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Darth Dracon May 2nd, 2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mellow321 (Post 4306661)
May I bring up what I think again,for the fifth time(i think),that Mira's dad is a canibol/murderer that is strong in the force, but not a jedi.the mom was some random partner in crime

No you may not. Now sit in the corner and play with this thermal detonator.

You are such a :newbie:

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Originally Posted by Revan91 (Post 4319371)
Wow, sucks to be you. :p You do have a point, but I think that may have been one of the reasons KOTOR 3 isn't out yet. Lucas Arts wanted to give us time to think up stuff. :lol: Nah, I'm still in the boat that her dad was a soldier of some faction when she was captured. It doesn't really make sense for her parents to be of mandalorian descent if she was captured by them.

I don't really think that this is a reason that the game is not out yet. About a year and a half ago I read a release from Obsidian or someone that said that LucasArts hired a new manager and that he fired the KOTOR development team and put a halt on developing KOTOR III, which the programmers were in the process of writing. Maybe that's why TFU is coming out now. Maybe this ass clown wanted to focus attention back on the Original Saga. Cool, ok, but this numbnut needs to give us what we want.

I say if KOTOR III isn't released by 2009, we all meet at LucasArts HQ and storm the friggin building.

The Crusader May 2nd, 2008 01:05 PM

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:lol: Replace George Lucas with Lee Chee, and ban Lucas from Star Wars.:banplz: From now on, it'll be known as CheeArts!:rofl:

SirTwist May 3rd, 2008 09:34 AM

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As to the identity of Mira biological father, well, not sure. But her mother, doesn't matter. One of the parents was a Force user. Mira was born Force sensitive. As to her "true" father that Kreia alludes to, well, I think he was one of the more famous Mandalorians, and that he was a really good hunter.

*Off-topic* Anyway, George Lucas is done with the Indian Jones movie. So, it is possible that once themovie is released to the public, soon, and that he is probably starting working on the next Star Wars movie.And the next Star Wars game.

Darth Dracon May 5th, 2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Revan91 (Post 4327981)
:lol: Replace George Lucas with Lee Chee, and ban Lucas from Star Wars.:banplz: From now on, it'll be known as CheeArts!:rofl:


LMAO!!! NICE! :lol:


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Originally Posted by SirTwist (Post 4328823)
As to the identity of Mira biological father, well, not sure. But her mother, doesn't matter. One of the parents was a Force user. Mira was born Force sensitive. As to her "true" father that Kreia alludes to, well, I think he was one of the more famous Mandalorians, and that he was a really good hunter.

*Off-topic* Anyway, George Lucas is done with the Indian Jones movie. So, it is possible that once themovie is released to the public, soon, and that he is probably starting working on the next Star Wars movie.And the next Star Wars game.

DO I REALLY NEED TO SAY THIS AGAIN?!?!?!:Puzzled:

Lucas is DONE filming SW movies. He has stated that he had a story to tell and that he has told that story. Now that is why he is working on the animated Clone Wars to fill in that 2 year gap and that is why he is filming a live action SW TV show in the years between Episodes III and IV. That's 20 years, at least) of history that we know little about.

But he's not going to make anymore 'movies' on SW. Oh, believe me, I wish he would make more like a KOTOR movies series or a New Republic movie series like 500 years after Luke Skywalker, but we all have our dreams and Lucas has finished his.:bawl:

Dream on. Dream on.

SirTwist May 7th, 2008 08:54 AM

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Find, and watch the interviews between Leonard Maltin and George Lucas. Unless George, himself, has had enough of Star Wars, then, soon, there will be another movie. There wasn't supposed to be another Indiana Jones movie, but there is. So, George has already started work on the next Star Wars movie, as in scripts, and tentative casting. It was always GL's intention to make 9 movies. Unless he was lying in that interview, then there will be another movie soon. It could be the announcement of the tv show maybe to throw everyone off, and he may make the movie instead. He is devious like that.

Fyurii May 7th, 2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SirTwist (Post 4333977)
Find, and watch the interviews between Leonard Maltin and George Lucas. Unless George, himself, has had enough of Star Wars, then, soon, there will be another movie. There wasn't supposed to be another Indiana Jones movie, but there is. So, George has already started work on the next Star Wars movie, as in scripts, and tentative casting. It was always GL's intention to make 9 movies. Unless he was lying in that interview, then there will be another movie soon. It could be the announcement of the tv show maybe to throw everyone off, and he may make the movie instead. He is devious like that.

Lucas contradicts himself over "a great many things", but Indiana Jones is different from Star Wars, in that it's not just his baby, but Spielberg's as well.
Indiana Jones IV had been talked about by both of them for much longer than the Prequel trilogy.

