Went for the 5770 anyway.
 

I cancelled my 5850, I've been waiting nearly 5 months. With the 5830 delayed again, I bought a XFX 5770 XT, it's lightly overclocked. And with a free copy of Battleforge :)

I hope I can post a few benchmarks of it when I've got it installed.

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Battleforge is already free =p

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Post pics when you get it.

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Lolwut?

BattleForge on Steam

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Awesome. Get a second one sometime. :D

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lolwut?
EA BattleForge

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Wtf? Why would they let people just download their game for free? :confused:

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(new PSU, CF mobo...)

sry for double, I couldn't delete previous post

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You can merge them. Just use the edit button :)

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Is the 5850 stock really that bad over in the Netherlands? Newegg got them back in a good while ago and prices have slowly been dropping on them. I would try and sell off that 5770 and go for a 5850 whenever you get the chance, unless you find it good enough for whatever games you play. The 5770 is about the same as a stock 4870 so its still got some power, my 4870 is still powering along pretty nicely through most games. See if you can get a decent OC out of it.

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There is one huge load in one shop once a day, but when I check an hour later, they're all sold out. Only XFX has the 5870 available atm.

And I play at 1440x900 or 1680x1050 on a 20' screen, so a 5770 wil do just fine. I will probably OC it if the temps aren't too high, and I still can't optimal airflow in the CM 690.

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Yeah you should be fine with 1680x1050 then. I play at 1920x1080 and my 4870 is still doing good, though it starts to skip a little on some new titles with max settings.

What is your case fan setup like?

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The blue one still at the front (suck in, though at very low fan speed), one at the back (blow out), and the one on the side panel is placed at the top, to suck in fresh air for the CPU cooler. But if I put the top fan at the floor of the case to blow the GPU's hot air up, I blow it straight into the CPU cooler, so I was wondering if it would be smart to let it blow the hot air through the floor?

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You'd probably want to do the opposite, since heat technically rises; put the top fan blowing out, since that's where a lot of hot air would be, and the bottom fan blowing in, since that's where a lot of cool air should be.

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But isn't the bottom fan blowing the hot air back against the GPU? And it also blows the hot air towards the CPU cooler.

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You want the third fan at the top blowing out, or at the bottom blowing in.

As for the GPU heat, if it's got the shroud, then all the heat goes out the case through the shroud anyway.

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Here's what the card looks like:

Xfx Radeon Hd 5770 Xt Grafi :: Azerty

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Yeah, together with a quad, the 4870 is still a great card.
I hate single slot cards. Especially the ones that in fact block the second slot, but do not blow out the case.

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Good for you deciding to go with a less powerful card that suits your needs, rather than grabbing (or trying to grab) a 5850/5870.
You know, that's great and all, but what's your point? For the price/performance range the 5770 with it's "single slot" (You see that bracket? Not single slot, nor do I think it's touting to be single slot.) is a great deal, considering you can crossfire them and still do eyefinity if you so desire.

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No, it's not single slot. But by single slot he means 'not dual-slot', or more specifically, not dual-slot all along the card's length, with the second slot perforated to allow hot air to escape from the heatsink. To be honest, it would have been much more preferable for the case's thermals to have gotten a card like this:

http://www.techmagnews.com/wp-conten...hics_Cards.jpg

These keep the hot air inside the shroud all the way until it gets exhausted out of the back of the case. Of course, the back of the GPU heats up the air on top of it which then drifts up to the chipset and CPU, but that's what you have case airflow for.

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My point is, it's not blowing air out of the case like that.
Yeah :nodding:

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But the XT version has the 5750 cooler desing, so the hot air just flows through the entire case.


Anyway, I got it today! Despite I came home from school early today with a huge headache, I could play Unreal Tournament 3 for 15 minutes, and wtf. I thought it looked great on medium setting with the 4650, but now things are getting seriously beautiful.

Oh, and Assassins Creed (1) came with it instead of BattleForge. Shit.

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...Err.. welcome to 2007! :p

I hope you have lots of fun with it! :)

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That's great! You can still download Battleforge, right? :D

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'Instead of', so no, BattleForge is gone, and AC came with it instead.

And noobst3R, I had to skip all those wonderful games for 6 (!) years, so don't be too surprised I haven't played them yet. ;)

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battleforge is free >.>

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Ah, yes. You're like me. We both have a lot of catching up to do. :p

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Just as i did half a year ago. I had my 360 already though.

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But I still have to buy extra cards on it to use. The copy that should've came with the 5770 had three full decks and 3000 BattleForge points.

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Switch the top fan to bring air in. Have only one air escape in your case at the rear. All other fans bring air in or else you weaken the airflow. :)

For example, I'm using the Altec 300 (Newegg.com - Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases) and I have 5 120mm fans in total. Two bringing in air from the front, one bringing in air from the top, one bringing in air from the side and one pulling the air through the back. My video card (4890) has rear exhaust outside of the case. Nice clean airflow.

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Because of the way heat rises, I'm not sure if it would be worth it to have the top fan blowing in.

I have no idea when I'm gonna upgrade to be able to start 'catching up'...

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Either way, if not having the graphics card exhaust its heat outside the case is a big issue, you need a better case. :p


/overkill mountainmods case ftw.

