Question about GPU temp and possible upgrade.

[Chocu1a]

in the us:
9600gt- 149 usd
8800gt- 199 usd
& a 9600gt is only 10-20% slower than the 8800gt.




Oh, btw...the increase from a 8600 to a 9600 is more like 50% as the 9600 has twice as many stream processors.

[UNDIESRULES]

Is the cooling in your case up to the job? If insufficient air goes through it, the card will get hot and stay hot.

[Acualy Is Confusingkid]

Originally Posted by Sgt. D. Pilla

HA!
For bumping a thread that was only 5 minutes old, with no replies, I'm not going to provide my advice!
There is no reason to bump a thread with no replies, 5 minutes after you created it!!

OHNOES... Noob..

Originally Posted by The_Daedalus

Umm... he waited a day before bumping it...

Originally Posted by Vinceh

LULZ.

Maybe the cooler on yo graphics card is wack.

Maybe the OCing has made it piping hot like tea.

My 8800GT idles at 40ish and yours should too or even less.

Stock Cooling with a stock OC, but I've seen others with the same card w/ lower temps..

Originally Posted by ikyojo

Mine 8600GT sits at about 54 and never gos over with my cooling tool.

Well, you'rs is in the range of mine just about

Originally Posted by Sgt. D. Pilla

Umm...
:O STUPID OPERA!
EPIC LOLS!
Opera is saying the same thing as it did when I posted that post...
19 minutes ago for post 1, and 14 minutes ago for post 2! :/

Crazy Opera...

In that case, your GPU is funky dude, my 8800GT idles at 42C, Load is 45C

I would assume the cooler on an 8800GT is better, also, it has pci-e 2.0 w/ exhaust in the rear.

Originally Posted by Apollo75

I would go for it.

Hell, even a HD 3850 would completely destroy any 8600 no problem. You would probably see at least double the framerate in some games with a 3870.

About your heat issue, my overclocked 3850 idles at about 40C, and goes up to 65-70C under load. That's with the stock cooler and the fan set to 80%.

Stupid thing is, I used Rivatuner and set my fanspeed to 100%, it lowered it from 64' C to 63'C...

Originally Posted by Count_Chocu1a

a nvidia 9600gt will out perform a 3870 & is the same price.

That's good to know..

Originally Posted by Count_Chocu1a

in the us:
9600gt- 149 usd
8800gt- 199 usd
& a 9600gt is only 10-20% slower than the 8800gt.




Oh, btw...the increase from a 8600 to a 9600 is more like 50% as the 9600 has twice as many stream processors.

Alright, that 9600GT looks pretty darn tasty right now. a 50% increase will make me super happy..

Thanks Count, you might have just saved me from ATI's death trap.
I'll probably go with either EVGA or XFX as far as the 9600GT goes.
And, I'll need to upgrade my PSU as well. Got any good recommendations for that?

Originally Posted by UNDIESRULES

Is the cooling in your case up to the job? If insufficient air goes through it, the card will get hot and stay hot.

It's probably not too good.
I have the stock CPU cooler, then a 120 MM rear exhaust fan, but it seems like it doesn't move too much air. So i might think about adding another 120 MM fan, replacing the crap one, and replacing the CPU cooler with something better. If that doesn't do it, I dunno what will.

Thanks everyone for your replies except Sgt. D. Pilla..

[Vince]

If your getting a 9600GT, don't. Get an 8800GT instead. 8800GT's beat 9600GT's in the long run. They have like the same power needs, 9600GT, newer technology, so fair ploy. But still, 8800 some GT.

[Acualy Is Confusingkid]

Originally Posted by Vinceh

If your getting a 9600GT, don't. Get an 8800GT instead. 8800GT's beat 9600GT's in the long run. They have like the same power needs, 9600GT, newer technology, so fair ploy. But still, 8800 some GT.

I'm poor. I'll barely be able to afford the 9600Gt and a PSU. Let alone $50 more for an 8800GT.

[Sgt. D. Pilla]

The 8800GT is cheaper, Faster *That bench mark is RUBBISH*.
The 9600GT is bearly faster then the 8600GT

I would assume the cooler on an 8800GT is better, also, it has pci-e 2.0 w/ exhaust in the rear.

Now its my turn to be a fag aswell....
N00B!
The 9600GT has a bigger cooler then the 8800GT does, which is why the 8800GT had a fair bit of 'fail card' when it was released, a 30mm fan doesn't do shit to it.
Every stock 9600GT I've seen has a 40mm fan and exhaust, every 8800GT I've seen has a 30mm fan and exhaust

Also, you could save up for like...another week before jumping into a 9600GT.

I guarentee you will be dissapointed with it.

