originally Posted by Bong
to admins please edit any posts with regards to family members as i dont want to post and be banned

Oh, good grief. He was talking figuratively. "Try to find out yourself how to solve the problems here instead thinking mom and dad come do it for you." is not a reference to your parents. He was building on what ringo said..

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Originally Posted by Ringo
agreed on the 1st bit dragon, both clans are maybe immature but maybe for the love of the game .. or maybe we have a group of babysitters correcting our "5" year olds on the forums, as u well putted ure fed up with this and maybe we all are, maybe we don't need baby sitters or perhaps maybe... im wrong

That's right, you are wrong on that one. Why do you think we have so many moderators and AhZ and dread have special threads in the staff forums in order to keep this lot in line. This forum is a blessing and a curse on GF. We have probably the most dedicated, passionate bunch of people on the whole site. However, you guys really know how to piss each other off.

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the actions bit .... actions lead again to reactions....
Yep. That happens a lot with siblings. One kid will do little teasing, out of sight of the parents. It'll be nothing to bad, but enough to drive the other to total distraction. Then that poor kid will scream and punch and cry till they are the one that the parent gets really annoyed with or the one the parent punishes. It's a good tactic. And it works!

But that would never happen here....

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Originally Posted by Skins
id fly to you just TO SLAP YOU SLILLY YOU LITTLE PUNK ASS BITCH THE END

Yeaaaahhhhh.... Calm and rational.......

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Originally Posted by Vonner
After seeing all the Arse kissing before I could reply...

You could say what you want before that...

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WW still gets its Billing.... Cough...
Vonner, you asked if you could contribute more for secret Santa, I suggested that the other mod team members would love to get something for Christmas. You agreed that would be cool. We talked on the phone several times. I didn't want to make you pay all that shipping (plus I didn't want to hand out their addresses without their permission) so I told you to ship everything bulk to me and I would ship it all out to the mod team members. I know it saved you some money at least even though you said repeatedly that was not an issue and you wanted to help support the mod.
You chose to give us each a stein and a mouse pad. That was VERY GENEROUS and was more than I was expecting. I created a special thread and said an extra thank you to you in it! I overnighted one package to iggy and two dayed the another to Dragon to ensure they would get them before Christmas. I sent the others off to Rose and Hewster. You called me a couple times since then asking about suspicious activity on the servers. I told you it was not a problem that you called and I'd rather know about that sort of thing and to call anytime, it was a pleasure talking to you.

After the New Years holiday, we got an email from a player saying you were flipping out about us. Accusing one us of making racial statments in front of AhZ and Gizmo and slandering you because of your last name, and going back to your theory of a year ago that Hewster is actually WildDK trying to drum up action by sparking contraversy.

You spent three hours attacking some poor noob player who was playing poorly enough for you to think he was me. He wasn't. The first thing you said when you rejoined the server and started yelling at everyone was, "I can't get in". That prompted us to look at the emails where we sent out the password for the first and only test session so far in 2005. We found your name wasn't on the list of final testers. We are all guessing that this is why you are angry.

Yes, we divided the testers into two groups. Those who had caught significant issues and showed up regularly and those who rarely showed up for testing. We want to have some very precise tests in this last couple rounds and we are releasing some early news to the smaller set beta testers. Our full testers list was too large to manage and needed to be trimmed. It turns out your name was not in either group. Dragon caught that our "before" and "after" count did not add up but couldn't identify which name fell through the cracks. It turns out it was yours.

I've already appologized for this. But we still don't understand how that relates to racial comments that no one ever heard...not even the "witnesses". And BTW, I did not pass your last name on to anyone other than your secret santa and that person was not who you accused of being racist. I'm fine with letting this drop but I'm not going to sit back and let you rub our faces in some imagined slight that you won't even step up and identify. You have not yet said ONE (1) word to us about why you are angry, if and how we've offended you. The beta test thing I think is a good guess. If you'd called me when you couldn't get back into the server, you'd have been in to test within the next 5 minutes. You're being so snotty about things now, that I don't think either of us would enjoy you beta testing now.

