the Imperium v.s. Tau
 

I do rember some talk about this already but i want to know what ever one thinks. I really dont like the hippocritic tau, for the greater good please thats a friggin cover phrase. At least the imperium comes out and says there going to kick your but, for the emperor is why. I also heard that the tau are getting really big in the gaming world. Spilting into empires last i heard. what it comes down to is who would destory the other.

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If the imperium focused on eliminating the tau they would destroy them.
However the tau arn't all that big a threat compared to chaos, tyranids and orks

BTW, the Tau were almost destroyed by the imps during a campaign, but were saved by the Tyranid attack on the imperium

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soooooo the tau do win battles against the imperium and vice versa but the difference is tau always fight generally the same while the emperors glorious armies are many and varied meaning the imperium would defeat the tau if the had a black templar crusade force and more but they would probably get slaughtered by the tau if they only had a couple regiments of guardsmen and the idea that the tau werent a threat.

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the imperium of man is invincible! this foul three eyed scum are but a blemish, on the holy FROCK that is the emporer! and we! his servants, shall use the DIVINE CLEANING AGENTS and DESTROY the foul BLEMISH! in one holy strike!

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if u guys have a pic of the segmentum solar u'll see the imperials are the least of the tau's problems, to the east... BEHEMOTH.
as for TT thers hype around the tau cos of the new codex (due out in the next 2 months)

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Well such things are wast seeing as the tau only planet tha\ey come from is not far from some tyrnid infested planets why should the imperium care i mean the tau are'nt attack em so why bother when some one else might take the tau out,mabe the nids or orks since there superrior in cc then the tau and have greater numbers.

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tau r a lame excuse for a race, they r pathetic in close combat and compared to some ranged weapons they r ok... the imperium would win, easily they have millions of millions of souls willing to die in His name plus arnt the tau separating in to smaller...empires? plus the tau will also be kept busy be the tyranids, oh yeh! marines have wiped em out 3 times in a row!

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i say imperium win coz they have the tuffest race of all the 41st milenia. the space marines and theres hundreds of chapters and each 1 has 100,000,000 warriors excluding dreadnoughts, heros and vehcles with heros and vehicles probably 100,000,000,000.

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1 problem with the maries is the fact there scattered around the universe eg the marines r fightin nids of macragge. raven guard r busy doing great extermintas on the tau.

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Tyranids are the only ones who are gonna win in the end, they are infinite. It's just another galaxy to them, they've already devoured hundreds if not thousands before.

But Imperium > Tau.

Use the edit button btw.

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yeh but the oher galaxys didnt have uber humans capable of even more destruction than the nids so the nids are gonna struggle.

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The Nids are endless, humans aren't, that's it. There's only gonna be one winner in the end. Even the orks could kill off the imperium, if they would but concentrate their efforts instead of fighting each other.

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nids arnt endless orks maybe but nids all u have to do is wipe out the hive fleets and the norm queens of each fleet

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also the marinesall u need are apothecaries to bring em back by simply replacing the gene seed.

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Nids ARE endless. Sure you can wipe out the ones in this galaxy, but more will come, always. Nids are effectively the only ones who can defeat orks, as they destroy all life on planets, including ork spores, no other group could do that because they need the planetlife to survive, except chaos, but they dont have the manpower or the resources.

Marines take years to develop, and it's something like every 1 in 20 that survives the process of transformation, gene seeds do not grow quickly enough to increase the population of marines against their death ratio.