*Another note, 8800GT, High Spec Graphics, 1680*1050 is 40FPS in Crysis, VeryHigh Spec is 22FPS*

[foodmaniac2003]

Originally Posted by Sgt. D. Pilla

The 9600GT is bearly faster then the 8600GT

From Ars Technica, note how the 9600GT gives more than double the FPS of the 8600GTS, which gives better performance than the 8600GT.

Spoiler:

Also, you can see benchmarks with the 9600GT and 8600GT at Anandtech:
AnandTech: Bringing Competition to Midrange: The GeForce 9600 GT Raises NVIDIA's Sub $200 Bar

I will note that the 8800GT is definitely a good buy right now. Here is one for only $140 after rebate
Newegg.com - ZOTAC ZT-88TES3P-FCP GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

That specific ZOTAC 8800GT got a great review too:
A sweet 16 mid-range graphics cards compared - The Tech Report - Page 12

Confusingkid, what kind of games do you want to play on your PC? Second, what is your budget?

[Chocu1a]

Pilla, seriously, man....I know you know your tech stuff, but you are WAAAAAAY wrong on this one. The 9600gt is slightly slower than the 8800gt, twice as powerful as a 8600gt. Also, all 88000gt's produced now have the beefier cooler found on the 9600gt & 8800gts'. It is a 2 slot cooler.
CK, go with the evga. their customer service is beyond excellent. I knocked a capacitor off my old 7900gt(purely my own fault), & they replaced it no questions asked. Then when I fried it with a volt mod, they rlpaced it with a 8800gt 320mb since they quit making the 7900gt. Real cool guys.

[Acualy Is Confusingkid]

Originally Posted by Sgt. D. Pilla

The 8800GT is cheaper, Faster *That bench mark is RUBBISH*.
The 9600GT is bearly faster then the 8600GT

Now its my turn to be a fag aswell....
N00B!
The 9600GT has a bigger cooler then the 8800GT does, which is why the 8800GT had a fair bit of 'fail card' when it was released, a 30mm fan doesn't do shit to it.
Every stock 9600GT I've seen has a 40mm fan and exhaust, every 8800GT I've seen has a 30mm fan and exhaust

Also, you could save up for like...another week before jumping into a 9600GT.

I guarentee you will be dissapointed with it.

*Another note, 8800GT, High Spec Graphics, 1680*1050 is 40FPS in Crysis, VeryHigh Spec is 22FPS*

Lol, sorry, but for some reason, I can't take you seriously..And BTW, don't call me a fag, it gives me a bad image..

Originally Posted by foodmaniac2003

From Ars Technica, note how the 9600GT gives more than double the FPS of the 8600GTS, which gives better performance than the 8600GT.

Spoiler:

Also, you can see benchmarks with the 9600GT and 8600GT at Anandtech:
AnandTech: Bringing Competition to Midrange: The GeForce 9600 GT Raises NVIDIA's Sub $200 Bar

I will note that the 8800GT is definitely a good buy right now. Here is one for only $140 after rebate
Newegg.com - ZOTAC ZT-88TES3P-FCP GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

That specific ZOTAC 8800GT got a great review too:
A sweet 16 mid-range graphics cards compared - The Tech Report - Page 12

Confusingkid, what kind of games do you want to play on your PC? Second, what is your budget?

Alright, I already play Games such as Crysis, Cod4, UTIII, and a few others on my 8600GT, but I'd like to see better performance in those games.
I think my budget will be around $210-$215 (I know, a weird number, it's the money I got for making a website for a business, which, they no longer even use.. )

That Zotac one looks good, but I would prefer a more trusted brand like EVGA XFX, PNY, etc. Is Zotac any good?

Originally Posted by Count_Chocu1a

Pilla, seriously, man....I know you know your tech stuff, but you are WAAAAAAY wrong on this one. The 9600gt is slightly slower than the 8800gt, twice as powerful as a 8600gt. Also, all 88000gt's produced now have the beefier cooler found on the 9600gt & 8800gts'. It is a 2 slot cooler.
CK, go with the evga. their customer service is beyond excellent. I knocked a capacitor off my old 7900gt(purely my own fault), & they replaced it no questions asked. Then when I fried it with a volt mod, they rlpaced it with a 8800gt 320mb since they quit making the 7900gt. Real cool guys.

Alright, I'll check out a few different online vendors, and a few retailers around my house and see what is the best price on the 9600's and the 8800's. I'm leaning more towards the 9600 just because of price though. I will need to drop ~$50 on a decent psu,so that leaves ~$160 for the card itself.

And Count, that is an inspiring EVGA story.

Really though, it's awesome.

[Chocu1a]

If you can...save up for the 8800gt. I have an xfx xxx8800gt 512mb(clocked at 670/1700 & it owns.
I would recommend a minimum wattage of 500(no less) for a new psu. Go with a reputable brand such as ocz, antec or seasonic(they are costly, though). A psu is one area NOT to go on the cheap.