im the greatest peroson...just kidding.....
But in anycase Lets just say what if it was confrimed for a dow2 (diffrent name of corse, what would you want changed in it from the previous 1?

if there was a dow2 what would you want in it diffrent from our current 1, air abttles, more vocaus on econmy, better story, more units, destroyible..everything...i want to hear you

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Well this is gonna be big. For starters I would make it so there would be all the teams even if this is damned hard allthough most of life is so...Anyway's all the teams, make it codexy' like forestorm over Khronus mod is doing and have all the units and have like many other features but here is just one of them, where you can play as a hero/character from 40k but in 3rd person and you control him when he gets enough points or something. It would be cool. And theres many other things but I can't be asked to go on yet.
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Space fighting is most likely not probable, but I wouldn't rule it out because Relic is well known for their Homeworld games and could incorporate it pretty well. I believe that DoW2 is just going to explore more from when DoW left off with the demon being released by Gabriel, it's obviously going to have a new engine, most likely tyranids will make an appearance if not a whole race in general, (on a side note I hope they make the Grey Knights their own race but it'd probably suffer immensly from balancing issues in comparison with the space marines), they will also add new units to each race like they have been doing thus far, that's pretty much it I think unless they totally surprise everyone with something big like in depth campaigns for each race? =)

3rd person control over a hero would be horrible, trust me, stick with Mark of Chaos if you want something like that. It'd make it too RPGish and thats not really what Dawn of War is all about.

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^Agreed

As for the changes maybe a formation button with pre fromations won't be too much to ask. and A true day and night cycle would top it off that's all I can think of for now..

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DoW2 for me I would figure they'd overhaul the grafic engine, then make the game after what happen on Kronos that is if you'd played then ew warhammer game. I personally would love to see the Dark Eldar or tyranids. I would make a better story line not like the story suck in DC but the narrorator sounded like he was going to choke on his own excitment when he was reading. I wouldn't wanna see air units (unless it was very well put together). For me it's all about the story and game balance.

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The DoW Engines can't support a Tyranid Race.. But maybe DoW 2 Will... when it comes in a quote of 7 years.

-Vendre

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Maybe so, but a day and night would be very cool and extra fromations could add some fun. Good thinking!

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Well i would like to see destructible terran. Not just some of it but all of it. It would be awsome in a city fight.

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Yeah destructable terrain would be pretty legend, and a day and night cycle which somebody allready mentioned and extra formations like ragged or boxed or something?

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I'd like to see the essence engine used.
Also I hope that they get back to 4 races.
I like the size of things as it is now, but I would like to see commanders a bit more scalable and utilisable in all the tiers.

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in DOW 2 i would like
Dark eldar
land speeders flying like they should
better engine
a more tactical based game needing high micro and macro

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Well I suppose we won't know anything until E3, hopefully.

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I personally would like to see a differant group of imperial guard other than cadians, they are to common. I want to see Krieg Death Korps or some other regiment that looks like WWI or WW2 soldiers. Thats how i have always pictured the guard.

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^ There are two mod teams that are hard at work to satisfy your urges the steel legion and the death korps of krieg mod teams. I suggest you wait they are quite good. And steel legion is available for winter assault, If you have dowwa why wait???

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I want The DoWDC engine but just add HOMEWORLD ENGINE so there will be space battles (heaven!!!) and ls. add all tabletop units and all races in games workshop (i'm already begging them)PLZ!!!!

A Krieg Mod! Finally my dream realized! Do you know when it will be out?

A Homeworld Engine would be awsome!

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They won't be using the dow engine it is more likely that theyre gonna use the coh engine much better in my book anyway and they won't put any space battles co'z it will hurt their homeworld franchise in the first place.And furthermore too much multi-tasking in an rts game takes a whole lot of the fun out of it..btw about the release of the mod sorry I don't know.

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Tyranids. new Eldar Wraithlord. Essence engine(the one Company of heroes uses).

And i though E3 didn't exist anymore.

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It does just not in the same way it always was

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Well there are alot of things i would like to see like more tactical game play and more units for the armies but the thing i want to see most is better game physics. For example if a unit gets in the way of bullets it will take damage and bullets dont go through buildings ect.Also if if the game was on a slightly bigger scale so there were bigger maps and more units it would be fun and make transport units useful.

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Now this may sound a little odd but just imagine it for a minute. The total war engine. You do the resource management and base building and all that on another screen, and than the battles will have thousands of men in the, cities, jungles, plains, deserets, ect. you could have massive trench battles with thousands of men charging bolter emplacemets, and pill boxes! you could get like 20 artillery peices and tons of tanks! It would be awsome! It would focus less on squad and company size battles, to battalions, regiments, and divisions! Except for the marines, loyalist and chaos, they would have to fight still with less the 1000 men, but the chaos could get hordes of cultists.

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Nah I wreckon it would be pretty crap if it were like the Total War Games it just wouldn't be Dawn Of War and the graphics would have to be worse for a lot of peoples computers to run and the squad based tactics would be removed, and that is one of the best parts about the game, plus it would be hard to upgrade all your heavyweapons and crap. Plus you couldn't reinforce you men back to the squads.

Even though Total War Games are amazing, not quite as good as Dawn Of war though. :p

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You might be right, but its still cool to imagine a game where you get to see thousands of guradsmen, preferably Krieg Death korps, charging a no mans land, filled with corpses and barbed wire with tons of bombs going off everywhere, a hail of bolter fire cutting them down as they go, and ending in a bloody hand to hand confrontation in the enemy trench.