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That would actually make airflow worse. I have the Antec 300 as well and i have 2x 120mm front intakes, 1x 120mm rear exhaust, and 1x 140mm top exhaust. Also, using the side panel fan can actually makes your temps worse because it can disrupt the airflow.

You want something like this:


As long as you have good airflow its not. I have a Thermalright HR-03GT on my 4870 which dumps all the heat inside the case and its no problem.

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The case came with the rear and top fan already installed and the top fan was installed bringing air into the case. I believe it was designed to bring cool air in for the CPU as it's right on top of it.

Here is a picture of the inside of my case so you can get an idea of how well that would actually work (considering how close they are):



I've yet to have any heating issues (knock on wood :p) so I'll keep it as it is, but I see your point about the airflow and hot air does rise. I was researching this after my first post as well, but again I believe the the job of the top fan is to bring in cool air for the CPU.

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... LOL

The fan is blowing out on the top.
And its to blow hot air away from the CPU, cool air wouldn't be on top of the case since it would simply be hot air from the back of the case recirculating to the top.

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Laugh all you want, cupcake, I'm telling you how it is and how the fan was installed by the manufacture. Same with the fan on the CPU heat sink which is blowing cold air onto the heat sink to cool it (considering it's job is to take the heat away from the CPU) , thus also using the cool air from the top fan which is blowing in. The CPU fan on top of the heat sink is also set by the manufacture (following Intel's instructions for setup) so I guess both Intel and Antec are wrong? This is of course what you're saying, correct?

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Ugh... the point you seem to be missing here, "Giz", is that there is no cool air at the top of your case. Funny as you might think, we're all well aware the a heatsink's job is to remove heat from components, and, yes, we are also aware that the fan is pretty damn close to your heatsink, but having it blow hot air into your case would be a pretty stupid idea.

I'd be sort of like saying you're going to drive to your grandmother's in reverse because you car can get up to, I dunno, fifty, in reverse - let's say for arguement's sake that most cars can only do thirty. That's all well and good, and more power to you, but the fact of the matter is that any car out there can still do eighty easy in the right direction. ;)

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I just double checked and the fan on the top of my case is indeed pushing air out of the case. It's set to speed 1 (out of 3) so I didn't really notice until I opened up the case and looked. Chalk it up to retardedness on my end but the other way does make sense in my mind, even if it isn't practical. :p

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I got the top fan blowing out and the bottom fan sucking in now, seems to be quite good. Nao, let's get back to the testing! :)

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isn't practical? lawlwut.
lol@ everyone telling you that the fan needs to blow out and you thinking you are correct in wanting in blowing in.

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What's with the 800Mhz core clock? The standard 5770 specs is 850Mhz, are you underclocking it or did it come like that?

I'm seriously considering picking up a 5830 once they are released. They are looking to be just a little slower than a 5850 at stock, and should OC just as well since they are using the same core, just with some shaders disabled.

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Oops, should be 900 :p

And, for those of you not having this glitch...

Crazy ass glitch on 5XXX series

I'm also having it, and it's getting quite annoying after a little while.

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What OS and driver version are you using? ATI released a hotfix for that issue for the Cat 9.12 drivers here:
GPU42ATICatalyst9.12Hotfix

Update to Cat 10.1 if you haven't already. If that doesn't work, it seems enabling cursor trails (on the lowest setting) is a quick fix.

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It has something to do with Windows 7 and the 5xxx series, but the fix worked anyway.

Just a few benchmarks, done with Fraps or in-game benchmarks:

Unreal Tournament 3, highest settings, 1680x1050:

Min: 53
Avg: 103
Max: 158

Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X., highest settings, 8x AA, 1680x1050 (in-game benchmark)

Min: 37
Avg: 69
Max: 86

GTA 4, highest settings, 1680x1050 (in-game benchmark)

Min: 36
Avg: 57
Max: 76

Command and Conquer 4 Beta, highest settings, level 3 AA

Framerate limited

Min: 28
Avg: 30
Max: 30

Crisis, 'Gamer' settings (high/very high), 2x AA

Min: 24
Avg: 33
Max: 46


Thoughts?

Re: Went for the 5770 anyway.
 

Decent FPS in most games. Run some 3dmark and I can tell you if you are up to par, too many variables for games to be reliable for gauging performance.

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I'd recommend 3DMark Vantage. 06 tends to be pretty CPU limited.

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Is that a bad thing?

I personally prefer 01,03,05.

Just dont run the CPU tests on 03/ 05 (click exit before the cpu tests start and it still gives you a score)

Vantage isn't really any fun and you have to pay $10 to get a score.

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No, it's not. It's just that he wants an idea of how good his computer is with his new video card. It'd give him a better idea with something that's a little more on the GPU side of things. I personally prefer 06. 03's not bad either.

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Eh, not a fan of 06. Cant really tweak for it. Just throw on some mhz and run until it doesn't crash =/

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01 is good as long as your running XP. Any scores under Vista or 7 tend to pretty much suck. My score went up by almost 20,000 just from running in XP after using 7. My scores under 7 for 03-06 were actually better than XP though. So far i like 03 the best.

I like Vantage. If it wasn't for the free advanced edition key i got with my 4870 i probably would have never used it though.