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Mastershroom February 26th, 2010 11:51 PM

Re: GeForce 8400 GS
 
Usually a Google search of your motherboard model and "quad core support" will bring up some info on the matter.

PANIC98 February 27th, 2010 08:24 AM

Re: GeForce 8400 GS
 
Can anyone find one of these cheap
Pentium 4 3.2GHz SL7PW 1M/800MHz Socket 775 P4 CPU

Mastershroom February 27th, 2010 10:40 AM

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Moving from a Celeron to a Pentium 4 isn't exactly the most cost-effective upgrade. Did you find out if your motherboard supports Core 2 Duos or Quads?

PANIC98 February 27th, 2010 11:07 AM

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Yes its an Nvidia 7050/630I Motherboard but requires an bios update which i cant do because my computer doesnt have a floppy drive.

Von II February 27th, 2010 11:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PANIC98 (Post 5254242)
Can anyone find one of these cheap
Pentium 4 3.2GHz SL7PW 1M/800MHz Socket 775 P4 CPU

I have the 3.4Ghz of that chip right here.

Mr. Pedantic February 27th, 2010 11:32 AM

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You don't need a floppy. As far as I know you can update through USB, and many motherboard manufacturers offer an automatic update method which doesn't require a floppy. In any case, you can just borrow a USB floppy drive off someone.

Mastershroom February 27th, 2010 11:48 AM

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^Indeed. In the past 5 years, I have not seen a single motherboard BIOS that couldn't be flashed either via USB or through an executable in Windows.

Bubbleteatroopa February 27th, 2010 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zamamee (Post 5254463)
^Indeed. In the past 5 years, I have not seen a single motherboard BIOS that couldn't be flashed either via USB or through an executable in Windows.


lolz. Floppy disks were crap in the 90s hahahaha! Yeah, Zamamee is right bout that above:nodding:

PANIC98 February 27th, 2010 04:51 PM

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KK let me rephrase this so I can get it right.
What is the best cpu for under $175.

Von II February 28th, 2010 01:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by panic98 (Post 5254819)
kk let me rephrase this so i can get it right.
What is the best cpu for under $175.

lga775?

PANIC98 February 28th, 2010 04:32 AM

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Yes

Von II February 28th, 2010 04:39 AM

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A e8400 or q6600.

PANIC98 February 28th, 2010 04:41 AM

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Not bad
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

*Daedalus February 28th, 2010 04:45 AM

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That's probably the best non-hyper threaded dual core CPU you're going to get. "Not bad" is a bit of an understatement. If you're looking at that though, you should also look at the Q6600. It's a quad core, and will easily clock the the same speeds as the E8400. Most have theirs at at least 3.2GHz 24/7.

PANIC98 February 28th, 2010 04:53 AM

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Im going with the E8400.
I need a 3.0 and im certain i have the money for it.
Its also one of the best none dual core ive seen in a while.

Von II February 28th, 2010 04:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Daedalus (Post 5255071)
It's a quad core, and will easily clock the the same speeds as the E8400. Most have theirs at at least 3.2GHz 24/7.

phail.

*Daedalus February 28th, 2010 05:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by noobst3R (Post 5255075)
phail.

As... informative as that was, mind elaborating?

PANIC98 February 28th, 2010 05:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Daedalus (Post 5255089)
As... informative as that was, mind elaborating?

Yup Noobster no offense but he's trying to help me upgrade my computer.
I NEED ALL THE HELP I CAN GET

Von II February 28th, 2010 10:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Daedalus (Post 5255089)
As... informative as that was, mind elaborating?

A q6600 does not get the same speed as an e8400. And q6600 daily clocks go from 3.0-3.6hgz, so it's impossible to say.

Sgt. D. Pilla February 28th, 2010 01:25 PM

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Quote:

A q6600 does not get the same speed as an e8400. And q6600 daily clocks go from 3.0-3.6hgz, so it's impossible to say.
Annd?? A lot of E8400s, mostly the newer binned ones, reach 3.6 - 3.8GHz with a tiny vcore boost...
Im missing your point...the Q6600 reachs 3.6Ghz as well with a bit of vcore boost...They can both be overclocked as easily as each other without much effort...

Von II February 28th, 2010 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt. D. Pilla (Post 5255439)
Annd?? A lot of E8400s, mostly the newer binned ones, reach 3.6 - 3.8GHz with a tiny vcore boost...
Im missing your point...the Q6600 reachs 3.6Ghz as well with a bit of vcore boost...They can both be overclocked as easily as each other without much effort...