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You both know that the coh essence engine is capable of producing mass numbers of unit's and uhmm about the total war engine that would just be costly because they would have to liscense it from another gaming company you two don't worry if anything the essence engine will kick a** just imagine destroyable buildings real 3d interactive objects i.e stairs, ground,poles,trees. Map makers are gonna have a field day with this.(if an editor does come out)

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OK, I'm never gonna' worry lol. :)
I supose it would be good to see lots of people charging whilst being blown sky high by mines. But anyway I think they should have the campaign where you have to take over all pieces of land to win but also they should have a few 'storylined' campaigns cause that was pretty cool.

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I would like to see more death anims for each kind of attack, and i might like a destructible environment

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If I was making the next game it would be something like this

DAWN OF WAR 2: The Tyranid Wars

Would have a random map generator.
Would have a integrated Map Maker.
Would have the option to have larger maps.
Garrisonable Buildings(like C&C)
Scripted Single Player Map Options(like ork invasion, defend the town, etc.).
Destroyable terrian.
New map types like starship, asteroid, and hulk(would have unit restrictions)
TYRANIDS(like the mod for DC but better).
BLOOD PACK(Imperium gets 2, why not chaos?).
Air Units(Would come in three types, Controllable transport, Airstrike, and controllable air unit that would leave when timer ran out or destroyed).
Better Turrents and buildable bunkers(tougher but more expensive).
More Units(SM Bikes, Chaos termies, etc.)
TITANS(Not to scale but big and scary, max one, staggeringly expensive)
LONG camps with tons of cutscenes and cool scripted missions but with risk like maps (think DC) but on a larger scale with multiple planets.
Have the option to play risk like conquer the planet, then the galaxy for MP with saves(like Empires at War and Rise of Nations II).
Players havingthe ability to modify each and every unit like Mark of Chaos and choose their weapons and abilities, Like the way you could choose your upgrades for the SM Predator in the first DoW.
Make Vehicles stay destroyed on the battlefield like infantry units.
Allow players to select the amount of resource stratigic points give, build times, and other game attributes so they can customize their maps to a greater extent(like Rise of Nations II).

Lastly I want the option to create my own campaigns. A nice built in very simple campaign builder that allows me to create my own conquer the galaxy map and put the maps I want to represent each territory, as well as write the story and choose the unit bonuses and perks each territory gives.

Will we get a game like this? Maybe. If we can get a game like Oblivion we can get a game like this, just hope they don't give us a game with mildly improved graphics, a few new units, a crappy cutscene, and charge 49.99 for it.:nodding:

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This is not quite dawn of war 2, but, a call of duty style warhammer 40,000 game would be awsome!

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Better AI because now it sometimes sucks getting a larger force through tight spots like city streets.

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LordTurin you've really thought about this lol some excellant ideas. ;)

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I really do not think larger maps are required, since the really big maps even now are more or less very underused, plainly because they are just too big.

Also you can create these new terrains syou speak off
Blood pack--why would you need a copy of the imperial guard, that's even more of a copy than csm to smurfs.

Make Vehicles stay destroyed on the battlefield like infantry units.

and this would also prove problematic, since vehicles would have to block terrain to make it look nice and well it would just clog.



Me I'm really looking forward to the essence engine.

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The current DoW doesn't really need huge maps but when you throw in aircraft, larger armies, and titans you'll need the extra space just so you don't get clogged. And yes I forgot AI, can't have your legions getting stuck on a tree and get to shot to death by a single IG heaby weapons team. :(

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I think the ultimate dow would be a more custumizable races much like the tau, you can make choices on which units to make, but not all.

you could have the chaos follow different gods such as khorne or nurgle

eldar could go to the light side or become dark eldar

imperial guards could stay the same or change into different legions

space marines could change to different chapters

all this could be accomplished by incorparating a series of tech tree
modifications; building a different set of buildings. Tyranids would have to be in there as well as including air for support roles such as dropships, bombers, fighters for air defense; but that is all. Larger maps would be needed as said before if all this was incorparated especially with the air and the scale of tyranid armies.

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Customization would be cool. Like in the tabletop every chapter has it's own playing style and unit lists so DoW2 should have more personal customization.
Also before starting a skirmish or a multiplayer game should be and option to make army lists of avalible units to build, i.e. no Tier 3 untis or Terminators etc.
Cutomizable heroes like in Warcraft 3 would be nice, like besides upgrades heroes get to use their powers by gaining experience.

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^ I think they already attempted that with firewarrior and utterly failed..
wonder why??

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I think that with fire warrior they were going more for an 'unreal' style game. But Fire warrior wasnt a good game they didnt spend a lot of time on developing it either, i think I read somewhere that fire warrior was played off of another engine. Im not sure if thats true, it wouldnt surprise though. But if they were to try agian using all the latest equipment, developing the best graphics, basically coming out with a revolutionary new system, like they did with Dawn of war, they would make a fantastic game.

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Actually reinhardt most of the zines that rated firewarrior labeled it"quake in 40k garb" And I think I know now why It utterly bombed:
1. Nobody wanted to play as a tau in the first place
2. The game engine was quite good its the setting that made it look boring, Imperial planets seem to have one or only two base color : dab brown.grey or some amalgamation of these more planets to wander of to might have made it more interesting.
3. I don't think It was squad based enough requiring you to have good fps skills.
3. And the Tau are just a boring race they are Upstarts In the 40k universe nothing to loose everything to gain..Boooring!!!
4. And Cmon It wouldv'e been better If you started out as a conscript rising to the ranks of kasykin sargeant.
5. The missions where run of the mill missions done to death in fps games before