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i collect chaos and eldar as they pwn all but 'crons are the best starting army cos they dont die very easily and kill others very easily

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i would go with necrons, i love their fluff, but other then necrons, maybe Imperial gaurd or space marines.

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out of those 4 'crons are best for starters but orks are probably the best overall due to their huge numbers and CC prowess

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We do have a hell of a large amount of these threads, where people have said their 'opinions' about every single race. I'm going to keep this one open, but also keep and eye on it.

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If you want an interusting and chalinging army (sorry i cant spell) go for Dark Eldar i started them and there fun , and an archon with a 2+ Invunerable save and power weapon is nasty

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yeah they are challenging but are being redone vcery soon

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get da 'crons, day da bestest, just afta da orkzez o' course, we got 'nuff fans 'ready, we dontz need tau un' 'nid collectorz likez you

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when i said starter army i meant a hq and 2 troops choices, not that im just starting to colleect it

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Chaos, 1 commander blister and 1 box of chaos marines for two squads

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the commander should be a chaos lord in termi armour, cos a)they look good, and b)they are good

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Yeh, dose termy lordz is OK, but our mekz un' warbossez is bestest! Dunno why i'm talkin' in orkzez speak when mez called 'cron guy

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because my dear necron friend, we cant technically talk, so we are forced to mimic others. ..... * skins some one and makes them into pants * darth, i would go with 1 necron battle set and a lord, then if you want, get 2 flayed ones and have them act under the indipendant character rule. ( i was going to do that so i might beat the crap out of a friend who has the tau, but decided not to get the flayed ones based on how much money it was in the first place. )

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you should get two squads of orks (1 X 16 slugga boys 1 X 16 shoota boys) as well as a warboss woth three mega armoured nobs.

add 3 killa kans, e dreadnought and a land raider as well as those troop choices over again

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How would you get rules for a looted land raider?

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in the ork codex it gives rules to loot imperial tanks, use same stats, ork upgrades and only move 5/6 of the time properly

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Oh, cool, but I bet they aren't that good in a battle,much better collecting necrons, they CAN hit a barn dooor (unlike some races) and are hard to kill

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I'd say start out with chaos marines as your starter army Darth,because chaos marines don't truly have any weaknesses to speak of,and their most basic troop is as solid as some other armies' elite units.Orks are actually an expert's choice in my opinion,because getting into CC when you have practically no shooting backup at all (a BS2 shoota boy isn't a very reliable now is it) can be tough,even with tons of units.Another thing that makes it a tad harder is that orks generally have low armor saves,meaning you probably won't even get an armor save roll for half your troops.

Necrons are also misunderstood as a starter army just because their units have a good profile and have the We'll be back! rule.But it's not so,as their tiny initiative of 2 means most of the time units that are fast and have power weapons,such as bloodletters,can tear into a 'cron army in no time flat without careful planning.Flayed Ones and Wraiths are good and all,but with most necrons only having 1W and no power weapons,it's hard to take down marines and other armies without great coordination between your units' attacks and shots.Because what good are units that can theoretically never be killed if they can't kill anything themselves?

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good point...

Necron_guy thinks - so thats why I lost all the time with them

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there weapons are good as they get a lot of shooting and theyre special rule means that their basic troop can take out a land raider if give enough time, and necrons last so long they will get that time, pariahs, flayed ones and immortals all pwn marines and heavy destroyers rip through them like a knife through ho butter

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But if your army is reduced to 25% of the starting size at any point in time you lose.And necrons aren't much tougher than marines.Besides that,a necron has to be within 6" of another model to repair itself,and it's only on a roll of 1,2, or 3.

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yeah but necron players will generally learn aftyer a few games to cluster troops together or get a ressuerction orb to get back up. plus I2 doesnt hurt that much, orks have I2 and they are a CC army. for the crons they shouldnt allow CC to happen except with the few CC units they have which are resilient enough as it is. and they can easily cut a swathe into the enemy with firepower and if CC is forced the units will be so small they generally will be able to hold on til backup (e.g. a necron lord) arrives

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Erm......only 3 necron weapons that i know of have anything higher than AP5.I'm not saying necrons are insanely hard to play with,but marines cut through necrons a hell of a lot faster than crons cut through the marines.If i remember correctly,only scarab swarms and the necron lord actually have more than one wound,and if you fail the roll to revive a necron you don't get another chance,he's just flat out removed.Besides,the gauss effect really only helps against vehicles and wraithlords,because when you roll a 6 against troops all it does is automatically wound,the unit still gets it's armor save.