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alrite, tau don't suck, sure the imperium has 836918569831598513579 soldiers, and sure the marines have uber armour, but i collect tau for the tabletop game and lemme tell you, i have whooped nids, orks, marines, gaurd, necrons AND chaos berzerkers... the tau do suck in close combat but they aren't exactly easy to kill... during the Nimbosa crusade, there were 4 space marine chapters fighting the tau, FOUR!!! as well as bazillions of gaurd. anyways, about the tau spliting into different "empires" i haven't heard anything about that but there is a "rebel" faction of the tau, led by Commander O'Shovah... thank you for listening to my speech about why tau are not the pushovers u guys think they are

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YA, TAU just plan suck they a sooo bad in combat and r only good on open boards unlike the imperium witch have alot of veriaty i hve beat tau with my armys every time ived played them

P.S ozone i bet u have never whooped nids in a battle enless it was on open board

the FurtherFarSeer

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alrite, believe what u want but i have beaten nids on a board with lots of cover, all u have to do, is get crisis suits and stealth suits pop out and gun those pesky termagaunts down, and then u set your fire warriors and broadsides up 6 inches from the table edge, that way u won't be in combat in the first turn

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Where ever you go 100,000,000 warriors each is an interestiong question considering in the codex astartes it states that a chapetr should be have 1000 battle brothers, including the scouts of the tenth company, yet the tenth company may be larger than the standard 100 man company for the purpose of rucruiting. Also ther are roughly 1000 chapter as of the 26th founding in 738 M41.

But even those thousand marines are more than a match for any force that may out number them many times over. Oh yeah the imperium has the Titan Legions and well they pack a real punch and a half.

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i still got money on the imperium, the fact is tau suck and GW knows hensey there making a new codex, Tau r just too awfel to be in the world of 40k!

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yeah, well, at least the tau aren't the only shitty army *cough*dark eldar*cough*... the imperium prolly would win but i think it would be close

ya dark eldar suck when in the hands of a noob but if used well watch out!
i sure an experenced dark eldar player would beat a tau player
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Fact: Tau are the only 40k army that do not have a mirror image in the Eye of Terrior

well i think tau have no combat skills cept for an ethereal but otherwise they suck at combat and that is a major weakness, and thats y the imperium would win

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no doubt, however, what is the armour svae of dark eldar? 5?, and whats the armour pen of a pulse rifle, burst cannon and bulse carbine, 5? i dunno i think its all in the dice

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but do you have any idea how hard it is to kill those hive ships? if you have read the warriors of ultramar, it says that they are over three kalometers long with armor as thick as any starship, plus billions of bioships willing to block any torpedoes sent in their direction. that is all.

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I agree with you there mate! Sure the tau are rather bad at fighting, but they've got enough (decent) firepower to obliterate most of the opposing army before getting into combat.

I read a white dwarf battle report long ago (few years) that pitched tau against space marines (salamanders) in a cityfight mission. you'd think the space marines would hammer the tau because the amount of cover would work against long range firefights (plus they're bad in combat)?

Wrong, the Tau absolutley wiped the floor with the space marines! massed short-range pulse carbine shooting, crisis battlesuit reinforcements and a whole bunch of angry kroot packed into a small space.

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What about orcs, necrons and trynids? none ot theme are in the eye of terror are they?

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The reason the Space Marines lost, was due to the chapter fighting :nodding:

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it alll depends on the dice rolls, its absically 40% tactics 60% dice rolls, if u are having a really shitty night you could get pwn3d... by anyone

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That I think anyone can agree with however anti or pro Tau they are.
Never played against Tau or Necrons. And glad of it. They both just honk a bit too much of cheese for my tastes.

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if u can get in close with tau, its over... necrons on the other hand....

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The Tau definately have disadvantages. If they lose the Ethereal they get morale hosed. The sniper drones units only need to lose the spotter and their nothing more than fancy targets. And they still suck in h2h. And all the nice toys cost points and deplete troop numbers.

And yes. Necrons. hmmmm.

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Well ive never perzonally played or fought tau on the feild of battle but my friend virtually wiped them out using asdruebal vect and incubi ( yesss he has dark eldar cus hes a freak) in CC with the mobility of raiders dark eldar beat the tau in a cleanse mission , if your a good player, . Also new tau units like the vespid are making them stronger . And to all those tau haters out there dont hate tau cus imperium is much better , men have been around for 40, 000 years , hence warhammer 40k , and tau are like babys give 'em some time to grow

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the imp would have squitted the tau many years ago if the fleet sent to destory the tau homeworld didn't get lost in the warp

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I've used Tau in TT before and it was me agaisnt 2 SM armies(1500pts.)(before the new codex and new people) and I destroyed them. By the time they made it to me they had barely any people left and then I just had my kroot finish them off in CC.

