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Supa January 2nd, 2010 06:31 PM

New Computer
 
I'm looking into building my own computer, since the one I've got right now is an HP computer that I've slowly upgraded so it could handle more than it should. :P

What parts I have right now are the generic parts I don't really need advice with.
Case, power supply, processor, video card, hard drive

What I really need help finding are a motherboard that goes well with an i5, and 6GB of RAM to go with it. It's possible that I won't be buying a new power supply as the one I have in here is more powerful.

If I don't go with the i5, I'd probably go with something like this. Better price, more powerful. Only thing it lacks that the i5 does take advantage is the dynamic overclocking to fit work loads. Would I really notice any performance problems if I have an Nvidia graphics card and an AMD CPU?

*The.Doctor January 2nd, 2010 07:17 PM

Re: New Computer
 
Either of these should do you pretty well:

Newegg.com - MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Newegg.com - MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

After reading a some reviews on these new MSI boards i'm impressed. They outperform the competing boards in the same price range most of the time, and use less power. The only downside is they lack a BIOS backup feature (the G65 does at least, not sure on the GD80).

Mr. Pedantic January 2nd, 2010 07:48 PM

Re: New Computer
 
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What I really need help finding are a motherboard that goes well with an i5, and 6GB of RAM to go with it. It's possible that I won't be buying a new power supply as the one I have in here is more powerful.
Since Lynnfield uses dual-channel RAM, you want either 4GB or 8GB. You don't need any fabulously expensive RAM, most DDR3-1600 kits will do.

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If I don't go with the i5, I'd probably go with something like this. Better price, more powerful. Only thing it lacks that the i5 does take advantage is the dynamic overclocking to fit work loads. Would I really notice any performance problems if I have an Nvidia graphics card and an AMD CPU?
In almost every single benchmark or performance indicator you care to name, the Core i5 750 is faster than the Phenom II X4 955. It's certainly more efficient, uses less power, and uses a more efficient architecture than the Phenom II.

As for Turbo Boost, I would much rather have a permanent overclock and turn Turbo Boost off than leave it at stock with Turbo Boost on. It will certainly give better performance, but depending on the voltages and clocks you settle with, it will use a little or a lot more power.

Supa January 2nd, 2010 08:27 PM

Re: New Computer
 
Alright, can someone link me to some decent (preferably cheap) RAM kits?

@ Mr. Pedantic: I'm not very hardware literate, so it wouldn't bother me if I had a more power CPU than a more efficient CPU, sin I could save quite a bit more on the Phenom II.

EDIT: What's better, and Nvidia GTX260 or an ATI HD 5770?

Mr. Pedantic January 2nd, 2010 09:44 PM

Re: New Computer
 
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@ Mr. Pedantic: I'm not very hardware literate, so it wouldn't bother me if I had a more power CPU than a more efficient CPU, sin I could save quite a bit more on the Phenom II.
AnandTech: Intel's Core i7 870 & i5 750, Lynnfield: Harder, Better, Faster Stronger

There is no situation where the Phenom II uses less than 40W more than the Core i5. That's about $20 a year, absolute minimum, much, much more if your CPU spends any time idle.

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Alright, can someone link me to some decent (preferably cheap) RAM kits?
I like G.Skill, but Corsair, Kingston, Crucial, Mushkin, Patriot, OCZ, etc all offer very good, reliable RAM.

For example: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Desktop Memory

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EDIT: What's better, and Nvidia GTX260 or an ATI HD 5770?
Performance-wise, a GTX260 is better, especially the BFG one you have, which may perform almost the same as a GTX275/HD4890. However, the 5770 offers DirectX11 support, Eyefinity, etc. which may/may not be worthwhile to you. If you don't find your current 260 intolerable, I would stick with the card you have.

Supa January 2nd, 2010 10:05 PM

Re: New Computer
 
Scratch all that, I'll probably go with the GTX260 and the AMD Phenom II X4, seeing as from what I was told, the HD 5770 isn't JA compatible. :/ It needs to be JA compatible.

*The.Doctor January 3rd, 2010 06:46 PM

Re: New Computer
 
A Phenom II should do you just fine if your main purpose is gaming. If you don't want to spend that much on a i5/i7 setup, its the next best option since socket 775 is dead now. Though your rot really going to be saving that much. At the resolutions most people game at (1280x1024 and higher) the difference between the 955 or 965 and the i5-750 is about 1-7fps most of the time.

That said though, the i5 is a lot faster at other things like multi media encoding, photoshop, ect... and does use a good bit less power. Read some reviews and decide if the difference is big enough to justify the extra cost of the i5 first.

Here's some links to a few reviews on gaming performance:
Core i5 750 - Core i7 860 and 870 processor review
AnandTech: Intel's Core i7 870 & i5 750, Lynnfield: Harder, Better, Faster Stronger
Intel Core i5 750 Processor Review - TechSpot

If you do decide to go AMD, i say get these:

Newegg.com - MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

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the HD 5770 isn't JA compatible. :/ It needs to be JA compatible.
JA compatible?

Supa January 4th, 2010 12:47 PM

Re: New Computer
 
Jedi Academy. Older game and I'm not ready to leave it yet, so I don't want to get a graphics card that, for whatever reason, doesn't run it.

Metall_pingwin January 4th, 2010 12:52 PM

Re: New Computer
 
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Originally Posted by SupaCrazy (Post 5188517)
Jedi Academy. Older game and I'm not ready to leave it yet, so I don't want to get a graphics card that, for whatever reason, doesn't run it.

Good man.

Supa January 4th, 2010 01:47 PM

Re: New Computer
 
Can't let go of the classics. lol


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