Help Overclocking!
 

I am having trouble overclocking my CPU (Athlon X2 4200 Dual Core) the software that comes with it wont let me or I cant find where to overclock it. I have nTune that came with my ASUS AN8 SLI Premium. Ntune only gives me the option to overclock my memory or PCI buss that i can see. Can anywone tell me if this is possible and how to do it ,where is the option in Ntune or if you cant with ntune at all.

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Have you overclocked before? i always prefer to do it from the bios,are you famililar with your bios?have a look at it,get to know where settings are like:where to change your cpu frequency,where to change your memory frequency for example,these are usually in "Advanced chipset features"do some research into "overclocking 939's".Last but not least do you have stock cooling on your cpu?If you have never overclocked before its alot to explain if you don't know the terminology,also its all very well uping the cpu speed in some software but you also have to increase the "vcore",otherwise it becomes unstable,this is found in the bios.

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Overclock it in the BIOS. Windows overclocking software sucks rather badly. Make sure you have decent cooling and know how to reset your BIOS.

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nono, I have OC before but with p4's from BIOS and I dont have stock cooling i just dont know how to overclock 939's i tried to have a look in bios and i cant find it. Do i need to upgrade BIOS? one of my friends told me to do this.

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This is why 939s aren't very good for overclocking.

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The Asus software is ok to use, its called Ai booster and you can download it from http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us

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So they are not very good then??? so why can a venice 3200+ and opteron 146 overclock to match an FX 57???on stock cooling as well!!

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Question, why are you overclocking it, that chipset is fine, sure you'll see a small performance boost, but not worth the risk of destroying your chip if the OC doesn't work.

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You cannot destroy your chip unless you do something overly stupid (Increasing Vcore insanely)...

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Well yes I know, but the real question is why? You won't notice a HUGE speed increase.

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Experimenting.

I didn't need to Overclock my 3700+, but I was curious so I did. It does give you a performance increase. But has given me problems, but that is only because I am not 100% knowledged about overclocking.

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Fair point, but do you have a 3200+ or a Opteron 146? No. Those older 939 CPUs did overclock fairly well (like the similar socket 754 CPUs), but the more recent ones (and the X2 range is about as recent as it gets) can be a problem. Now, yes, I'm sure you can find on the internet somewhere that someone has overclocked one to 3GHz or something; but that doesn't mean you can do it with your setup. Really, if you wanted to overclock you should've stayed with your P4 lol. Although they do vary, they can take a hell of a lot of abuse when overclocking.

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I am overclocking because I having trouble running F.E.A.R it lags a bit. So I look at the requirements and I meet everything but the CPU so thats why I am overclocking.And I have this fairly good CPU fan (ThermalTake TR2) and i think I will ok. Right now I am not overclocking and my pc is at 23 Idle and 30 Full load.

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30 Degrees Centigrade is bloody amazing under load. Very cool indeed.

You should not be getting lag with that CPU, it is one of the best. What is the rest of your systems specifications?

There is a menu in the BIOS (on the A8N SLI Motherboards, I have one too), it is 'Jumper Free Configuration', in here you can adjust your clock speed and multipliers, as well as PCI syncro's etc.

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right on, I found it. Ya BIOS jumper free configuration. I put it NOS so if its my CPU it will auto Overclock. My gaming pc is 2 on my signature.( Athlon 4200 dual,Geforce6800 gt OC 522 Core 1120 Mem and i have 3 GB of ram with 2 SATA hard drives 1) 74 GB 10000 and 2) 300 GB 7200

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seem ok to me i got 2.8 out of mine:naughty:

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Don't use NOS. It is just a feature that ASUS use to temporarily overclock your CPU. Switch it to Manual, and raise your Core by about 5MHz and go from there. Multiplier should be set at 11X, and turn Cool 'n Quite off.

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K, But I am putting it up but if i want it at 2.4 what do i put it at in BIOS?

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They are 2.2GHz stock right?