If you want your cash back for the Secret Santa Gifts, I'm quite sure that can be quickly arranged assuming you at least have the decency to send us an email explaining why you are pissed.

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Originally Posted by PA
I want to stay out of this fights.I'm tird of it.it is so chilish.I was just pointing out on the facts that you have no proof that all WWE members are involved in this.

I'm tired of it too.

It is childish.

And you're right. Not all members are doing this. I notice that on that list is Jana. I usually see him playing as Jana. However, the fact of the matter is that your guys are doing it and know of others who aren't in your clan who are also involved in the baiting. I have no authority at all over you guys, so I'm asking once again, please stop. Haven't you had enough fun by now? Yes it pisses them off. Even if it might be payback but does it have to be like this all the time? Mikkel was banned after he kept pushing harder and harder and harder till the whole dam broke. The whole use of cheats in RtCW based games WAS the final load of straw but it came up only after there were soooo many taunts and backlashes and infighting that the whole situation was unbearable. Can you actually say that was an enjoyable time for anyone? Is that the world everyone has to live in????

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Originally Posted by vonner
Azh...
I really do not know you very much.... And that is ok.. I am not part of any bull s hhh itt Clan..... Ask any of the dev team/ WW community. I have tried to be very fair and did my best to not attack/offend many peeps on GF... I have enjoyed GF for some time now... I wish that I did take Jeff/Noes advice and join the GF crew a few months back... But There is some real/ serious issues to the validity of many of the players/dev team crew... Not that they cheat.. But their is a very close niche of players who play the game in cloak and dagger... Not that it is wrong ..? But many are using cheats / Server enabled cheats to create a gathering of a fair/full server/ gathered group... And I do not think it is fair to the gaming community...

I am just expressing my opinion.... And to the validity of my statements... Well I just hope that the real Dev Team member decides to step out and make a statement....

Peace................... VONNER

I agree with most of what you are saying here but not with what you are implying. Hewster <> WildDK, Dragon has several names that he has posted here. Iggy and Hewster each have one other name that they occasionally play under to join a match objectively. I play only under Queeg. Feel free to YaWN my name and follow the two GUIDs it shows I've played under. I am who I am. You can take it or leave it. There is no area 51 conspiracy with the devteam joining servers under 300 different names just to cause trouble.

I do take your point, if it was one you were making, about the teasing hints I gave regarding the new maps under development and the cloak and dagger around them. I'll not mention them again here. Frankly, I was in a weird mood that day and was happy to be able to leak a couple screen shots. The intrigue and fun turned annoying to the readers when no one wanted to play along and tease out more information. It didn't quite work how I'd intended.

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Originally Posted by Pa
Are you sure that this changing name has been made by WWE members.Maybe someone of those 7 has done that. Who knows?

You obviously know what is going on. Just ask them to stop. We don't need or even want or care who it is. The development team isn't going to be able to do anything with a name or even an email address anyway. You're a friend of theirs, just ask them to stop goofing off and play the WildWest not the game that's been made around the game.

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I think all smart people here understand that when you are kicked from the el clan server just by saing "lucky bastard"
Yeah, that one did go a bit too far...An example was made of some one but it was a bad example.

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Originally Posted by BillyBobb
when it is bad for more player to be seen with el people or wwe people then it is quite undestandable that people using nick-names.

You're right that both groups have made it absolutely impossible to play WW each other. Both clans are caught up in some other game that doesn't have a name or rules anymore... Frankly, I don't know that it can or will end. How do you end a war that has been going on for years... It sure doesn't give much hope for the future of the Palestinians and Israelis does it...

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Originally Posted by Ringo
Lets get dr phill in here?

If this whole situation weren't so annoying, how can you help but laugh? I expect this is one of the most popular soap operas of the whole GF! I KNOW some people come here just to read these threads!

