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Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG October 30th, 2006 11:53 PM

what super heavy tank to buy?
 
well recently i was thinking of investing in buying one of the supertanks from forgeworld but im not to sure on which one to buy so i wanted some advice on which one to get and which is stronger.so tell me what you think
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog...AVY_TANKS.html

Tar-Emmetar October 31st, 2006 12:12 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
The Stormsword is the one with the plasma blast gun yeah? cuz that looks awesome. Powerful too but the Baneblade is probably the best for gaming cuz its the best alrounder according to one of the IA books i've got.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG October 31st, 2006 12:38 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
stormblade is the one ur thinking of cos stormsword has a big battle cannon

to_plus_to October 31st, 2006 05:20 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Id say baneblade, its simply just the best/coolest. Great defence, great offence (even good dead because everyone has to climb over it) Its hard to kill, and got 11 barrels of hell. :D (it would also be ok to settle on the heavy siege of any type of tank, because first off, just the phrase "heavy siege" make it way cool, :D, and when its heavy siege it always means its got a better attack power than the origanal)

Mr. Pedantic October 31st, 2006 10:38 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
What is MaxiMillian WeiseMann's baneblade like?

But apart from that, which I don;t know anything about, the Baneblade is definitely coolest.

Honsou October 31st, 2006 12:20 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Baneblade. Has no specific roll so is very addaptable and good at everything. As i have one, i can also say it is VERY effective at wiping out huge chunks of your opponents army. It also has a huge psycological effect. the look on your opponents face when you put it on the table is priceless...

The_splurge October 31st, 2006 01:18 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Hmm. I wouldn't go for the Titan Hunter, as aside from fighting other superheavy vehicles, it won't be much use. I recommend Maximillian Weismanns Baneblade, as you can use it as both the standard and special baneblade. 2 models in 1!

FreshRex October 31st, 2006 02:59 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
baneblade id say it has good fire and can destrooy all types of targets it has all the guns for vehicles and troop killing so id say just a straight up old fashioned baneblade.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG October 31st, 2006 07:09 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
well storm blade would suit my force the most cos its a seige tank and my army is seige specailists or i could just get both

FreshRex October 31st, 2006 09:39 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
yah that would be so cool to have 2 of those huge tanks. armys would see them and run in fear of being crushed by there treads.

Mr. Pedantic October 31st, 2006 11:52 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
How much money do you have??!!! :eek:
But if you can get two, get them. Even if they cost like a thousand points each, the fact that you could potentially field two virtually unstoppable tanks will freak your opponent out something frightful.

I just hope I never have to play you.

MaximillianWeisemann November 1st, 2006 06:19 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
My 2 cents.
I own a Stormsword super heavy siege tank, pretty nice model and quite easy to build compared to more complex ones like the baneblades.

On the table, the Stormsword is really only used in city fights, it's a nightmare in such environment (36" AP1 ST10 titan killer, artillery blast... just aim a the biggest tyranid beetle and see it blown up, finish the job with the heavy bolters and the flamethrowers).

The Shadowsord is a very nice model, but it's pretty useless on the table, sure its Volcano cannon is n°1 Titan killer but since your oponents don't field many of these, you'll have to waste your shots on less valuable targets.

The Stormblade does quite the same job, although it hasn't got the same range it's still pretty powerfull.

The Baneblade is the best all-rounder, but it lacks the titan-killing firepower that can bring anything with 3hp or more down in one shot, even tyranid princes... the battlecanon is still pretty devastating and its impressive amount of weapons makes it "the" superheavy tank.

tbh, i had the choice between buying a Baneblade or the Death Korps infantry squads, since troops are fielded way more often than super heavies my choice went for Krieg.

There's still the question "should i buy the Mars or the Lucius pattern Baneblade?", The Mars pattern has a really advanced technological look (compared to Imperial standards) but the Lucius one has that special look that makes it different... and of course it's "my" tank ^^.


check these pics out, they show my Stormsword super heavy siege tank and a Lucius Pattern Baneblade, both unfinished, before the beginning of the Medusa V campaign, you'll be able to see both models under different angles and maybe help you choosing.

