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The Necrons make my blood boil. Am I the only one who think Necrons are more annoying than anything else? Most of the time they mass wraiths and harass your men. And don't get me fucking started on the Necron Lord . . . well . . you did, and now you have to listen. Whatever race I'm playing, the Necron Lord is a cause of major frustration throughout the game, at least until I surround him with Possessed so he'll die as soon as he gets up. First thing he does, leads a small shock force into your base, kill his men, and he just runs around your base raising Hell. Get the fuck OUTTA my base! Killing workers, pissing off soldiers, forcing my Ranged Units to go into melee . . and the AI has only this playstyle. Let's not forgot another major annoyance, everyone's favorite combination of abilities: Sunbeam, Reality Shift, Scarab Swarm, and Mass Resurrection. He'll teleport in, use sunbeam, attack your workers, while your struggling to summon up a basic militia to put him down for the count. The count being 3 and a half minutes, after he's killed a worker and casts sunbeam, he teleports next to my stronghold, fruitlessly trying to kill it, teleports again, casts sunbeam some more, and when he's about to die, he goes ethereal and runs away. Now you notice the small army of Wraiths and Pariahs assaulting your listening posts. Two minutes later; he's back! Doing the same thing! Is that the Necron's specialty? Annoyance, harassment, and teleportation into your base? |
yes ironic ain't it the supposedly slowest race, is among the fastest :'( |
well if you fed up with dc why not start playing the original again. Trust me you will enjoy yourself |
rememba those guys r SLOOOW AS make sure u use this to ur advantage by bombarding them with artillery to slow em down even more! then let loose with more explosive vehicles 2 hammer em 2 back to the graveyard were they belong! |
yea i hate the necs to. but sometimes the AI is so stupid he goes for my stronghold and while my main army is destroyin there army and 1 SM squad is left with workers and all i do is repair my stronghold. |
I find if you are playing chaos use cultisit armed with grenade launchers and take them off mele combat and switch them to ranged combat can be effective. the knock down effect from the grenade launchers can cause havoc with the necron lord. also a couple of turrets will distract him as welll |
I hate necrons too. I usually face random comps on skirmish mode, and it is nearly always either orks or necrons. Orks i dont mind, but necrons are a nightmare. Even when i play with them, i cant handle their tech-tree because it is so bloody far-fetched and different from all the other races. And they are unbalanced in my opinion. Wraiths and pariahs should have limits and the necron lord should NOT be able to use stealth and revive all of his dead comrades around him. I was playing a long, bloody battle with some crons, and there was masses of dead warriors lying around a crit. location. Then the lord comes in with a whole new wave of warriors, and resurrects all of the dead ones. Then they all come and pwn me because they have 4 times as many men as me. So yes, I hate necrons. :) |
Good thread...=p The only thing that really is anoying for me when I am playing against Necrons is when suckers send a couple of Wraiths in my base,followed by 3 to 4 squads of Necron Warriors and Flayed Ones...my men start shotting at Wraiths who ALWAYS when shot upon go ethereal and they wonder around,my units ares till shooting at Wraiths even they are immortal at that time,meanwhile I got Pariahs sending my units into the space...and I lose.:( |
Fighting the necrons is just annoying and playing with them is MUCH to easy!! I was playing with necrons on doom-chamber agains orcs and won by sending 1 MONOLITH AND 4 DESTROYERS into their base!!!!!(i play on hard) .....cant wait to kick their living-metal-asses with my dark eldar talos MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! |
crons r nothing...i hate the eldar raids now those are a pain in the but |
Arghhh how dare you ...... :smack: |
Want to know what's worse? Two Necron Bases vs. You. |
YAY other people who hate necrons right'o here I go thier first unit, the necron warrior, is WAY too powerful. Anyone who I'm playing as, the necrons just walk up to my units and kick them all in the happy sacks. And also it doesn't cost em a god damn thing to build The Necron Lord THE BIGGEST **** IN THE UNIVERSE Lord 'oh no oh no I'm losing health wat should I do? GAY GREEN LIGHT' Me 'Wait? where did he go' Oh hes turned invisible with 30 necron warriors and killing us all :D then hes bashing away at ur HQ and u think 'phhh he cant do much... oh wait hes turning into the night bringer!' Wraiths Do pretty much the same the necron lord does to me 'oh no oh no I'm losing health, PHASE. MUHAHAA now i shall go to ur base and mildly annoy ur HQ' Pariahs Every swipe reduces ur total health, even buildings :O, and wen u kil one another rebuilds in a matter of 4 seconds, and thier regenaration rate is SOOOO fast. OOOOHHH but wen I'm necrons THEY SUCK I got told that necrons can be overwhelmed really early... try to over whelm 2 squads of necrons and a lord with scouts, guardsmen, cultists or slugga boys. 92% of teens have moved onto rap. If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music, copy and paste this into your signature (I so had to copy that from cronon666 :P, its true) |
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Ah, yes the uber-complicated tech tree. its so hard for you to use, but the AI is an expert with it... And if you want a cheap item for your lord, solar pulse, phylactery and lightning field is the way to go. He blinds your men and then gets them to melee, where he's frikkin invincible due to the phyklactery, and then if you send any rnaged units at him, BAM! killed by lightning strike. Even killing a single listening post will chrage the field enough to kill SM in one hit. And then of course, there's the Destroyers. Just build a pair of Destroyer Lords (since they stun and steal vehicles, all enemy vehicles will be no threat) then just pump out as many normal destroyers as you can, presto instant pwnage Quote:
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But the monolith can belch out 40 flayed ones(5 full squads) out in retaliation to your workers. And produce it's own workers during the battle. And can use the lord to disable all your guns. And summon even more soldiers. And ressurect the rest. You try that stuff with your Force commander or Shas'o. And then the monolith just teleports away. Baneblade vs Monolith, BB wins. Baneblade with support vs Monolith with support, lith wins. |
well yes, i just meant 1v1. but the necs definitely have too many frikkin special abilities |
well necrons are among the strongest races in 1v1, but weakest in larger battles |
You got that right!? And they don't have a decent siege weapon with the exception of the monolith. |
