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>Omen< March 1st, 2010 12:40 PM

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How could ANY TN be better than a CRT, unless it's a pretty crappy CRT you're comparing it to. CRTs have some tradeoffs yes, but not in image quality for the most part, unless you're talking fairly high end LCDs vs mere TNs.

@ikyojo,
TN screens are the same from one to another, all Twisted Nematic, but the PVA and IPS screens differ from them considerably. Most TVs use an SPVA screen, with vertically aligned liquid crystals. Some use IPS, with their crystals aligned in plane to one another.

Aside from the crystal structure itself, PVA and IPS screens differ from TN in color processing, where they have 8 bit depth vs 6 bit. IPS panels also have two transistors per pixel. PVA and IPS panels also have noticeably wider viewing angles, but only IPS offers wide angle viewing with no color shifting.

The LED backlighting CAN make a considerable difference in some ways. It's a brighter, purer light that makes images more vivid with little to no ill effect on color quality since it's pure white. It's very directional in it's output though, making it hard to use for edge positioning without uneven back lighting, even on smaller 32" screens.

Junk angel March 1st, 2010 12:58 PM

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It's gotta be better than a CRT though, or at least our LCD looks a lot better than any CRT I've ever seen.
Crt's are actually pretty good when it comes to visual work. At least the last generation of them, that were usually ultra flat and didn't have the thing that plagued crt's the most - bending.

Otherwise colour crispness, edge definition and contrast on CRT's is pretty awesome.

ikyojo March 1st, 2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by >Omen< (Post 5256122)
@ikyojo,
TN screens are the same from one to another, all Twisted Nematic, but the PVA and IPS screens differ from them considerably. Most TVs use an SPVA screen, with vertically aligned liquid crystals. Some use IPS, with their crystals aligned in plane to one another.

Aside from the crystal structure itself, PVA and IPS screens differ from TN in color processing, where they have 8 bit depth vs 6 bit. IPS panels also have two transistors per pixel. PVA and IPS panels also have noticeably wider viewing angles, but only IPS offers wide angle viewing with no color shifting.

The LED backlighting CAN make a considerable difference in some ways. It's a brighter, purer light that makes images more vivid with little to no ill effect on color quality since it's pure white. It's very directional in it's output though, making it hard to use for edge positioning without uneven back lighting, even on smaller 32" screens.

Thanks omen just what i wanted to know considering we are in the market for a new tv:)

Crumbs March 1st, 2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kow_ciller (Post 5256074)
TN panel for photo work = failz.

TN panels are fail, period. I had one for a day and it looked absolutely atrocious.

kow_ciller March 1st, 2010 03:57 PM

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I wouldn't say they're fail.
just not up to the task for photo work.

*The.Doctor March 1st, 2010 07:50 PM

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It's gotta be better than a CRT though, or at least our LCD looks a lot better than any CRT I've ever seen.
I have to agree for the most part. The only CRTs than i ever really liked compared to a LCD are the flat screen ones that junk angel mentioned. We had a couple at school which were fairly large in size (19-20" or somewhere like that) running at 1600x1200 and they looked beautiful.

>Omen< March 1st, 2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by *The.Doctor (Post 5256513)
The only CRTs than i ever really liked compared to a LCD are the flat screen ones that junk angel mentioned.

LOL, now it's becoming clear why some rave about even TNs over CRTs. When LCDs started taking over, most CRTs HAD gone to the flat screen tubes. You'd have to be seriously living in the past to think of the old curved CRTs when comparing them to LCDs.

And to anyone thinking I'm still living in the past using a CRT monitor, I'll take my Trinitron flat screen Dell over a cheap TN any day of the week.

*The.Doctor March 1st, 2010 09:40 PM

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When LCDs started taking over, most CRTs HAD gone to the flat screen tubes. You'd have to be seriously living in the past to think of the old curved CRTs when comparing them to LCDs.
Well, that's all i had before i got my first LCD. And at the time, it was a improvement. Most of my stuff was old or second hand equipment until a couple years ago, i wasn't able to just go out and get a nice flat screen CRT. The newest CRT i had (which has since died) was made in '03.

I don't think i could go back to a little LCD anyways though after using my 32" LCD HDTV as my monitor for almost a year now.

Superfluous Curmudgeon March 1st, 2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by >Omen< (Post 5256552)
LOL, now it's becoming clear why some rave about even TNs over CRTs. When LCDs started taking over, most CRTs HAD gone to the flat screen tubes. You'd have to be seriously living in the past to think of the old curved CRTs when comparing them to LCDs.

And to anyone thinking I'm still living in the past using a CRT monitor, I'll take my Trinitron flat screen Dell over a cheap TN any day of the week.

Heh, my experience with CRTs has been with the old ones. I once had a new CRT... 5+ years ago. Next, I got a 24" Dell Trinitron monitor, which was getting very old, and had an absolutely hideous picture, so I eventually ended up 'upgrading' again to a possibly older monitor, which has a much better picture, but it is starting to degrade a bit.


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