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Old October 24th, 2007
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Note the word CHARACTERS YES AN RPG COMBAT.

jedi knight is an action/adventure/puzzle
those puzzles are damn annoying.

like you go to some terminal and you can battle other people or something.
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FPS games have characters too. That doesn't make them RPGs. If your game is all combat and no story, it's not an RPG.
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Of course, too much story just fugs up the game. Second Sight, anyone?

"OK, I'm playing an amnesiac with psychic powers. Oooh, a flashback! Aw wow, I was part of a military operation! Oh, so now I'm looking for this other psychic ex-marine... OK... er... right... I know what my mission is, why are you telling me again? Skip, dammit, I've already seen this ten minute long cutscene. Come on, I wanna play a game, not see a movie! Awww... hell with this."

And thus, I rest my case.
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duh,

i meant its an rpg by itself, but at one point in kotor 3 you could go to a terminal and battle other people but thats pretty much it maybe chat with them, you still have to contiune the main story line ALONE.

lol that makes me think of a Halo MMO but thats stupid lol character race: grunt Special move: cower in fear -99 attack dmg.

btw: the only games that E.A made good IMO is battlefield, sim games and LOTRBFME (Lord of the rings battle for middle earth) and the extremely long title, and sports games. which IMO is the 2nd least type of played game.
LOTRBFME2ETWOTLK

Lord of the rings Battle for middle earth 2 expansion, the wrath of the lich king. ?? too much.

games with mostly un-skippable long cutscenes that are RPGs

Final Fantasy and others
but not all of them are bad some are atcually really good.
IMO: 7,8 10 and 12.
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Odsidian said they would love to do kotor 2 if lucasarts wants to but obisidian needs to really improve from the game kotor 2
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Hey!! I did like Masters of Teras Kasi!! It did have a good storyline!! well... sort of... you know, the whole thing about Arden Lyn recovering from the strange... uh... trance induced during her battle with... er... Awdrysta Pina... and how Darth Vader hired her to capture Luke Skywalker... Surrre... it was a... little low on the gameplay dep... but still... uh... Ok, it was a lousy excuse of license exploit, but hey!! It is cool to get Skywalker beat his future wife with a lightsaber!!

Oh!! And the Jedi Knight series are cool!! Kyle's ordeal links directly to the Battle of Ruusan!! His return on Jedi Outcast was quite good, having neglected the Force, the final level was simply amazing at its time!! Dozens of Jedi duking it out in the praxeum!! Bwsshh!! Bwshh!! Though I wouldn't exactly call it a PvP, it certainly gave you a close-as-it-gets feel... Didn't like Jedi Academy's storyline, though... nor the game itself...

Anyway, It is good to know Bioware is holding sweaty palms with EA, cause now I want them even less to have anything to do with any Star Wars content. This brings me hope for the next KOTOR...

Say, it could be something like Monster Rancher, right??

Ok, ok, no need to get aggressive...
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From what I remember at the bioware's site they said they gave an MMO project to the kotor team not make a kotor 3. whoever makes it let's hope they are going to make it great .
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Ok what everyone has said is "Ah god, i hope they dont make another star wars MMORPG they screwed that up." Well guys i hope you remember it was not lucas arts that screwed up star wars galaxies. IT WAS SONY!!! SONY SONY SONY!!!! Lucas Arts barley pays attention to the game anymore, sony is the production company that comes up with all the updates!
Now as this not being a reliable source i found this article on wookiepedia so i find them very reliable
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LucasArts probably has to okay any big changes. But you're right. I've been barking about Sony for years.
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Now as this not being a reliable source i found this article on wookiepedia so i find them very reliable
With all due respect, wikis are no more reliable than their sources. Since a wiki can be edited by anyone with just about anything, you shouldn't really consider it reliable unless the source is also reliable.