true, but you could just mass heavy destroyers... also, has anyone else noticed that the Pariahs suck? like,a lot? the max health drop is minimal, and they do way too little damage to compete with Assault Terminators, Harlequins, or other melee specialists...but i suppose that's what flayed ones are for Still doesn't make up for their other massive advantages, though. maybe this is a tradition at Relic, since the Zann Consortium in the EaW FoC game is overpowered too... |
Not neccecarrily mass since they gobble up a chunk off the Cap..I only use those guys to escort the monolith. Which is strangely enough highly vurnerable to I.G heavy-weapons team that has a lascannon upgrade. |
i must say that all of you guys are making some sense here and your definitaly proving guys wrong on a old poll on filefront a long time ago. |
What Poll!? I must admit I've been visiting it less nowadays. Too many know-it-alls. |
there was a poll a while ago on dowfiles asking which race is the best. necrons got first and SM got second. |
that figures. wonder where Tau were on the poll. probably 3rd |
be tau they 0wn nercrons. one gunship can kill a monolith while fire warriors take the diddly out of thier lord. |
its not that simple. the lord will just teleport in the middle of ur firewarriors and do a buch of other stuff. plus how does one gunship take down a monolith. it may be strong but holy crap. |
takes three rail gun shots on easy. but on any difficulty or against humans, one gunship would definitely kick a monolith's ass. Just run away to max range as it approches, you'd never get hit. |
lol is that what ppl mean when ppl say its how u use them. run and gun :) |
Yes basically The Tau is a run and gun race.(Their suckiness at mellee is proof of this) The crons on the oher hand are the slow one's but are the Anti-turtle race of D.C It is not wise to turtle againt's a cron opponent. The longer they stay in-game the harder it gets to defeat them.. |
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I disagree, me and my friends in a comp-stomp against crons on hard and after a half-hour stand-off in a small space but when my friend snook out there base was empty. |
that's really more of an AI thing, not necessarily related to race abilities... |
I guess you have to rely on their ability to take the bullets seeing as they aren't really known for large armies, seeing as basic troops are 3 squad cap which, allowing other units i.e. pariahs, immortals, flayed ones, wraiths, you can't get a large army but with a normal sized force you can stand for quite a while. |
Haha, I agree that this guy can be annoying (the Necron Lord that is). I do not like the idea that he comes back at the point of his 'death'. He should be made to come out of the Monolith again, but I can't see that happening to be honest. |
Yeah it's kinda inconsistent for two types of Necrons to come back where they died (Lord and Tomb Spyders) while none of the rest do. |
yeah, but they are spawned from the ground by your base. And not spawned from the monolith. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. that is ture |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. Just put a darned minefield on his head. That way, there's almost no way he get's to run away, or revive anything. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. Why not build a building on top of him instead? But on second thought maybe a minefield is better. But aren't the commander types immune to knockback? |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. all units have knockback abiliies i think. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. No, commander types are not immune to knockback What defines your resistance to it, is weight. And laughably, the unit with the most weight are fire dragons, thus they can stop a squigoth if it charges them. And you can't build a building directly on him. The minefield is an exception. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. If the lord dies in your base just have a squad or 2 keep watch over him |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. or just keep your army there or relocate your base etc,and put turrets where if u were him ud teleport |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. thats only if your eldar cause if your not its not that easy. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. or just hide a builder somewhere inconspicous |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. sorry to tell you But you just normally don't have the money to waste a) two squads to watch over a body. b) another entire base. You actually harder ever research relocations as eldat. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. i think A works the best. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. I don't know your skill level but seriously comp necrons not that hard to take down even on insane. Orks over power, SM out plazma, IG out man, Eldar out move, and Tau out gun All races have a strength they can use to exploit an enemy weakness so stop please with the whining about the necron lord seriously he is not that hard to face turret spam when he is dead and when he first jumps over just get a quick close range attacker to face him Really necrons are not that hard!!!! ps: this is how long it takes me to take down a necron on insane with the races i use sm 7 mins use lots of plazma ig 10 min build lots of men the move in with sentinentals tau 8 mins or 5 mins depends either fire warrior spam then move in with harvenger or spam lots and lots of stealth suits |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. well i personally dont like to spam units so all those options are out for me. when you spam then its not that fun. no tactics. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. ROFL this is gold i recon, i agree though 100%. Necron lord always camps in my base and does exactly what op said. When he revives hes in my base so it happens constantly. But the worst thing? when you almost kill the him and he transforms into the immortal god Night bringer who cannot i mean cannot die. Ive had him down to 100 health then he turns and with one hit gets a ton of hp back, Even with 50+ chaos space marines , many many rocket turrets , rhino , chaos sorc, the bloodthirster and Daemon Prince he still WOULDNT DIE. So then after a bit he reverts to normal form and eventually dies. Only to do it again 10 mins later. ** and oh yes my blood thirster actually died in that fight. Couldn't bielive such a powerful being with so many units to support could lose pissed me off. |
Re: The Necrons make my blood boil. yea but the ai can be stupid. i think i said this earlier in the thread but i cant remember nor do i want to check. i was once playing as the SM and the lord got into my base. he then turned to the nightbringer and started attacking my hq. i just repaired it and once he turned back he still attacked it and a SM squad killed him. |
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