[Help!] Bad processor, mobo, or ???

[kow_ciller]

He might want to not get that motherboard if he plans to do any overclocking at all. A friend of mine recently sold his because it couldn't clock his dually or his quad for shit. He ended up getting a P35 based board and got 600 more mhz out of it (Q6600) than the P5N-D.

[Shintsu]

Uh no...I honestly hate overclocking and overclockers. I enjoy my nice factory warranty and have no desire to burn up or overwork an already blazing fast processor. He has no need to overclock, I would be more apt to and even I don't. All things considered I hardly see my processor being a weak point - if anything it'd be my video card but I can play everything I play maxed out with great FPS so I'm not complaining.

He got a replacement and despite some other stupid problems which he seems prone to (everything he gets messes up lol, I have no idea why because he does everything the same way I would) everything is working good now.

[*The.Doctor]

Originally Posted by Shintsu

Uh no...I honestly hate overclocking and overclockers.

Not a wise thing to say in the Tech Discussion seeing as how almost all of us in here are overclockers...

[kow_ciller]

And the fact that you dont void your cpu warranty or motherboard warranty by overclocking. Hell, overclocking is encouraged on the motherboards part. There really isn't any way to void a warranty from overclocking. Most makers wont be able to tell if you overclocked or not. Volt mods are pretty much the only thing that will void a warranty.

[Shintsu]

I don't care - I am stating what I think. If you have a problem with it, too bad. I see plenty of people who didn't overclock and I know people who are like myself as well. It's just an ePeen enhancer, like anyone will see some tremendous increase in performance from it.

And yes, the manufacturer can tell if you burnt the chip up. They've long since been able to tell if you overclocked it and if you do and it fries then you're out of luck. Again, excellent performance with stock clock and little gain from overclock - I see no benefit.

The question of this thread has been answered and I kindly request a moderator lock this thread to prevent any further posts. No need for this to turn into an argument (Mainly because you'll never convince me, so there's no need for it).

[Oblivious]

Main thing is you unlock more performance for free, often with a simple FSB increase and ram divider change, no voltage changes necessary. No one says you have to push your chip to it's extreme limit. No matter, to each their own.


As to the funky push-pin heatsinks, I read somewhere that the secret to them is to set them into the lock position first and then push them thru til they click rather than that push and turn crap in the directions. I did that with my current heat sink and it went right in very easily. An older Intel push-pin heatsink I used the directions on was a pain in the butt.

[*The.Doctor]

...like anyone will see some tremendous increase in performance from it.

I did. I gained nearly 15fps in some games from just OCing my CPU.

And yes, the manufacturer can tell if you burnt the chip up. They've long since been able to tell if you overclocked it and if you do and it fries then you're out of luck. Again, excellent performance with stock clock and little gain from overclock - I see no benefit.

Sounds like you've been hearing to many of the overclocking myths. With a good aftermarket cooler (which costs about $35-40) and proper knowledge of your hardwares limits overclocking is a perfectly safe way to increase your entire computers performance essentially for free. Spending just $40 to get a extra 1Ghz or more speed out of your CPU is fantastic, i don't see how anybody can argue with that.

For example, the E8600 is actually a bad deal. Its price is considerably higher than the E8400 for nothing more than a extra 160Mhz. With about a minute of your time in the BIOS, you can set the much cheaper E8400 to run at the same speed or much faster and save your money.

Your also not going to "Fry" your CPU unless your a complete idiot and set the voltage as high as it will go. Excessive voltage is really the only way to fry a CPU. Modern CPU's will either clock themselves back or shutdown/restart the PC if they overheat, and most made for OCing mobos with actually reset themselves to stock settings if your OC fails to avoid damage to your hardware. A little time, knowledge, and common sense is all thats needed.

[Sgt. D. Pilla]

The ONLY time you need to panic is if one of your 4 BIOSs fail to reset the OC :P
I did that once, BIOS failed to boot, so did the backup chip, the HDD flash file failed to automatically restore, as did the one on CD.
No drama though, besides crapping my pants, a nice screw driver to the CMOS pins while the system was running and boom, BIOS's all reset and all reflashed.
Ahh, life doesn't get much easier then that to fix a complete fuck up.
Like Doc said, I paid 70$ for my heatsink (bout 35$ USD!!) and got a 1.16GHz Overclock out of it, some games I've seen FPS jump up by 30 or more (Such as Crysis, CPU intensive game, and COD4/5)

Difference with me compare to the others around here, Is I'm never happy, and I'm only really a learner OCer, I want 1.2GHz OC from my CPU which I know it will do, I just don't have the RAM.

Give me ONE good reason to not OC and I may start to see your way, but as far as I'm concerned, there is no reason to not Overclock unless your a cheapscape and don't want to buy a new HSF (In which case you do what I did and OC and get 800Mhz more out of it )

[kow_ciller]

Hell, you can even overclock on a stock cooler. And NO a cpu maker will not know if you killed a chip from overclocking or not. A chip doesn't burn, hell if it does all you can say is that it overheated with the stock cooler. They dont really care since a chip that cost them $60 to make is a drop in the bucket when compared to keeping up and having a good customer service base. I fried my sisters e2160 doing a pad-mod on it and they sent me a new cpu overnight. Its not big deal for them to send you another chip. Also pilla, if you need some new ram imma have either some ballistix or OCZ reapers available soon depending on what takes my dually higher.

edit: who the hell gave me negative rep for saying that nvidia 500-series chipsets dont support 45nm dual cores? ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
I dont see 45nm support for that motherboard. Hell, they dont even support 1333FSB or the ability to overclock to that FSB speed. jackasses.

[Sgt. D. Pilla]

Lol, neg rep wasn't me, I agreed cause I couldnt' even find the motherboard lol.
Nah dude, I'm gonna get some HyperX, 4GB kits going for 85$ so I'll invest in two of them (Crank out 8GB 800MHz OCd boo yah!)