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Originally Posted by BillyBobb
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Originally Posted by El Dragon
Most clans I know would be ashamed at any of thier members pulling pathetic stunts like this."

What will you then call the names passdeskins uses "wanker etc"?

So, then that makes your mates actions something thing to be proud of? You're saying that your clan's honor is based solely on Skin's behavior? Skins, did you know what a powerful man this makes you?

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Originally Posted by Skins
dont hide on this 1 dev team iff ya got the balls ask whos server it is and sort it if not you going to let little kidds like them KILL THE GAME

This was suppose to put us in the mood to work with you?

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Originally Posted by Skins
and if i get a ban from here now who cares

Oh, grow up....


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Originally Posted by Bong
but as always everyone turns a blind eye ,,,,, well its a pitty as i thought some were a bit stronger (well i hoped ) it goes to show that some who say this mod means the world to them ... if so why do we constantly sit on our hands ,watch and do absolutly nothing

Yeah, Yee Ha. OK, Here... I'll do everything that we have in our power to do to stop them... You ready? You sure? OK here we go.

You there! STOP THAT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! THAT IS VERY NAUGHTY! IF YOU KEEP IT UP WE'LL ASK YOU TO BAN YOURSELF FROM YOUR OWN SERVER! Don't make us do it!!!!

Does that help? We've now done everything you've asked. And as I am typing, you know that I am not sitting on my hands.

What else are we supposed to do to help the situation... We can't wave a wand and make it all go away. Believe me I wish we could.

Guys seriously. Come on.. Give it a rest already.... enough is enough




Bong: I'm sure your pissed at me now too. Skins too probably. I know you've got real issues here. (And skins we haven't forgotten about your other issue either.) But I don't know how to help you. Telling us that we won't help cause we ain't got the balls ain't helpin nothin.




So now...
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Originally Posted by Skins
Yeah, let's do it then. Get it over and stop name stealing and the t/k.
Where and When???

Hmmm The guantlet was thrown.... Is the WWE gonna pick it up?


Oh - And Rudi - Thanks for running the server but could you reign it in a bit?


OK - I'm off... I was up till 4am last night working on the new launching program for 1.6 and I wanted to get more done on it tonight. Yes, I put 6 hours in WW development last night and 3 the night before and 4 the night before that. All while working a paying job and maintaining sanity here and with GF in general. And not giving up any time with my wife and four kids. So forgive me if I'm a bit cross tonight.

Rudi_alias_Rudi January 20th, 2005 09:36 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
What are you discussing about here? FortBravo is up since about 1 month and there was good gaming all the time.
Maybe one reason for these good games is that you can say what you want there so long you dont spoil the current game. (If the currently majority of players there doesnt like another one then they might kick him of course)
Although I dont do the EL-naming thing by myself it doesnt cares me like it dont cares me if you are using a names like WWE-sucks-d**k or Rudi=cheater.
So come to Fort Bravo, enjoy gaming - inclusive swearing and taunting like you want.
If you dont like it stay away. If you want not to see the server in ASE then configure you server-filter!

Anyway, everybody is welcome on Fortbravo.
81.169.149.208:27960 WildWest 1.5
81.169.149.208:33333 Call Of Duty (Where we make WildWest advertising in future)
81.169.149.208:7777 UT2004 (currently testing server)
81.169.149.208:8767 Teamspeak - use it for gaming! in different bandits/cowboys channels

If questions contact admins by email
gamer@fortbravo.net
(I wont discuss about the server in your childish way in puplic - expectly about technically problems. Dont contact ME via Gamingforums PMs about server issues)

@dragon who said "What you folks don't understand is we have control of the game"
You didnt understood that the players ARE the game. If the few regular players here stop gaming because you try to control them then your game will stop existing soon - keep this in mind plz.
Did sb removed one posting of dragon? Ive read it - the part about the central router was very amusing.
I suggest you to open your complete controlling plans right now to see the feedback of the community before you release 1.6 - I dont know wheather I want connect to a auth-server which tells me what to do and not to do or which is able to notify my online times my IPs, my names global