Also, I've used SM agaisnt Tau(only armies I haven't used are the IG WH and Chaos) and I beat them without giving them a second look(figure of speech) so it could really go either way.

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when you were playing the 2 sm armies did they walk towards you? or did the clever thing and use vehicles and Dsing

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One walked towards me and the other stayed back with vehicles( I focused on the vehicles and managed to kill them kinda easily, might have just been the dice that night).

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I dunno avout this un. I voded for the Imperium, but it is a little unfair. The Tau are a new race compared to the Imperium, they Imperium has many different armies (e.g Space Marines, I.G, Deamonhunters ect) so it is pretty lopsided.

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the imperium all the way.but at GW there was a battle tau vs. imperial guard and the tau slaughtered the imperial guard. it was pretty sad the tau kid nocked out the other kids tanks, ordance, and half of his infantry in the first turn with his hammerhead tanks. bad spelling.

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Going against the flow- Tau!

Superior technology makes them amazing. Plus, if the imperium commited all their forces in attacking tau, all their other enemies would swoop in and crush them.

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excuse me OZONE673 i played a quick battle on TT other day to see who wud win 10 SM with bolters or 12 fire warriors with pulse rifle...SM won! Tau all died and the SM only lost 3 men! becus i dnt kno tau rules i thought that the pulse rifles were 6 strength 4AP and i let the tau off with sum rolls to hit on sum of the last turns i dnt even bother to roll to hit with the tau just 2 give em a chance....oh and btw... they do suck :) oh and the imperium / humans have lasted over 43,000years Tau are only 6000 years old!

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i would vote for tau but it says i voted but i haven't

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Imperium hands down the tau have firepower but if the imperium (space marines,deamonhunters AND witchhunters) get amongst there ranks they'll get slaughtered

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not to mention the guard

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yeah it would be the imperium but only for man power, but the tau dont suck, they just play differently to other armys, jsut because they dont fly in n stab people with pointy sticks doesnt mean they suck, the fact is that a full tau army set up for barrage is one of those few moments where you generaly feel sorry for your army.


and space_marine, it is all about the dice rolls, but thats the main difference in why a firewarrior is 12 pts and a space marine is 15, also the tau rely on multiarm combat, all the units working together to coodinate the best attack

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Imperium> Tau

Forces Imperium is willing to send to fight Tau< Tau

^^ 666
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Imperium because its freakin crazy to see a Land Raider storm in and waste 12 fire warriors by its self with 10 marines inside. (ive done it)$

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I vote for the Imperium, but only because of superior numbers. Given the fact that the Imperium could never mount a truly full-scale war against just one of its enemies (with its military forces being spread thinly throughout a vast galaxy), the result of any actual conflict between the two sides would be more uncertain.

I don't hold with all this "omg Tau sux0rs" crap.. They're a decent part of the 40k universe, and can hold their own in the game. You may well have wiped out 84 firewarriors with your 20 super-duper elite bugs or whoever, but that's not the army list's fault; it's invariably down to the guys commanding the armies.

OK, the Ordo Xenos would totally get involved, but why would the Ordos Malleus and Hereticus be in? The Tau are not a psychic race, and don't present a daemonic hazard.

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I think it says in the DaemonHunters codex why they would fight Tau. either because...

1) The Tau commander is possessed.
2) They have stumbled upon a chaos relic and it is tainting them.
3) They have boarded a chaos hulk and are trying to reactivate the warp drive, flinging thousands of daemons into real space.

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Ah yes, it's the same in the Witchunters codex. But those reasons are there so that Daemonhunters players aren't restricted in their choice of opponents.. It's very doubtful that GW would incorporate large-scale storylines based on those same reasons into the overarching fluff.

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Tau can't be possessed by Daemons, they're not psykers.