DOW 2 confirmed?
 

Taken from relicnews

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well, well, well, what do we have here. looks like some annoying people from the pcgamer magazine company finally annoyed the dow2 makers to tell them if there is one. well im surprised really to be honest but might not exactly mean that dow2 is coming out. you sure it isnt a refernce to soulstorm?

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doubt it, mainly since soulstorm is out already.

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well its about dang time. I say sometime next year before we hear anything other than its happening. Thanks for letting us know, wraithcat.

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To make the point further - again from relicnews

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thank you wraith! *kneels* now that i know its confirmed, i dont have to be worried about it not comin out

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This is great news as the current game engine as I'm sure you don't need to be told is fairly outdated! Plus I've heard SS wasn't worth the money so hopefully I can wait for dow2

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DOW2.... hope this to be true :)

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Yay! I hope this is worthy of the Warhammer name! I'm not going to buy the new soul storm because i dont think i realy need it, but if this ones good, I'll by it!
Wasn't there one of those anoying fake things from some games magazine that said that you could get sonic and tails for ssbm? I tottaly belived them! (i still cry over what a foo' i was...) I hope this isn't like that...

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jeeeeeeeeezzz I hope this is not a fake/trick its gotten me excited :)

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cool but whats the difference beetwen this and dow whats going to be new races, wepons graphic or game style?

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YESSSSSSSSS.......... o wait this is only a beta so it might be like a year till it really comes out!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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In DOW2 We will have Titans! Nids! Squats! And of course, Space Battles!




... thats just my guess.

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I really hope so that would be sooooo cool. I wonder if it will be pre-heracy ?

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I sure hope it`s not another console W40k game.

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:agreed

as long as the IG stay I'm happy.

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How can it be console related PC-gamer = PC *hinting?*

Sounds great.. though I cant see why they're emphasising a Crimson Fist Marine?

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the only thing i want is nids and deamonhunters thats all

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hmmm... what can i say about this news? TYRANIDS! TYRANIDS! TYRANIDS!
good graphics! daemonhunters! Titans! space! more realism! cool synckills!

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dont be silly pc gamer always tlaks about,stuff it must be that the dow 2 has finally got there attetion. if dow 2 does exist, it want of space battles and titians. it will probally have a new engien and grpahical imporvments.

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and a fully custom army painter where you could paint your entire army custom (ands nids:))

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Well there a few things I know I don't want

metamap
flyers
titans
space

and a couple of other things.

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why not?

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Metamap = there is no real storyline

flyers = They just don't fit the combat type of dow

titans = ahem did you ever check the size and range of those things?

space = and get another shoddy attempt like EoW, no thanks.

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:agreed(I've been using that emoticon a lot lately but whatever)

I think IG need to be included not only because they are my favorite, but they are also by far the most expansive, diverse and abundant force in the 41st mil.

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Why wouldnt they be included?

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they weren't included in the original DoW (even though they were in the campaign)

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Just seen a teaser fo DOW II on utube i think this is the link ?




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Uh yeah.. I only see code, just put in the link?

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sorry just found out its a fake the comming winter 2007 gave it away

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Yeah, but most of the work has been done (Skeletons, animations, voices, models) unless it's a huge change from DOW, all they have to do is give them hi-res textures which take advantage of DX10, maybe replace a few with higher poly models (anyone know what the current poly count for an IG is?) and BAM! 9 races in the first game.

This seems like the most logical approach to DOW2, If you think about THQ wanting to take advantage of the warhammer hype and spend as little time and money on the project as possible.

Then they can focus on Nids and solid game play with nobody whining about balance.

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You really thing people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a model that is based on an engine that's about four years old?

Trust me, textures wouldn't save it by far.

AndI also count among the people that want it to go back to 4 races only. Mainly because I want to see it be competitive.

So let's look at a possible rundown.

Marines - yes - for very simple reasons
CSM - exactly the same as well as a need for an evil side
Nids - people want them too much
One more "good" side. Probably eldar again.