HellRaiserKANE January 20th, 2005 10:20 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
im just posting something to Vonner -- You were asking why admins play incognito -- well the answer is simple - for most admins we play incognito - to see if people on our server are Behaving

if i join my server under a diff name -- its not cuz im trying to cause trouble its cuz im playing and looking for anyone causing trouble -- then i come out and ask them to behave etc.....

thats all im saying lol

Capt. Queeg January 20th, 2005 10:58 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
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Did sb removed one posting of dragon? Ive read it - the part about the central router was very amusing.
I suggest you to open your complete controlling plans right now to see the feedback of the community before you release 1.6 - I dont know wheather I want connect to a auth-server which tells me what to do and not to do or which is able to notify my online times my IPs, my names global
I deleted that post as soon as I read it. Not to hide it but because it was just plain wrong.

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This message has been deleted by Capt. Queeg. Reason: You're wrong on this fact and you're bringing up a whole ethical debate that will go beyond the current war... IM me...
We don't control the auth server, it is the same server that controls all of RtCW. Besides that's part of RtCW's central code not part of what is modifiable.

So we aren't doing any such thing. Even if we could, I wouldn't go for it and more importantly neither would Hewster. Dragon was a bit excited at the time...

Biggus Dickus January 20th, 2005 11:45 PM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
:eek: Again????


:cya:

Hewster January 21st, 2005 02:21 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
I basically agree with everything Queeg last said,
And to confirm I have NO plans on "controlling" which server people
play on... here is an extract of an e-mail I sent to all Dev members
after reading this thread last night:
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I firmly believe wwe can run their server however
they wish, including naming themselves anything they like,
it really is their right, you cannot force people to do what you want
on their server.
I am considering giving wwe & el an ultimatum, which will effect ALL
WildWest players...
Until your solve your disputes (at least publicly) We won't be releasing
1.6... This is MY right :) ... comments on this decision are welcome.

Hewster

Biggus Dickus January 21st, 2005 02:28 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hewster
comments on this decision are welcome.

My comment is that you have a very, very, very big extra time to finish it...

Vonner January 21st, 2005 04:04 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Queeg,

First off I never asked for recognition of what I did for the dev team… Have you seen me post anything about it on these forums. What I did was done because I wanted to. Do I want to get a refund…….? Please… Don’t be stupid…. You guys just don’t get it!!!! … and why do you continue to ask why I’m so upset….. Don’t make me a bad guy…. You can decide to come forward with the facts… Or not… I’m done with it….

Withholding the new release of WW1.6 is completely up to Hewster .. But I see it as a immature and another controlling move by the Dev team. Why are you guys so controlling… it’s a game right….? You want it to get recognition correct…..? So why don’t you guys just stay out of the picture and Work on the mod… I hear so many times that you don’t want to baby sit anymore…. So then don’t…. Leave the WW community alone…. You may have rights to the MOD … But you don’t own the RTCW gaming community….


.......... VONNER

Dreadnought[DK] January 21st, 2005 04:30 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vonner
Why are you guys so controlling… it’s a game right….? You want it to get recognition correct…..? So why don’t you guys just stay out of the picture and Work on the mod…

because the reputation of the mod pretty much stands and fall with the community, this comunity. when people here act as they do, the mod is put in some very bad light. why should any new players download WW when they see the established community act like spoiled boys with toys (no offense to the female players). this place scares people away; and not just potential WW players, older players begin to think too....

i know this 'can't we just be friend and get along thingy' is pretty much dead, but dammit, think of how you make it look and you make yourself look!