PS: do NOT mix up Stormsword (Super Heavy Siege Tank) with Stormblade (Plasma cannon Titan hunter). Stormswords are battle damaged Shadowswords repaired and field-workshop modified tanks still pretty rare on the battlefield since no Forgeworld is building them.

FreshRex November 1st, 2006 03:10 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
that where some nice pics but after hearing about that titan killer id say go for the strom sword but it just depends on what tank you think will benfit your army most on a overall scale.

Mr. Pedantic November 1st, 2006 04:06 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Hey, if the Imperium have Titans, then why do they bother wasting Baneblade chassis on making Titan Hunters, when they can just get a Titan to hunt another Titan?

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 1st, 2006 09:48 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider149 (Post 3329248)
How much money do you have??!!! :eek:
But if you can get two, get them. Even if they cost like a thousand points each, the fact that you could potentially field two virtually unstoppable tanks will freak your opponent out something frightful.

I just hope I never have to play you.

i have a budget big enough to buy one super tank although im not to sure to get 2 gorgons or 1 super tank

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaximillianWeisemann (Post 3329525)
My 2 cents.
I own a Stormsword super heavy siege tank, pretty nice model and quite easy to build compared to more complex ones like the baneblades.

On the table, the Stormsword is really only used in city fights, it's a nightmare in such environment (36" AP1 ST10 titan killer, artillery blast... just aim a the biggest tyranid beetle and see it blown up, finish the job with the heavy bolters and the flamethrowers).

The Shadowsord is a very nice model, but it's pretty useless on the table, sure its Volcano cannon is n°1 Titan killer but since your oponents don't field many of these, you'll have to waste your shots on less valuable targets.

The Stormblade does quite the same job, although it hasn't got the same range it's still pretty powerfull.

The Baneblade is the best all-rounder, but it lacks the titan-killing firepower that can bring anything with 3hp or more down in one shot, even tyranid princes... the battlecanon is still pretty devastating and its impressive amount of weapons makes it "the" superheavy tank.

tbh, i had the choice between buying a Baneblade or the Death Korps infantry squads, since troops are fielded way more often than super heavies my choice went for Krieg.

There's still the question "should i buy the Mars or the Lucius pattern Baneblade?", The Mars pattern has a really advanced technological look (compared to Imperial standards) but the Lucius one has that special look that makes it different... and of course it's "my" tank ^^.


check these pics out, they show my Stormsword super heavy siege tank and a Lucius Pattern Baneblade, both unfinished, before the beginning of the Medusa V campaign, you'll be able to see both models under different angles and maybe help you choosing.

PS: do NOT mix up Stormsword (Super Heavy Siege Tank) with Stormblade (Plasma cannon Titan hunter). Stormswords are battle damaged Shadowswords repaired and field-workshop modified tanks still pretty rare on the battlefield since no Forgeworld is building them.

well that settles it i was wondering which tank was best out of all and you answered it i guese i will get a baneblade or a stormsword.

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Originally Posted by FreshRex (Post 3330648)
that where some nice pics but after hearing about that titan killer id say go for the strom sword but it just depends on what tank you think will benfit your army most on a overall scale.

i think a storm sword would do well in my force as it has a mother of a hard hitting cannon and itle take down any big monster or warmachine in its path. i also want a bane blade as it has a whopping 11 weapons(or 12 if you add a stubber)

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Originally Posted by Spider149 (Post 3330729)
Hey, if the Imperium have Titans, then why do they bother wasting Baneblade chassis on making Titan Hunters, when they can just get a Titan to hunt another Titan?

well think about it titans are huge hulking machines why bother even making a titan when you make a tank half the size and half the cost. plus a warhound class titan is just a scout a reaver class titan is the next size up and almost twice the size as a warhound class titan. the warlord class titans are the next size being triple that of a reaver. very big if you calculate it. then there is the massive emporer class titan x5 that of a warlord. if forge world ever mad a model for that it would be so big it couldnt fit into your house. and its foot would only fit on a huge 6m by 4m table.BIG! AS!. to think that you could stop a warlord chaos titan with 4 tanks a quater the size of it. think about it

Mr. Pedantic November 1st, 2006 10:15 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Yeah, I suppose so. They should still make the weapons sort of switchable, so each tank could be more versatile.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 1st, 2006 10:24 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider149 (Post 3331338)
Yeah, I suppose so. They should still make the weapons sort of switchable, so each tank could be more versatile.

what are you talking about?