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LucasArts probably has to okay any big changes. But you're right. I've been barking about Sony for years.
Actually, you'd be surprised how little involvement LEC had with Galaxies. Basically, if it didn't have to do with storyline(s) involving major movie characters, they simply didn't care.
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With all due respect, wikis are no more reliable than their sources. Since a wiki can be edited by anyone with just about anything, you shouldn't really consider it reliable unless the source is also reliable
Actually, i found the article In the news section which only admins can edit.
I use to play Star Wars Galaxies. I don't know if anyone knows about the kaadu leveling glitch, but people were doing it on the server and sony would just kill them all even if they were afk. Several times they've ruined the game and they just continue to piss off players.
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Something is definatley going on

30th October official press release

Source - Lucasarts and Bioware Corp. To Develop Ground-Breaking Interactive Entertainment Product - Press Release (before today this site re-directed to BioWare: Welcome to BioWare, whois domain servers show as NS1.BIOWARE.COM & NS2.BIOWARE.COM)

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SAN FRANCISCO, CA and EDMONTON, CANADA — October 30, 2007 — LucasArts and BioWare Corp. today announced that they have entered into an agreement to create an interactive entertainment product. The product, details of which will be unveiled at a later date, will be developed and published by BioWare and LucasArts, and will push the boundaries of the gaming market by utilizing the strengths of both companies to deliver an innovative, high-quality experience.
“LucasArts has a deep commitment to developing compelling stories and characters for the unique medium of interactive entertainment, and we have been searching for a developer that shares this value. We found this in BioWare,” said Jim Ward, president of LucasArts. “Through our previous collaborations, we know that BioWare has an impressive ability to blend gripping stories with technological advancements, and we believe that our upcoming product will deliver an experience that will span the traditional boundaries of video game entertainment.”
“BioWare’s mission is to deliver the best story and character-driven games in the world, delivering powerful emotional experiences to our fans.” said Ray Muzyka, chief executive officer, BioWare Corp. Added Greg Zeschuk, president of BioWare Corp., “The collaboration with LucasArts allows us to combine our passion for creating high quality and innovative experiences with those of a company dedicated to bringing only the finest games to market.
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As Inyri said before that bioware is owned by EA yes that's very but EA only makes EA games it's just like as if Bioware is turning into EA LucasArts should do it with Obisidon now since bioware is about out of the question except if they were going to make a K3 with Obisidion then they should have started a long time ago maybe in 05 and finish in 08 then they will have a finished FISHINED K3 but know all this Bioware crap is not true Bioware has no intention to finish the kotor series so LucasArts should get someone else unstead of laying on thier ass

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30th October official press release

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This is very true I have read about this so something is happening but it's not kotor but I really hope they don't get into kotor because they will make it like Galaxies because Bioware hates kotor because of what Obisidon did
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bioware was bought by ea but has not taken effect yet so whatever bioware chooses to do till they merge with ea is their label- and lordjedi how do u know it does not deal with kotor? - it makes sense it is the final kotor installment or atleast an mmo
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This is very true I have read about this so something is happening but it's not kotor but I really hope they don't get into kotor because they will make it like Galaxies because Bioware hates kotor because of what Obisidon did
No, Bioware doesn't hate KOTOR.
It helped make them lots of money. (But not nearly as much as Lucas Arts.)

As for what you say Obsidian did to KOTOR.... blame Lucas Arts.

KOTOR was under development for a long time, whilst TSL was started not long after the release of KOTOR.
TSL went Gold, and was shipped out worldwide after less than two years which left the game in a state that is shocking. At the behest of Lucas Arts.

2 patches later, and many things are still buggy and some not fixed when they were supposed to be.
Combine that with the fact that Obsidian were not given the chance to continue providing technical support in the form of further patches to address the many bugs left over.

KOTOR itself has bugs and cut content, though to a lesser extent than TSL does.


As for KOTOR III...... Who knows if it will be Obsidian or Bioware?
Not anyone who posts on here before an official announcement, that much is certain

What is extremely likely is that whatever Bioware and Lucas Arts is working on, will be SW related.

For all we know, it could be a new RPG, or even dare I say......
SW:Galaxies 2

Which wouldn't really bother me, so long as they did it right, and improved upno what worked in Galaxies.
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