AzH January 21st, 2005 04:33 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
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Originally Posted by Dreadnought[DK]
because the reputation of the mod pretty much stands and fall with the community, this comunity. when people here act as they do, the mod is put in some very bad light. why should any new players download WW when they see the established community act like spoiled boys with toys (no offense to the female players). this place scares people away; and not just potential WW players, older players begin to think too....

i know this 'can't we just be friend and get along thingy' is pretty much dead, but dammit, think of how you make it look and you make yourself look!

you speak the truth. :nodding:

Biggus Dickus January 21st, 2005 04:38 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
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Originally Posted by AzH
you speak the truth. :nodding:

Absolutly. I told it 1 year ago, here. And after all that time, nothing changed...

This thread is nothing but a trash can food. Put it there.

HellRaiserKANE January 21st, 2005 05:03 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
I agree 100% with Stop the Fighting -- Play the Game - what AzH said had more truth then most posts ive ever read in this forum

Our WW Section makes a impression on GF.com - people see it and either think oh my god why is this even on gf.com and sometimes they see it and think WOW i should try this mod it looks great -- like AzH said its a Godsend to GF.com and WW and it can be a Downfall to GF and WW - also think of the players that come to GF.com just to the WW section -- when those players pack up and leave - they are NOT just leaving the Forums They are Leaving GF.com and WW Mod

That is a Downfall for BOTH WW Mod and GF - which i rather see Rise to the top of their markets and not fall down the ladder Slowly

Guys like everyone else thats asked this of you ill ask it as well
Please Just Swallow your Prides and Play the game like Men (and Women) when you guys feel like trying to provoke someone into a fight - just think to yourselves is it really worth all the time and trouble just to try and piss someone off

and again like it was said before - its not just this clan or that clan -- its BOTH Clans - Now EL i know most of your and have absolutely no issues with anyone in EL - and WWE i know a lot of you guys and most of you i have never had issues with either

but it is BOTH clans causing things - so just behave you know - dont go through all the trouble just to provoke and piss off someone - its not worth it - i mean look at hewster he is ready to just say Fu$% it and not even release 1.6 and there are so many new and decent WW players looking forward to WW 1.6 -- I for one dont wanna see them pissed off and leave cuz of 2 clans influencing Hew to not release 1.6

and @ Hewster -- Given the mod rights are yours and kevins - it is your decision and all i can do is plead that you not allow the bickering of 2 clans cause you to not release 1.6 -- 1.6 will be absoluetly brilliant and given the man hrs put into NOT ONLY by you and Kevin - but also by Beta Testers -- these testers are not gonna be happy with denying the release of 1.6 after they spent all the time testing it - atleast i am assuming they wouldnt be happy with it

so please do not let 2 clans that bicker cause you to not release it - WW MOD has Extremely GREAT potential - and i For one do not wanna see it Die out

and given i have knowledge that the game is planned to go Farther in the Future - i dont think halting the release of 1.6 is a step forward - but a step back

JW

Dreadnought[DK] January 21st, 2005 05:36 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
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Originally Posted by HellRaiserKANE
but also by Beta Testers -- these testers are not gonna be happy with denying the release of 1.6 after they spent all the time testing it - atleast i am assuming they wouldnt be happy with it

if that's what it takes, then i'm for it.

mikkelmikkel January 21st, 2005 05:59 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Nice post Queeg :). hmm but I still wondering why the use of some teasing names can be such a big problem that passde has to complain here in GF and afterwards the release 1.6 depends of that. As Rudi says people can do whatever they want as long they don't spoil the current game, so when somebody logon as rudi-cheater and he doesn't kick them don't you think that's a nice admin?. As I understand it Rudi is/was banned at Rockridge to the end but Rudi dosn't ban the admin that server even the admin that server banned him and also accuse him cheating. So it is good to play at FB and the admin is very nice. Let people use the names they want but stop people whining and taunting here in GF. As PA said wwe doesn't start the conflickt-threads here in GF. This thread was started by passde because of some stupid names. The names was caused by - yes again taunting posting from el squint. No matter dk is member of wwe or not then I know he has been and I know it is taunting when squint post what he does. Everybody says don't taunt on the ww servers but apperantly it is okay to do it here or what? So if you see some stupid name on a server just forget about it. It is just a game and some stupid names. But don't expect no pay back eventhough it is just for fun.