Mr. Pedantic November 1st, 2006 10:33 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
They could design the tank so that you could change the weapons on it, so it could go from say, a siege tank to a primarily infantry support, to a anti-armour tank.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 2nd, 2006 12:37 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
well they could but forge world probably wont do that nowing there sprues dont normaly have spare parts

MaximillianWeisemann November 2nd, 2006 11:02 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
well they could... not.

Fluff wise, these super heavy tanks have specific internal structures and technologies which are unique to their kind, thus the only way to turn a Super Heavy into another one concerns the Shadowsword-Stormsword type, Stormswords are recovered Shadowswords which got knocked out during combat and which got their complex weaponry (Volcano Canon & targeters) replaced by a huge siege gun and heavy flamers.


As for the models, if you have a closer look at each of them, the hull is bascially the same, but that's where it stops. The Baneblade hull is the most complex due to all the weapons it carries, the Stormsword is based on a Shadowsword hull (mine's one of the 1st Shadowswords which were produced by FW, i bought it on pre-release when it came out and had a lot of problems to build it since it had Shadowsword instructions in it) but still is not able to be equipped with a Shadowsword weaponry...
And anyway, if you're looking for versatile tanks which you can change everyday, have a closer look at the Leman Russ variants which are meant to do that.

BTW: DKOK, your Krieg army will probably look close to mine since i already got the Stormsword and the Krieg models are on their way since last week ;).

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 2nd, 2006 09:25 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
yo max what army do you collect? anyways your awesome thanx for all the advice and can you post a pic of your super tanks? itle be cool to see an a dkok super tank. cheers

MaximillianWeisemann November 3rd, 2006 06:51 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaximillianWeisemann (Post 3329525)
check >> these pics << out, they show my Stormsword super heavy siege tank and a Lucius Pattern Baneblade, both unfinished, before the beginning of the Medusa V campaign, you'll be able to see both models under different angles and maybe help you choosing.


Just click on the underlined link, the Stormsword hasn't changed much but is finished since mid-campaign, it now has different badges and other tactical insignas spread across the hull, i'm working on a small diorama base to put it on, this base will include a couple of small ruins, a few DK soldiers, a Heavy weapon and (of course) the Stormsword. But i still got to find a base for the diorama which will allow me to keep the minis' normal basing (cause I intend to play with them, they won't just stay there for display).


Oh and what armies do I collect?
Well, let's see i got an IG army(old cadian models), an Iron Warrior battlegroup, enough necrons to battle around a bit, something like 1000 points of marines and recently i also got a small tyranid force. Oh and nearly forgot it: 750 points of Grey Knights including the contest Dreadnought (see sticky topic "painting comp")

Darth_Exile November 3rd, 2006 08:42 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
I would get a stormsword, the massive plasma cannon is great.

Mr. Pedantic November 3rd, 2006 11:15 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
I would get a baneblade, the sheer amount and variety of weapons is great.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 3rd, 2006 11:42 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaximillianWeisemann (Post 3333710)
Just click on the underlined link, the Stormsword hasn't changed much but is finished since mid-campaign, it now has different badges and other tactical insignas spread across the hull, i'm working on a small diorama base to put it on, this base will include a couple of small ruins, a few DK soldiers, a Heavy weapon and (of course) the Stormsword. But i still got to find a base for the diorama which will allow me to keep the minis' normal basing (cause I intend to play with them, they won't just stay there for display).