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yeah but i still think necrns are good, go fr 3 squads of ten warriors in 2000pts and build up two lords and some destroyers and immortals around it (or a monolith but they are more for intimidation then points:effectivceness) and you can pwn marines. plus if you have a monolith and teleport mthe unit they get another get back up roll

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Only three weaapons with lower than AP5 (considering they barely have any weapons anyway) isn't really that bad, only the lord and scarabs with more than one wound, are we forgetting the tomb spyders and c'tan here? And just for the sake of it the lord can have a psyclactery which (if he rolls a six) can bring him back with all three wounds. so there.

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The C'tan is another HQ choice and he costs quite a bit,but i guess that's beside the point.I'm just saying that other armies generally have better weapons for dealing with heavy armor than necrons.

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Cloud rulez is right about necrons not being able to kill anything. But no1 has mentioned eldar yet. Are they any good?

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hey are awesome in every way. but you need eithet starcannon spam(which will make everyone hate you) or skill to pull them off as they have one task units and low armour saves

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A person i once gave a lot of praise to had a very skilled set-up for his Eldar army.It was a unit of Banshees,2 reaper squads,a starcannon support platform,and a few striking scorpions.At first i thought i could mow him down before he got to me,but he used his farseer's powers like a true pro,keeping most of his banshees from dying (which i of course aimed at first) and having his reapers pound on me.I lost by a slim margin in the end,just because he managed to keep enough of the cc units alive to barely beat my squads.

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what race were you, 'cos then we'll know not to collect them before eldar

Post 1: I think that this is out of eldar and chaos. Like Cloud said, chaos dont really have a weakness. But Eldar have strong weapons and psychic powers, and the avatar with WS 10.

Post 2: I might go for chaos coz i got a friend who has a megaforce and he will sell it to me for £10.

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10 pound is a very good deal. I myself am a chaos player, and that would be a fantastic bargain.

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However, I have a problem there: I aint going to have £10 for a long time.

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If you are strapped for cash, why are you going to start another army?

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because i have finished with tyranids and tau

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Only 10 pounds for a megaforce?!!I say steal that money from someone then buy it right away,because that's the best deal i've ever seen in my entire life(not joking!).

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youre friend is either stupid or dying

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He just doesnt want it anymore, though I agree. (I think hes dying!):lol:

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id pay himtwice that

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he was going to give it to me for free:)! but he changed his mind:bawl:

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still a fool

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true. hes is a bit crazy

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noone sane would sell that for £10

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Ok, we get the point. It is a good deal. Drag the thread back on topic please.

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Go orks cos they are the most fun to play, but as you have played tyranids maybe they wont be. I dont think you will get much out of warhammer if youve done tyranids and tau cos you should of mastered close combat and ranged combat. I hate marines and necrons to play cos they are boring, they can deal with everything, a good marine player is pretty much unbeatable. Assault termintors can kill pretty much an entire army of orks, they strike first, orks dont get a armor save and the best invuln is 5+. But saying that orks are fun to play cos its hard, as are dark eldar.
Iv played with most armies by just borrowing peoples stuff. Close combat armies are more fun cos you are in control of the battle if you know what i mean. Whereas if playing marines you just stand back firing til nothing is left standing, im sure lots of people like that (afterall there are onl 18 trillion marine players) but personally i like to get up close and personal and tear them apart.
I would say go orks or eldar as they are very different armies, both require good strategies to do anything with. Orks make up for the eldars fragileness with masses of green where as eldar make up for the orks clumsiness with units which can kill with ease, rather than battling a long, dirty battle where you will lose lots of men.
Basically orks are the Soviets of the second world war, overrunnin postitions with man power, where as the british would be more of the eldar, didnt give many men to the war (compared with others), but used intelligence (like deciphering the enigma codes) and had good ranged weaponry (well they had bombers like the germans did anyway). Marines are more like the nazis of world war 2 with there...we have everything and it is very difficult to beat us.
No offence was meant by that to anyone, but thats how i see it, so pick what you like best.

tyranids were the most fun for me, coz of their close sombat speciality.

Im going to go with chaos, as they seem to be the best out of the four i mentioned. Sorry about the double post.

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As you have decided what to collect next, a lockage is in order here I think. Yes. I think it is.




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