I like gaming where the talking is free and no restriction. Of course none of us like spammers and people doing racial etc statements. I'm sure such people will be excluded to be outside the room for a while.

Hfx-Rebel January 21st, 2005 06:01 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
[quote2=Dread]
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiserKANE
but also by Beta Testers -- these testers are not gonna be happy with denying the release of 1.6 after they spent all the time testing it - atleast i am assuming they wouldnt be happy with it




if that's what it takes, then i'm for it.[/quote2]
me too.

stop the bloody bickering, stay away from servers that you don't care for...and enjoy the damn game!!

Capt. Queeg January 21st, 2005 06:11 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Everybody says don't taunt on the ww servers but apperantly it is okay to do it here or what?
No its not. That's why when threads like this start up we usually squash them right away. The forum rules demand a civil attitude in posts regarding the players and other forum members.

For whatever reason, this thread got left open. We try to allow people who are very upset a chance to recover themselves and express their issues. Sometimes that means the rules get bent a little. In this case, I think everyone needed a chance to vent. So, I don't expect this thread to remain for much longer. We'll probably kill it later in the day. Pretty much everyone has had a chance to have their say and get their points across. Leaving it here will only keep the issue burning. At least that's what I'm thinkin' right now.


(BTW. Two quotes that I'd attributed to bong, at the end, were actually skins. I've fixed them now. Sorry Bong.)

Rudi_alias_Rudi January 21st, 2005 06:39 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
@Hewster and Queeg
:) Iam glad to hear that that onliest things Iam afraid about in 1.6 are:
1. volley heashot gibs - means IMO less funny long long doctors vs doctors fights :(
2. the stronger pain animations - which are not good for my kind of aiming :(
3. the waeker gatling- which makes good attackers tactic in beach, town and BattleCreek superfluous whic is more atractive for noobs but not for regular players!

I wondered since a while why dragon was threaten us with "new kind of player identification/authorization" and stuff several times .
Dragon, as I to got to know you 1 year ago you were just a nice person who was intersted about scripting, technical stuff and sometimes politcal disputes (like me) but the actually threatening things and lawman stuff dont matches to IMO - you dont need this!

BITE_ME!! January 21st, 2005 06:44 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Its a FUN GAME GUYS!!! Lets just take it as that - play and have fun.

Enough of all the bickering. My goodness for a moment I thought 90% of us were ADULTS!!!!

Biggus Dickus January 21st, 2005 06:46 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
:baby:

Capt. Queeg January 21st, 2005 06:51 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
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Hmm... How do people find these threads and why are we so careful with thread titles, well look at the main page at www.filefront.com

HellRaiserKANE January 21st, 2005 07:02 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Queeg
Hmm... How do people find these threads and why are we so careful with thread titles, well look at the main page at www.filefront.com


that just helps my other point out -- with all this bickering and fighting we are just pushing new commers and Vets away from GF.com and from the WW MOD

i mean when a Die hard WWer leaves WW - they just didnt leave a MOD they left gf.com as well

read my first post in this thread to see a better image of what im saying
jw

Hfx-Rebel January 21st, 2005 07:05 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
[quote2=Queeg]Hmmm The guantlet was thrown.... Is the WWE gonna pick it up?
[/quote2]
still waiting for the reply on this one :nodding:

Rudi_alias_Rudi January 21st, 2005 07:52 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Queeg
Hmmm The guantlet was thrown.... Is the WWE gonna pick it up?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigus
still waiting for the reply on this one


Ah I had to look in a dictionary for "guantlet" - so now I see that you are talking about "Schiller's Handschuh".