Oh and what armies do I collect?
Well, let's see i got an IG army(old cadian models), an Iron Warrior battlegroup, enough necrons to battle around a bit, something like 1000 points of marines and recently i also got a small tyranid force. Oh and nearly forgot it: 750 points of Grey Knights including the contest Dreadnought (see sticky topic "painting comp")

woah are those your models!!!!!!! man that is friggen awesome i thought they were just some guyss models 10/10 mate you rawk:stallard::stallard::stallard: woot i want a stormsword now thanks for all the tips

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Exile (Post 3333886)
I would get a stormsword, the massive plasma cannon is great.

yeah it looks cool but it isnt as strong as a stormsword and a baneblade but i might get one just to suit my force

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider149 (Post 3334184)
I would get a baneblade, the sheer amount and variety of weapons is great.

i probably will get one of those tobut i like the look and power of a stormsword for now.

has any one got a stormblade and if so could you post a pic of it? cheers

MaximillianWeisemann November 3rd, 2006 01:09 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Exile (Post 3333886)
I would get a stormsword, the massive plasma cannon is great.

Stormblade damnit!

Stormsword = Super heavy siege tank with siege cannon
Stormblade = Super heavy titan killer with plasma blast gun


Why do people just mix those two up ?

And for the pics, the Stormsword is mine, the Baneblade (Lucius pattern) belongs to one of the local GW stop staff members with whom i battle sometimes (but mine's totally finished by now ^^).

Mr. Pedantic November 3rd, 2006 01:41 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
How much does a baneblade cost?
And also, I image it is quite easy to mix stormsword and stormblade up, they are quite similar.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 3rd, 2006 02:22 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
for spider guy: i live in nz like you so it should cost a least $500nz over here so its prety pricey

Mr. Pedantic November 3rd, 2006 03:00 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
****!!

That sort of kills my plan. Oh, well. That's okay. I still have my fledgeling Tau army.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 4th, 2006 01:53 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
yes it blows a hole the size of big thing in your wallet i sort of intend to pay for half and get my mum to pay for the other half for xmas( i hope)

FreshRex November 4th, 2006 11:08 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
haha thats always a good idea or try to be really nice and then ask for a *little* favor.

Mr. Pedantic November 4th, 2006 11:42 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
your parents must be really really nice and generous to you. My parents wouldnt fork out 500 bucks just for a plastic or resin thing. Even my dad wouldnt do that, and its a tank.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 4th, 2006 12:19 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
i said pay for half of it as in $250 there that saves abit of money

Mr. Pedantic November 4th, 2006 01:18 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Nope. $250 is still too much. But I don't think they'd spend any money on W40k anyway. I pay for everything myself, which is why I have so few models.

Tar-Emmetar November 4th, 2006 06:23 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Its still a crazy amount of cash to spend on one tank, yoiu could get 2 battle forces for that, or one of the new SM or tau or eldar army bundles. 150 pounds is about $360-$370 AUD for 390 from the online store you could get an IG commans squad, 40 cadain shock troops, a heavy weapons platoon, 10 karskins, a basliska and a leman russ. That is worth spending money on compared to just getting one tank, even iof it is a really cool tank that has 11 guns.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 4th, 2006 06:34 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
but i is pretty exclusive so its slighty worth it

Mr. Pedantic November 4th, 2006 07:09 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
Yeah, I suppose so. But I have no self control, so as soon as i get enough money, I go and buy whatever it i've been wanting. I just don;'t think I can wait for 250 or 500 bucks.

Tar-Emmetar November 5th, 2006 12:06 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
i take it you don't have a job and you don't realise the effort it takes to earn $500 in part time employment and how one tank won't seem so special when you realise all the other stuff you could do or buy with it.

Death_Korp_Of_KRIEG November 5th, 2006 11:02 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
i do have a job 8 bucks an hour ok. its my money I can do what i like with it. i was just thinking of getting one(i enjoy my hobby).

Mr. Pedantic November 5th, 2006 11:30 PM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
You must enjoy it a lot. And eight bucks an hour? that is over 7 days of eight-hours each. And part-time, it might be, what, five, six weeks?

Tar-Emmetar November 6th, 2006 12:35 AM

Re: what super heavy tank to buy?
 
yeah i enjoy my hobby too but thats heaps of cash for a tank, but i guess if you got nothin else to spend your money on go for it.


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