a new server?

[Hewster]

Be very carefull with any network tweeking apps.. I have heard some horror stories !

Well as stated above, upload bandwidth is THE most important bit.

I occasionally run a server on my ADSL connection
with only 256 Kbits/sec up I can host 10 players quite well
you must set the "max_rate" cvar to an appropriate setting
I set this to 3250 when running a 10 player server, which is
a little on the low side, but just about adequate for 10 players.
Its works nice and smooth with just 8, and I generally start
getting bad lag if I try hosting 12 players.

My suggested max_rate settings are:
up-to 8 players 3750 (Bandwidth needed = 30Kbytes/s = 234 Kbits/s)
8 to 10 players 4000 (Bandwidth needed = 39Kbytes/s = 312 Kbits/s)
10 - 14 players 5250 (Bandwidth needed = 72Kbytes/s = 574 Kbits/s)
14 - 18 players 6500 (Bandwidth needed = 114Kbytes/s = 914 Kbits/s)
18 - 24 players 10000 (Bandwidth needed = 234Kbytes/s =1.9 Mbits/s)
24 - 32 players 15000 (Bandwidth needed = 469Kbytes/s =3.75 Mbits/s)

Those max_rate numbers are bytes per second per slot (player)
divide those numbers by 1024 to get Kb/s (Kilobytes per second)
multiply by max slots to get your max possible used bandwidth.
So for a maximum of 8 players:
3750 / 1024 = 3.66 * 8(# players) = 29.3Kbytes/s * 8(# bits in a byte) = 234Kbits/s

of course if you have the spare bandwidth you can just set to 15000
and be done with it

Many people get confused what rate to set to, and since
the rate needed will fluctuate during gameplay (depending
on what is actually happening at the time), and indeed some
maps need more bandwidth than others (entity count), and of
course the actual number of players on the server, its easy
to get confused... keep to the above suggestions and you won't
go far wrong
NOTE: WW needs less bandwidth than RtCW (the weapons fire much slower )

btw, most WW maps play best at between 3 v 3 and 8 v 8 players
I think the ideal number is 6 v 6 (but this is subjective)
and all play horrible (IMO) over 10 v 10 (too chaotic )

to test your upload, simply upload a large file to somewhere that
you know you have a good connection to (your ISP's web-space)
make note of the time it takes, and you can work out your upload
bandwidth... do this at different times of the day to see if you get
effected by local traffic during peek times.
OR use some kind of on-line bandwidth tester like:
For US / Canada players:
http://www.dslreports.com/stest
For UK / European players:
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp

Hewster

[Capt. Queeg]

I was going to post that link but I didn't know if you UKs had a closer connection. I'll start another thread since everone will be posting numbers now... and we can keep this thread clear for server related posts...

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=171401

[EL-PASSdaBONG]

now if its old ntl motorola modem ,,,they can be uncapped becoming unlimited upload, if its the terayon modem ,,they are harder to uncap ,,,unless you manage to get one that is on the engineers mac id,,thus also being unlimited,
the main thing with ntl is the mac id as this is registered to your bandwith which is set by ntl ,,,,

not sure if there is a way to manualy scramble your id

hopefully you got the motorola one ,,way easyer

[HellRaiserKANE]

uncapping is higly illegal lol -- u trying to get AzH in trouble there LOL

[EL-PASSdaBONG]

Originally Posted by HellRaiserKANE

uncapping is higly illegal lol -- u trying to get AzH in trouble there LOL

i think you will find that ,,,the motorola has its on util ,,,supply via ntl ,,they just didnt tell anyone what its full funtions were as there engineers were using then to uncap while at your home ,quicker for them while working,,,

nope ,,the engineers uncap all there modems for speed ,,mainly for upload while at you house they often give you them for test reasons ,,,,,,

maily if you net drops connection all the time which is common at ntl
azh just needs to pull the plug for a few days and report,,,when they cant find the fault they will supply a engineers moden ,normaly the same as the one you got,,all he has to do is open it up ,then open his own up and set the same ,,,jobs done ,,no more probs with net

no modems were hurt in the making of this post ,,this is only known as a friend worked at ntl

[HellRaiserKANE]

ok now im confused -- Docsys Modems get their Cap info from a Server at your ISP - to uncap it you can tell the modem to get its Docsys from a server u designate and u can supply your own cap info to your modem -- which is highly illegal in VA USA

im not sure what your talking about by NTL
my modem is a terayon

[Ignacio]

Maybe he could set up another TS server instead?

[HellRaiserKANE]

lol do we need more TS servers -- we got Yours,Mine,Poohs, and i belive Deadeye is setting one up or maybe it was Angel Eyes not sure

lol - i think ill stick to trying to get players in server

[Capt. Queeg]

Yeah, you're probably right on that. And Gaming forums already has a Ventrillo server. So that won't help.

I like AzH's Idea of a local UK gaming server. We really need one right now for all the players from that country!

[DEADEYE]

Just had a great game in the {rev} clan server great news about all new servers cheers guys an galls

Ian Yee Haaa