The one thing that Lucas has spoken of consistently when it comes to future SW films, is that the current Saga is all about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.
His only concerns with the future of SW so far as his direct involvment are the upcoming Clone Wars series, and The Force Unleashed.

The only place in the world that actually gives credibility to a third SW trilogy being made that covers events post RoTJ, is on a site that is so atrocious for its lies that it's matched only by the delusions of grandeur of said site's creator...

Supershadow.
Never has there been a greater proliferator of lies, theft, and sheer derangement than this C**T!

JCarter426 May 7th, 2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyurii (Post 4334109)
His only concerns with the future of SW so far as his direct involvment are the upcoming Clone Wars series, and The Force Unleashed.

And the other TV series. ;)

Darth Dracon May 7th, 2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fyurii (Post 4334109)
Supershadow.
Never has there been a greater proliferator of lies, theft, and sheer derangement than this C**T!


Oh how I agree with you. As a matter of fact, here is my reply post from the Death Star Thread that Speer put up asking who is the most powerful Jedi.

[I'm going for Kaja Sinis, he founded the Jedi. quote]

:wtf::dropsjaw:


Oh no! Speer, are you actually getting your Star Wars Info from that ass clown SuperShadow? I can not believe that you are that dumb to listen to a guy that claims he's Lucas' best friend and lies about everything under the sun. This guy should be run through with a lighsaber. He's been debunked. He claimed that he was the Jedi fighting Anakin in the temple in the holorecording in EP III. That was Nick Gallard playing Cin Drallig, not his creation of Nebar Foxis.


Here's an excerpt from Star Wars Wookiepedia:

SuperShadow's claims and fanon creations

In his and "Lucas"'s replies, Suttle often mentions characters, events and other in-universe entities that do not actually exist in Star Wars canon and are not mentioned in any published works. Besides the aforementioned Nebar Foxis, a Jedi allegedly played by SuperShadow himself, notable creations of Suttle include Kaja Sinis and Darth Scarz (who are said to be the first Jedi and Sith, respectively) and Grentarik, Yoda's alleged homeworld, among many others. He also gave names to some characters who only have one name in canon, such as Dantius Palpatine, Jard Dooku, and Yoda D'kana. Suttle also has staited that Jango Fett and Boba Fett are merely bounty hunters and have no real connection to the mandalorians. ___________end quote__



Kaja Sinis? Darth Scarz? Scarz? Are you kidding me? The first Sith?

This guy is full of it.

The fact that you are stating this brings up the question of what else have you been posting that is canonically wrong.

Please, I beg you, verify your sources before posting.

__________________________________________________ _________________________________________________

It's douchebags like SuperShadow lying to us that pissess me off, especially when forum posters quote the crap he spouts and declare it to be canon.

OH HOW I HATE THAT.... Please, please, please, I beg you all, verify your sources before you post it!!!!!!

Fyurii May 7th, 2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JCarter426 (Post 4334269)
And the other TV series. ;)

Of course, many thanks for the reminder JCarter!:)

Darth Dracon May 8th, 2008 03:12 PM

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Hey, don't forget the ANIMATED CGI Clone Wars Movie due out this fall!

Clones are many, yes! Jedi, too few are we. Hmmmmm! Too clouded, the future is. Blocking the light, the dark side is.

JCarter426 May 8th, 2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Dracon (Post 4335681)
Hey, don't forget the ANIMATED CGI Clone Wars Movie due out this fall!


That's just the first episode of the Clone Wars TV show. They're airing it in theaters and calling it a movie in order to trick you into giving them your money. :p

Darth Dracon June 4th, 2008 02:59 PM

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Of course they are. How else does Lucas expect to keep out interests alive without any movies, any Obi-Wan, any Anakin or any Yoda?

caleb919 June 9th, 2008 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by EpicLoad (Post 3928094)
Mira was of Mandalorian birth, and she lost her family at Malachor, so I'm going with either Canderous, if she doesn't know or Mandalore during the Wars.

yeah because out of the total of millions of mandalorians it has to be THE one thats traveling with you. im guessing your just saying that because you only know of two mandalorians

Granyaski June 17th, 2008 10:14 AM

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very very weird post here
darth Sion?
doesn't seem to have much around him
People are making asumptions that Kreia knew her father and that he 'died'on malachor 5
he is force sensitive(duh!)and well he is a predator

VERY HIGHLY LIKELY THAT IM WRONG

Darth Yojrad June 26th, 2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by reddragon200023 (Post 4039534)
this might be completely wrong, but I don't think that Mira's father was a Jedi or a republic solider I think it was Calo Nord because Kreia says that “Mira was not meant to be a hunter despite her true father” and the only person we know to be a great hunter in the game is Calo Nord. I know it seems a bit farfetched, but I think this was something that was intended to be put in the missing content, but never did. I really wised that they had finished the game before releasing it then we wouldn't have all of these holes in the story line it sucks big time.