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(coughs) *guard*

either that or a neutral like orks (don't even try to hit me with the orks are evil argument, all they want to do is fight)

Honestly, I find the concept of including the IG completely ridiculous. Just because they don't sell out as much as the SMs doesn't mean that they are any less interesting. As a matter of fact, out of all the W40k races, CSM is by far the least seen in battle. Most high ranking imperial commanders don't even know they exist.

so to me, the only logical patter (if there has to be four races) is:

1.Space Marines (They are the balanced race, they are generic, sold out and attract customers so they have to be in it because all THQ cares about is money.)

2. Trynids. (The close-combat race,))

3. Chaos (the evil race with the most powerful lone units, although few in number, and most of the horde consisting of mostly mutants/heretics)

4. Guard (the shooty race)

and if a 5th is to be added it should be eldar (stealth and speed race)

and the 6th - Necrons (slow and persistent)

and once you get to 7th and 8th you start repeating; you now get another shooty race (tau) and another close combat race (orks)

and thats all that is really important.

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If I had it my way....


DOW2 would be more like Supreme Commander in the sense of scale. And You could only choose a race, not all the little factions of each race the way it is now with the Imperium. So, If you choose the Imperium, then you will start with guardsmen, but around tier 3 you will get an option similar to the Taus, that is you will either build a structure that produces units for either; SM/SOB/DH/OX. Each with their own strengths and weaknesses, so each game with Imperium will be different.

The Next Race will be the Orks. They will get different types of units depending on what banner they fight for. If you Build a burner boys Banner, you get hardcore Flame units that excel at killing infantry. And so on with them...

Third would be Eldar. Only Because I envision DOW2 to center around the next nid invasion, and the four races that I list would all have a part in the story. I would make each Eldar squad a force to be reckoned with, but they would have the lowest pop limit.

Tyranids would be the fourth race, And I see this working will with the story in SP. The Nids would not use the normal resource system, but have a tough unit that collects bodies from the battlefield and brings them back to bioengineer more units and structures.

I would raise the pop limit to about a thousand so that you can have massive wars between orks, IG and Nids. The Eldar would just scream into battle and unleash hell with their few numbers.

This would go as far from the TT as possible. By doing this, no one can ever say that "Its nothing like it is TT" because everyone would laugh and point fingers at you for not knowing that its supposed to be different.

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I agree, i don't want a meta map, though if they could figure out how to get a real story line in with it, then i'm all for it.

Flyers, of dear god, worst thing to ever hit DoW.

Agree with titans,

As for space, shoddy EaW. Someone needs to go play Sins of a Solar Empire. Though a BFG game needs it owns well game.

Couldn't agree more, after me already wetting myslef at the 'announcment' at DoW 2, if it was like SC, i might have my head explode caused by to much awesome.

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The thing is, that wouldn't be a tabletop interpretation anymore. That would be an interpretation of EPIC, which to be honest, I've never really liked.

As for another thing - this singular faction you propose is very strongly against everything in warhammer. It just doesn't work that way there.
You could consider each faction a sovereign state within a union to some extent.


I know orks are not evil, the same as the tyranids, et they do represent the side of Disorder in some way or another.

And I find it ridiculous that you put the guard before eldar, mainly because people don't want to have 3 human factions.

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I wouldn't exactly call Chaos human, honestly, i think Eldar are more human in every aspect then Chaos.

Lets hope Relic gives us another longer, better more kickass than ever CGI opening. cause lets face it, if it doesn't have a jaw dropping CGI movie (Nids vs SM) AND nicds in the game. No ammount of police in the world could stop the nerdrage that would be pouring from every corner of the world.

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I'd have to agree with wraith on the epic scale thing.
SPACE FIGHTING AND AIR UNITS SHOULD BE LEFT OUT OF DOW2!!!!

they just don't have any place in that sort of combat.

The only solution for relic is to have 5+ races to solve the whole race problem.

also another reason why you would need the guard is that if you are going to have nids, a very close combated oriented race, you need a shooty race to balance it (not Tau)

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But Chaos, SM, Eldar all can be very shooty.
But, IG just have no place what so ever in the first 4 races, not even if it was 5 beggining races. If it's 5, just need to add DA ORKS back in.
Though space and air have no place as useable units in the game. And space as i said should have their own game.

I forgot to adress a older post saying that Guard are the most numerous and diverse 'race' in the galaxy. Which is not true; Orks, Nids, and possible necrons out number them. As for diversity, Orks win this agian.