Si, Iam aleways ready for a clan war - Id got nice talking with Nihilio some time ago about it and he wanted to ask his EL mates! He is nice guy and doesnt really cares about disputes but likes taunting and bitching sometimes as well as me.:)
We didnt meet again so I dont know wheather he asked about it in EL-forum!?
The question is also: Is EL-clan existenet anymore?
Just open another thread to discuss when and where and WWE is ready to kick your asses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane
that just helps my other point out -- with all this bickering and fighting we are just pushing new commers and Vets away from GF.com and from the WW MOD

I see it in the opposite way. As more dirty a thread is as more people come to read it and as more they like to be part of it. IMO even AZH has a lot fun with us here and maybe he had never tried out WildWest if we were talking about flowers and love only. :)
See nobody would cares about Michael Jackson anymore but if there come out dirty things everybody is intersted.

Hfx-Rebel January 21st, 2005 08:01 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
[quote2=Rudi]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Queeg
Hmmm The guantlet was thrown.... Is the WWE gonna pick it up?

Originally Posted by Bigus
still waiting for the reply on this one [/quote2]

:confused:

Capt. Queeg January 21st, 2005 08:03 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

I see it in the opposite way. As more dirty a thread is as more people come to read it and as more they like to be part of it. IMO even AZH has a lot fun with us here and maybe he had never tried out WildWest if we were talking about flowers and love only.
See nobody would cares about Michael Jackson anymore but if there come out dirty things everybody is intersted.
Yeah but that's excitement in someone else's life not their own. People like to watch trouble as long as it is someone else's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.takeourword.com/Issue055.html
From Lloyd W. Brown:"What is the origin of the phrase to run the gauntlet?"

It originated in the 17th century, at which time the Germans adopted a sort of military punishment from the Swedes in which a man was stripped to the waist and made to run between two rows of soldiers, who struck him with sticks or knotted ropes. The passage through which he ran was a gatloppe in Swedish, translated to gantlope in German. It became gantelope in English. This procedure was used as civilian punishment in Colonial America where it was spelled gantlet or gauntlet. The word came to be pronounced and spelled thus by contamination from gauntlet "a glove worn as part of medieval armor".

The phrase throw down the gauntlet, which means "to challenge", comes from the medieval practice of throwing one's glove down in front of one's opponent to challenge him. That phrase dates from the mid 16th century. This word is Germanic in origin, coming from French gantelet, the diminutive form of gant. One source suggests that the word may be related to Old English windan "to wind", the final d having changed to a t in the period of a single Indo-European language.


Angel-Eyes January 21st, 2005 08:12 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
I'm glad i'm out of it. :rolleyes: :vikki:

Biggus Dickus January 21st, 2005 08:13 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudi_alias_Rudi
Originally Posted by Bigus

:vikki:









































STOP THE BEER!

Rudi_alias_Rudi January 21st, 2005 08:15 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Friedrich Schiller - Wilhelm Tell

RUDENZ:
The Emperor is my lord, not you! I'm free.
As you by birth, and I can cope with you
In every virtue that beseems a knight.
And if you stood not here in that King's name,
Which I respect e'en where 'tis most abused,
I'd throw my gauntlet down, and you should give
An answer to my gage in knightly sort.
Ay, beckon to your troopers! Here I stand;
But not like these [Pointing to the people.
-unarmed. I have a sword,
And he that stirs one step-


But see also Schiller's "The Glove" poetry here:
http://www.poetry-archive.com/s/the_glove.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwanzus Longus
STOP THE BEER!

This is a thing I thought aleready several times :beer:

Capt. Queeg January 21st, 2005 08:42 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

RUDENZ:
The Emperor is my lord, not you! I'm free.
As you by birth, and I can cope with you
In every virtue that beseems a knight.
And if you stood not here in that King's name,
Which I respect e'en where 'tis most abused,
I'd throw my gauntlet down, and you should give
An answer to my gage in knightly sort.
Ay, beckon to your troopers! Here I stand;
WOW That is an INCREDIBLE QUOTE!!!