Calo Nord couldn't be the father cause Revan killed him AFTER the Mandalorian Wars, so thats impossible since her perents did supposably.

Darth Yojrad June 26th, 2008 10:51 PM

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Well here's a thought, maybe her parents DID die on Malachor 5, it's not that crazy...

Fyurii June 27th, 2008 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Yojrad (Post 4404990)
Well here's a thought, maybe her parents DID die on Malachor 5, it's not that crazy...

They did.
Mira even says so.

The Crusader June 27th, 2008 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Yojrad (Post 4404990)
Well here's a thought, maybe her parents DID die on Malachor 5, it's not that crazy...

Precisely. Therefore, Calo Nord would'nt be an accurate choice.

SirTwist June 27th, 2008 10:34 AM

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I just had a thought, after watching the original Star Wars trilogy. What if, and this is a what if, Mira's parents were "killed" like Anakin Skywalker, Or at least one of them. Mira does mention that the Exile, whether male or female, is old enough to be her parent. Anyway, I'm NOT, repeat NOT, saying the Exile is her parent. I am saying that it is possible that her father was "killed" and is still around.

NiRv4n4 June 29th, 2008 11:47 PM

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You don't listen to yourselves type. The game says that she was taken a slave by the Mandalorians, not born of one. Her parents could have been any human, as unless Mandalorians raid their own worlds, her parents couldn't be Mandalorian.

The Crusader June 30th, 2008 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NiRv4n4 (Post 4409594)
You don't listen to yourselves type. The game says that she was taken a slave by the Mandalorians, not born of one. Her parents could have been any human, as unless Mandalorians raid their own worlds, her parents couldn't be Mandalorian.

For all she knows, her father IS a Mandalorian, keeping it hidden from her. We've already been over that topic.

Fyurii June 30th, 2008 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Revan91 (Post 4409816)
For all she knows, her father IS a Mandalorian, keeping it hidden from her. We've already been over that topic.

Hmmm, perhaps some dishonoured and outcast Clan from long before the Wars....

Yeah, I know that's about as likely as Lucas creating a supremely annoying character to take people's minds off of how whiney Anakin was... wait a sec'!:lol:

NiRv4n4 June 30th, 2008 11:23 AM

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I don't see why that of all the people in the galaxy, her parents have to be a mandalorian that we knew closely.

Fyurii June 30th, 2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NiRv4n4 (Post 4410164)
I don't see why that of all the people in the galaxy, her parents have to be a mandalorian that we knew closely.

Her biological father doesn't have to have been Mandalorian at all, as opposed to her "adoptive" family.

Her father was probably just some "joe smith" who had an over-enthusiastic interest in hunting and killing, but wasn't necessarily some A-hole sociopath (or even as someone else wanted him to be, a cannibal).

Given what little we currently know about Mira's history, we literally have nothing beyond wild speculations.

Ḷëģöläš June 30th, 2008 05:23 PM

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Yah pretty much all we know is that her father was some hunter/ assassin... maybe Hk-47 !

Darth Dracon July 3rd, 2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fyurii (Post 4410527)
Her biological father doesn't have to have been Mandalorian at all, as opposed to her "adoptive" family.

Her father was probably just some "joe smith" who had an over-enthusiastic interest in hunting and killing, but wasn't necessarily some A-hole sociopath (or even as someone else wanted him to be, a cannibal).

Given what little we currently know about Mira's history, we literally have nothing beyond wild speculations.


Whats wrong with sociopaths?:Puzzled:

hankabo July 5th, 2008 05:21 PM

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Maybe, just maybe her father was Yusanis, the father of the handmaidens, and the Echani general.

Her father was technically a hunter, craving for battle, and hunting to find his favorite wife Arren Kae.

Also, he seems to have made children with many women, one being a jedi, so possibly, the jedi-genes may have been in him, and he could've been with some random woman and had Mira. Its just speculation....

What do you think? :confused:

Fyurii July 5th, 2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hankabo (Post 4419290)
Maybe, just maybe her father was Yusanis, the father of the handmaidens, and the Echani general.

Her father was technically a hunter, craving for battle, and hunting to find his favorite wife Arren Kae.

Also, he seems to have made children with many women, one being a jedi, so possibly, the jedi-genes may have been in him, and he could've been with some random woman and had Mira. Its just speculation....