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no. not compared to the guard they're not. maybe compared to orks.

trust me; the guard have far more of a place than the orks in 5 races because the tyranids and orks have relatively same play style... and as for the fluff reasons as to why the IG should be in... (see below)

are you kidding me?

Warhammer 40,000 - Imperial Guard

read the first sentence. (and the rest if you want to know why the guard are important)

not only that, but the IG is in more battles than any other entity. (excluding internal conflicts ie; an ork tribe fighting the same tribe, or the same faction of chaos fighting each other [hammer of demons])

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Yes they have billions of soldiers, possibly trillions. Orks and Nids number more then every human in the Imperium. I mean, hell is all Orks banded together under one flag. Every race in the galaxy outside nids are screwed beyond comprhension.

And nids, if you look around at the fluff some more. If a real Nid fleet, as one described in Xenology arrived. The Imperium would have to up it's military force by 500% just to stand a chance o hold them off for awhile.

And agian, Orks are more diverse. As in our galaxy they are the most numerous by far. That alone has the ability to make them more diverse. i mean the only thing most Orks have in common is they want to fight. Out of the millions/billions of tribes out there, their are going to be alot of different one.

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Don't remind me of Firewarrior. :( Anyways yay I subscribe to PC gamer so lucky for me I guess. Also if this is true then I'm torn in 3 different directions. I'm going to have to choose between DOW2, SC2, or RA3 to occupy my game time. Decisions.

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If they do a Dawn of War two, then they seriously need to think about what they are doing before they get to work on it. In all fairness, we need ONE game, with everything in it, and NO expansions.

SoulStorm only leaves two sides: The Daemon Hunters and Tyranids. If they release DoW2 without them, then they might as well not release the game, as, alike DoW, they are simply going to go on dragging out the entire thing once again, and this will not only annoy fans, but bore them to death.

I can only hope that they take into account how many people are unsatisfied with Soul Storm too.

DoW2, we need the lot. Bikes, Devistator Squads, the four Chaos Gods (somehow), all those missing Eldar squads, one hell of a campaign, and an updated online setup.

If they aren't going to do the lot, then they may as well cancel the entire idea right here, right now.

PS: As a personal preference, I would stick to ground combat. We don't need space combat. If they're going to even think about that, then they should get on with a space-based game instead.

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I'm afraid I'll have to go with RA3. It's a sad call, and I will get all three, but I'll have to stick to my guns with RA3 online, less I be eatten alive by suicidal black eagles and prism raids :uhoh:

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Prism raids won't exists because the soviet leadership went back in time and killed Einestin therefore prism tech don't exists no more. Black eagles might not exists because the timeline of the previous are irrelevant to RA3 because again, Einestine is killed. Anyways back on topic, Tycoon if DOW2 is announced they would probably only give us 4 races and add all the other races via expansion packs.

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well thats to bad

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I agree that there should be 4 races and not 9, puts a sense of classic tradition into the game, and makes bugs/imbalances easier to correct.:nodding:

I'd also agree with the no air and space policy, but do feel there should be more ground troop units, possibly more tanks?

Other than that campaign should be linear and if they take out mah Orky boyz im gunna lose it, sorry ig but sm can fight for the emperor alone, (unless they allow 5 races then your in! yay!:cya:).

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I wouldn't mind a awesome storyline linear all the way up till the last mission. Something happens, now all that's left is to reclaim, destroy, taint, whatever to the planet and then should become a meta campaign. That would be coool.:cool:

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yeah, but in terms of actual fluff, the IG outnumber the SM like 10000/1, so I wonder wich one is going to be doing more fighting.

ah. I mainly want the IG in because I don't really like SMs too much (they are just too much of the generic, ballsy, meat-head heroes)

where as IG is my favorite race. IG=the shit.

But I know that in order for the game to attract customers it needs SMs.

But I don't see why there should be 4 races, because even with 6 (which I think is the prime number) because you can find 6 races with completely unique playing styles.

And I will be pissed if the campaign is not linear.

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More races isn't always better, it sometimes just makes the game unbalanced. IG can't possibly stand up to the Space marines, half of them will just surrender without a commissar.