I was meaning +4.2Ghz on the e8400. And you need to get an early lucky q6600 if you want high speeds. (3.5-3.8Ghz)

PANIC98 March 1st, 2010 01:52 PM

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Any other details

*Daedalus March 1st, 2010 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by noobst3R (Post 5255444)
And you need to get an early lucky q6600 if you want high speeds. (3.5-3.8Ghz)

No you don't. Virtually any G0 6600 will get 3.6.

*The.Doctor March 1st, 2010 07:59 PM

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Quote:

A q6600 does not get the same speed as an e8400. And q6600 daily clocks go from 3.0-3.6hgz, so it's impossible to say.
That's not really a fair comparison though. Your talking about a newer 45nm dual core compared to a older 65nm quad core. The Q6600 is a good OC'er, it just requires more volts than a 45nm chip to hit high speeds. Most people i see with Q6600s have them around 3.4-3.6Ghz 24/7, which is still pretty good considering your not going to notice the difference between 3.6 and 4.0 unless your looking at benchmark scores or running a SLI / CF setup.

You also have to consider that its a quad core, which means it will actually be better than a higher clocked dual core in apps and games that have good multi-core support, and it will multi-task better. Even in games that are not well optimized for multi-core CPU's you can see a little boost. I benchmarked my own system after i got my quad (X3350 aka Q9450) clocked at 3.70Ghz against my E3110 aka E8400 @ 4.3Ghz and guess what, the quad produced better minimum framerates in everything despite being clocked 600Mhz slower.

kow_ciller March 1st, 2010 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *The.Doctor (Post 5256516)
That's not really a fair comparison though. Your talking about a newer 45nm dual core compared to a older 65nm quad core. The Q6600 is a good OC'er, it just requires more volts than a 45nm chip to hit high speeds. Most people i see with Q6600s have them around 3.4-3.6Ghz 24/7, which is still pretty good considering your not going to notice the difference between 3.6 and 4.0 unless your looking at benchmark scores or running a SLI / CF setup.

You also have to consider that its a quad core, which means it will actually be better than a higher clocked dual core in apps and games that have good multi-core support, and it will multi-task better. Even in games that are not well optimized for multi-core CPU's you can see a little boost. I benchmarked my own system after i got my quad (X3350 aka Q9450) clocked at 3.70Ghz against my E3110 aka E8400 @ 4.3Ghz and guess what, the quad produced better minimum framerates in everything despite being clocked 600Mhz slower.

Which very well could be due to having 12mb of cache compared with 6mb of cache on the e8400.

Superfluous Curmudgeon March 1st, 2010 08:33 PM

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I think before going on about which has the best performance after OC'ing, we should take a step back and ask whether Panic is going to want to overclock. Something tells me that he probably won't want to take the long hours and spend the extra $30-$80 to improve his heatsink and airflow which will allow the overclock to be achieved. I could be wrong, but it's something that must be considered.

PANIC98 March 2nd, 2010 05:16 AM

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I might not start overclocking in the recent future.
It might come up if I want the extra speed but im looking for the fastest without overclocking at the moment.

Sgt. D. Pilla March 2nd, 2010 05:38 AM

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IMO, E8400.
But thats pure bias, I've never used, or seen the Q6600 in action.

kow_ciller March 2nd, 2010 08:23 AM

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Fastest w/o overclocking has to be e8600. But you'd pay a pretty penny for one.

PANIC98 March 4th, 2010 07:54 AM

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Im gonna upgrade my cpu first so that if any better deals for graphics cards come along i will not be screwed.

Von II March 4th, 2010 08:35 AM

Re: GeForce 8400 GS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *The.Doctor (Post 5256516)
That's not really a fair comparison though. Your talking about a newer 45nm dual core compared to a older 65nm quad core. The Q6600 is a good OC'er, it just requires more volts than a 45nm chip to hit high speeds. Most people i see with Q6600s have them around 3.4-3.6Ghz 24/7, which is still pretty good considering your not going to notice the difference between 3.6 and 4.0 unless your looking at benchmark scores or running a SLI / CF setup.

You also have to consider that its a quad core, which means it will actually be better than a higher clocked dual core in apps and games that have good multi-core support, and it will multi-task better. Even in games that are not well optimized for multi-core CPU's you can see a little boost. I benchmarked my own system after i got my quad (X3350 aka Q9450) clocked at 3.70Ghz against my E3110 aka E8400 @ 4.3Ghz and guess what, the quad produced better minimum framerates in everything despite being clocked 600Mhz slower.

Did i ever say it was a fair comparison? He said they have equal speeds. I said they don't. What are you talking to me for?

PANIC98 March 9th, 2010 03:07 PM

Re: GeForce 8400 GS
 
Will a socket 478 processor work in an LGA775 socket.

Sgt. D. Pilla March 9th, 2010 03:08 PM

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no.


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