What do you think? :confused:

So you're saying she's Brianna's sister.....?
Despite being a red-head?

hankabo July 5th, 2008 06:26 PM

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Well, like I said, he did other women. SO maybe she resembles her MOTHER. Like how Handmaiden resembles her MOTHER!!!! =PPPPPPP:cya:

The Crusader July 5th, 2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hankabo (Post 4419290)
Maybe, just maybe her father was Yusanis, the father of the handmaidens, and the Echani general.

Her father was technically a hunter, craving for battle, and hunting to find his favorite wife Arren Kae.

Also, he seems to have made children with many women, one being a jedi, so possibly, the jedi-genes may have been in him, and he could've been with some random woman and had Mira. Its just speculation....

What do you think? :confused:

As creative as that idea is hank, I don't think it's quite possible. Yusanis was never married to Arren. And he didn't crave for battle. He was Echani, not a Mandalorian.

JawaJedi July 6th, 2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hankabo (Post 4419357)
Well, like I said, he did other women. SO maybe she resembles her MOTHER. Like how Handmaiden resembles her MOTHER!!!! =PPPPPPP:cya:

This bugged me with the Kreia-Kae arguement too. It just doesn't make sense that the parent of the same gender isn't Echani and the rule still aplies, if their geneology is compatible with (normal) humans. But thats just me I guess :uhm:
Personally I just believe you guys are coming up with crazy theories that hold no value and honestly Mira's parents are just a bunch of no name humans and they'll stay that way. That's why I stayed out of this topic till now.

The Crusader July 6th, 2008 09:52 AM

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If Mira's father was really a no-name, Kreia probably wouldn't have even bothered mentioning him, JawaJedi.

Fyurii July 6th, 2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Revan91 (Post 4419473)
As creative as that idea is hank, I don't think it's quite possible. Yusanis was never married to Arren. And he didn't crave for battle. He was Echani, not a Mandalorian.

Yes he was.
It was another one of those secret marriages, with a child born in secret.
Arren Kae was exiled when the Jedi Council found out about the marriage, and their child.

The Crusader July 6th, 2008 12:20 PM

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Oh. Okay. He was married to Arren. :D
But still he went to be with her, not because he hungered for battle.

JawaJedi July 6th, 2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Revan91 (Post 4420332)
If Mira's father was really a no-name, Kreia probably wouldn't have even bothered mentioning him, JawaJedi.

OK. Even if he's not a no name, I'll we really know is that he died at malachor. (didn't Yusnis get killed personally by Revan? Or did he die at malachor- I can't remember I've been playing to much fire emblem >.>)

Fyurii July 6th, 2008 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JawaJedi (Post 4420637)
OK. Even if he's not a no name, I'll we really know is that he died at malachor. (didn't Yusnis get killed personally by Revan? Or did he die at malachor- I can't remember I've been playing to much fire emblem >.>)

Nah, Revan killed him.... like a bitch.

JCarter426 July 6th, 2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Revan91 (Post 4420332)
If Mira's father was really a no-name, Kreia probably wouldn't have even bothered mentioning him, JawaJedi.

If his name mattered, she would have mentioned it.

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Originally Posted by JawaJedi (Post 4420637)
...is that he died at malachor

We don't even know that. It was Mira's Mandalorian family that died there. When Kreia says "her true father", she could either be referring to the Mandalorians, or to her biological father. I'm inclined to believe it is the former, but there's no way of knowing.

The Crusader July 6th, 2008 07:04 PM

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He has to play some role, or she wouldn't have even bothered mentioning him anyway.

JCarter426 July 6th, 2008 07:55 PM

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Nah, he was only mentioned in passing. He's as important as the nameless Jedi who showed Atton the Force--dead.

Fyurii July 6th, 2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JCarter426 (Post 4421284)
Nah, he was only mentioned in passing. He's as important as the nameless Jedi who showed Atton the Force--dead.

Pretty much.
Kreia mentioning him seems more like a way of showing how Mira wasn't meant to turn out, to not be a "predator" like her father was.

The Crusader July 6th, 2008 08:22 PM

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Then that is the future we must accept. :D

Fyurii July 6th, 2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Revan91 (Post 4421306)
Then that is the future we must accept. :D

That wasn't her future though.
Hers was to die many years later, giving her life that others may live.
Not exactly the outcome of a predator's life, now is it?:p

tr000 July 8th, 2008 01:53 PM

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miras father is cassus fett

he's a mandalorian
he's a bounty hunter
he probably has a wrist mounted rocket, like miras (well, jango did)

he fits perfectly

Fyurii July 8th, 2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tr000 (Post 4424753)
miras father is cassus fett

he's a mandalorian
he's a bounty hunter
he probably has a wrist mounted rocket, like miras (well, jango did)

he fits perfectly

As a surrogate father figure?
He certainly wasn't her biological father, that much is known.


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