Then the multiplier and clock should be at 11 X 200MHz;

To get 2.4GHz, increase the clock from 200MHz up to 218MHz.

Too much higher and that, and you will probably see some instability problems.

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K, Thanks for all the help.

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No problems.

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If you had looked at my sig you would of noticed what i have....have you looked yet??? yes a venice 3200+ running at 2.4ghz thats equivilant to 3800+,have you done any research into these new cores that are so called bad at overclocking???i don't think so,as you don't know what your talking about,and as for the 146 they are actually better then the venice because of a lower voltage eg 1.45vcore should get you 2.4ghz on a venice and 2.7ghz on the opteron.The "p4" yes good at overclocking but for 1:they use twice as much power and 2:they get alot hotter.Also to add insult to injury they cost more than the equivilant AMD.

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You seem to know what your doing and what your talking about :D :nodding:

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Wow, 400MHz, I'm stunned by the sheer uberness of that increase...

As for your sig, yeah that was my mistake...I got you confused with the topic starter. What one CPU can do is irrelevant, especially when it's from a different product lineup. After all, single/dual core is about as different as CPUs can get from each other.

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Yes :cya:

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That's more like it. :)

But my original comment that got some people arguing with me was aimed at the recent socket 939 CPUs, not the older 754 and 940 CPUs (like the 146) which were quite highly praised for their overclocking capability when they were new.

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My chip is a 939 opteron (single core) and is from Dec05/Jan06
But I do agreee there is less headroom in the AMD dual core X2 chips,
but the dual Opteron on 939 ARE still very clockable.

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Agreed as above the 146 can be a 940 but many people now use the 939 146 which is highly overclockable :D

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I am running 300MHz higher..

Was at 2.6 but it started to mess up. Not because of heat, but because my vcore wasn't high enough. Running fine.

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Couldn't you up the vcore a bit? If heat wasn't a problem that means you should be able to put a bit more power through it safely.

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What mobo u using - may be a simple vcore mod to allow higher voltage if your bios vcore setting is at max.

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Huh? No seriously what are you smoking. A64's clock better and better by the day. Newer steppings of X2's are hitting 2.7ghz+ on stock vcore. Venices and San diego's have no problem hitting FX speeds. Both P4's and A64's overclock well but I give the a slight edge to the P4 becasue it doesn't suffer from a coldbug.

Mr Nitto 1.45 gets me to 2.65ghz on my venice. ;)

To the OP.

Set CPU multi to 10x240HTT = 2400mhz
Run the 166mhz ram divider to keep ram at around 200mhz.

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That's a huge misconception about overclocking. SNDS was quite the plague a couple years ago because quite a few people took that line of thought.
Too much voltage can (and will) kill a chip long before the temps go critical in many cases.

And FWIW, And the 939 1xx Opterons have become the new darlings of AMD overclockers everywhere. Even Denmark.

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SDNS does effect A64's. High vdimm + low vcore = SDNS on Revision E chips.

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I take it you've put 1.925V through a Northwood C P4, then?

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Well I have put 1.8v thorugh my venice. :smokin:

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No, my Gallatin 2.4C does 3.6GHz just fine with only a minor bump to Vcore.

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See sig, A8N SLI-Deluxe.

I made a thread about this a while ago.

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Which bios version are you using?
as I'm sure some of the later and beta bios are setting max 1.7 vcore or more

link to bios update (1007) and instructions.
http://hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/38623/

1008 beta bios:
http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion...php?t4345.html

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I'm using Revision 1015...

That seems newer.

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revision 'B' ?

What date is the bios?

What is the MAX vcore you can set in bios ?

Have you tried to see if the hb pencil trick will work on your vcore resistor? (be wery wery careful though :) )

Yeah, sry, can't be %^&$££^&* trolling through the meaningless nonsense for hours.

Most peeps questions on here are already answered several times in other forums on the web - google is new thing to some...

But I'm assuming you have exhausted every possible means first before posting in forums :)