IM ONESHOT January 21st, 2005 08:49 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
like previous posts this is a game, lets solve our problems in the game. I was on a particular server the other day and someone was was bleeding and t/k me. I dont know who it was, and didnt care i didnt say anything i just switched to the other team and shot the crap out of him.problem solved.lets act like adults and have fun.its a game, its a GAME, ITS A GAME! I say take the challenge, vent frustrations in the game. Lets all try not to take things so personally. Everyone know the golden rule? they teach it to 5yr olds lets follow it.:deal:

EL-PASSdaBONG January 21st, 2005 09:17 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billybobb
As Rudi says people can do whatever they want as long they don't spoil the current game, so when somebody logon as rudi-cheater and he doesn't kick them don't you think that's a nice admin?.

i think you will see that rudi has already posted that he did ban a player for using this name ,,,,,i also think you have posted in this thread with regards to it too (including sometype of teamkilling fabrication) to do with him too ...so you do have a small problem with memory ,,,does this mean you dont have a clue as to what you are even posting about as it changes from post to post ,,so does this mean that you are not giving a true refection of fort bravo and the admin and it aint a nice place to be?

now what post is right ,,,your first condeming skins or your second saying fb is a fun place to be ,one must be wrong please help me

does it mean rudi was in the wrong to ban and just done it cos it was skins which means not everyone welcome or is it fort isnt as nice a place to be ,,,im realy confused now billy

ps its not a dissagreement ,just a correction

Angel-Eyes January 21st, 2005 09:31 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
(Angel walks in and looks around and thinks to himself "my this is just like an episode of the Muppet show all we need now is a guest apperance from Ozzy Osbourne chewing on a bat) :lol:

Ignacio January 21st, 2005 09:42 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
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Was someone looking for me??

-Ozzy

Angel-Eyes January 21st, 2005 09:44 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Ozzy!!!!! How are yer m8? How would you like your bat? Grilled, fried or as it comes? :lol:

Ignacio January 21st, 2005 09:51 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel-Eyes
Ozzy!!!!! How are yer m8? How would you like your bat? Grilled, fried or as it comes? :lol:

Toasted, just like I am....

mikkelmikkel January 21st, 2005 10:31 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
@Angel
I guess you are not more out of it creating a new server with the same banlist as rockridge. A banlist I understand you give out to whoever wants it!

@dabong
I don't know why deskin is banned but I guess that it is because he teamkilled some weeks ago. You don't know if Rudi banned him or it was a sub admins or...Neither do I. What I found out is that the admin at FB is nice and I then suggested deskin to write a mail to him and perhaps that could solve the problem.

Rudi I really like CoD server and we have many good games that server. So people come join if you want to kick a noob like me ..

Angel-Eyes January 21st, 2005 10:33 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billybobb
@Angel
I guess you are not more out of it creating a new server with the same banlist as rockridge. A banlist I understand you give out to whoever wants it!

@dabong
I don't know why deskin is banned but I guess that it is because he teamkilled some weeks ago. You don't know if Rudi banned him or it was a sub admin or...Neither do I. What I found out is that the admin at FB is nice and I then suggested deskin to write a mail to him and perhaps that could solve the problem.

Huh? What drugs are you smoking Billy? I haven't even got a server up yet and as for the ban list it never has been given out to ANYONE.

Now here we have another classic example of a muppet with fiction. All I can say is spot the strings. :lol:

Hang on i've just realised something, Billy has an unusual tallent he can fortell the future and read minds. I bow to your superiority. :bows:

mikkelmikkel January 21st, 2005 10:37 AM

Re: The continued spat between the EL's and WWE
 
Hmm somebody told me that you gave EL ringo that banlist becuase it seems like he has the same person on it? hmm perhaps I'm wrong. Bans are all over this community lol.

About the server I saw you will create a new server for the clan you are starting.


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