Were Is The Mine
 

right guys this is no good we need the mine map were as it gone it been gone for to long we need it back BRING BACK THE KING OF MAPS THE MINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:0wned: :beer:

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it wont be on the new patch i think m8 ,but yes the mine is the best map i everplayed on ww.

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well it's getting some major reconstruction (and hew's still at it) so it'll probably not be in the 1.6 release.

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I don't understand what was wrong with the original mine map. I know the dev team said it was unfair, and that some things needed changed, but i have asked people that played the original, they all tell me it was fine the way it was.

Now we are being told that it will not be released in 1.6, nor have any of the testers ever tested it.:confused: :(

What was so bad about it that it needed changed?:confused:

Bring back mine asap please.

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The Mine map should be in 1.7 along with female skins. I hope it gets "fixed" soon...

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never played themine but I hope 1.7 will comeout soon! :d and the PB kicks will be solved:p

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well we added some new weapons and features with 1.5 and a few other tweeks. Can you imagine trying to get past the mine entrance (that nice tight bottleneck) if there was say a gatling with a sherif and a doctor feeding him ammo and health? thats right at crew of 3 could hold of as many bandits as possible. So we've been making changes to make it more assaultable. Gringo added an interesting little bit, and hew's decieded that he's redecorating the mine tunnels (the bit he's got is nice) but we are working on all the stuff for the 1.6 release and mine would take hew too long for this release.
but the next version will have the new and improved mine map back.
I promiss.
...
I think.
...
er um I hope :D

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I remember playing Mine when it was in play and it had gatling guns soldiers,Sheriffs,and medics then.I think 1.5 guns are less accurate now then they were back then and we managed to get through the bottleneck.Nothing a well placed nade flurry wouldnt fix.It would have been real nice if we could have at least tried it out with 1.6.Heck even if it is as unbalanced now as you say i still think most people would take the good with the bad to just have another map in circulation until 1.7 when it could then be polished.I really miss the mine map :(

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correct, you now can't snipe with the henery or other riffles, which makes for more close actions (and lots of fun) but the mine entrance (as in original) had that rather long entrance tunnel and a group of 3 cowboys at the cross road tunnel could hold off as many bandits as ya could put together. the roof is too low to toss nades too far and moltovs would explode on the ceiling. with that as the only way to get into the mines, it would be imposible to get past that point.

(and you though getting past the bridge on town was tough....)

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I appreciate that peeps want to see the return of the Mine map,
and it is still on the cards, however, due to changes in my Real life
I don't have very much time for anything WW atm :(

This will change.........


Hewster

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Hewster - hope everything is ok with ya. miss playing ya on the servers

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Yeah I'm ok Bite, thanks for asking :)

Lots of "important" stuff going on in RL ATM,
House moving, work ect, but I'm still here, and
plan on getting 1.6 finished once I'm settled down in my new home

Hewster

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glad to hear hewster...good luck settling in and everything! enjoy your new home!

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I moved a distance of a 3 day train ride away from all my friends and family with the promise of a 15 dollar an hour under the table job that fell through.I brought my Girlfriend with me and promised her Mother everything would be okay.This coming month will be the second we are not going to make rent on time.Each time we have 17 days in which to get caught up else we are kicked out.We eat Mr Noodle daily.I have a job now that requires me to operate a cherry picker 5 stories in the air.I am deathly afraid of hieghts and it makes my daily routine extremely hard.I work in a blast freezer at 40 below zero temperature and i have alergies.I have also lived with severe panic disorder for more than 18 years of my 33 year life.Im not even gonna get into my childhood.You want me to feel bad that you dont have the time to get mine into rotation?I live for this game!!! Get the map in there !!! Before i give BillyBob an AK and point him in a direction you wont like !!! (: :cya:

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only joshing with ya hewster BTW

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:lol: You crack me up Squint!!

You know we could always load up the old 1.2 files and duke it out if someone would set up a sever with old files. Anyone interested???

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heheheh...that almost brought a tear to muh eye squint...if you ever became a televangilist (sp), you'd be rich (and tammi fay would be hot on your heals!)

:lol: :nodding:

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right iv been talking to angel eyes and hes going to try and get the mine map put in to the server the old 1 just so we can all have a different map to play i will let all no when its done or angel eyes will cant wait :D

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well it's in the old pk3 file (if you folks saved your old version) I'm not sure if you can mix that with the 1.5 pk3's so I'll have to ask hew...

if it will work I'll post a link to the old pk3, but I'm thinking it'll get old really fast with it's old setup and the new weapons....

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I already made a PK3 file with all the old mine map stuff, with Queeg's help. It is 17 mb, but has a few clinkers in it, not many, but a few missing textures/shaders I can't seem to resolve.

I did not want to release it just yet until we talked about it. But, with Hewster gone, and you gone, and Queeg gone, it was hard to get hold of anyone.

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Iggy, this is probably common knowledge, but I'm just trying to help...Keep in mind that the name of a shader isn't necessarily the name of the actual image file. It could be just the name in the shader, pointing to a different texture. :)

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Whats this about Queeg gone? Gone where? I notice he's not in the moderators list anymore.


Anyways I'd thought about that with the shaders and I did manage to convert one of the old maps before using the new shaders but how I did it escapes me. I'll have a play about this week and see what I can come up with.

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Thanks Man, I ran into Queeg on my TS last night, and we think it is the shader thing like you said. It is looking for a bunch of kb_smoke stuff in one of the shaders, which I think it uses to draw the torches. It is the bandit campfire and the lower cavern torches that are goofed up.

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I think I found the campfire one when re-mapping the valley. Check what I used.

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Well he is not "gone gone", just working 60 hour weeks and does not have time for much right now.

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psst, queeg's an upper level admin so when we had to crunch (they said we had too many mods) that was a simple change, he has all of my powers and then some :D

(good having friends in high places)

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Siiiiiiiiii......

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I personally would rather you be patient, than releasing the old version of mine,
I intend mine to be released with 1.6.

making 3rd party maps that players won't have unless they download will cause frustration
for newer players.

BTW, if your clever you could make the original mine map work with existing
textures that are avalible in 1.6, and the download could be very small (under 2Mb)

Hewster

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But I am not clever...you are....:naughty:

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tested the pk3 m8, as far as me,skins,bong,hacko,and goony are concerned
no textures missing

i allso compared it with 1.12 (original mine map) and lighting with gl extentions is the same
so if u put vertex lighting on ... u cant see the bandit / cowboy model any more because its too dark , 2nd yet vital in gl_ extention it kinda looks like doom3 (all dark)

ill email the entire team developers/testers with my results