Mira's father (spoliers)

[JCarter426]

I can't believe I just thought of this after all this time...

When Kreia says "She was not born to be a predator, despite her true father and the life she led within the shadow of Nar Shaddaa", couldn't she simply be referring to Mira's adopted father, the Mandalorian?

I doubt Mira would consider her biological father--whom she never knew--to be her "true" father. And she survived on Nar Shaddaa by using the skills she had learned under the Mandalorians.

[SirTwist]

I have a few questions. First, how long did the Great Sith War take? Second, how long did the Mandalorian War take? Third, how much time between Mandalorian War and KOTOR? Fourth, how much time between KOTOR and TSL? Knowing this information will provide me with some basis for the happenings in both KOTOR and TSL.

There is one thing that sticks in my mind, about Mira, though. Playing the female Exile, in a conversation with Mira, she says that you are old enough to be her mother. I think, playing a male Exile, she says that you are old enough to be her father, but I don't remember. Anyway, I will be back when I have played enough to put that to rest. As well as having some answers to the questions I posed at the beginning of this post.

One thing before I go, and that is this. No matter who the parents of Mira are, one of them was still a Force user, for her to become a Jedi at a late period of her life.

[The Crusader]

I think the Great Sith War took place over a span of five years. The Mandalorian Wars were about 4. The Jedi Civil War 3, and 5 years between KOTOR and TSL. Mandalorian Wars ended 2 years before KOTOR. Or was it 4?...

[Fyurii]

Originally Posted by SirTwist

I have a few questions. First, how long did the Great Sith War take? Second, how long did the Mandalorian War take? Third, how much time between Mandalorian War and KOTOR? Fourth, how much time between KOTOR and TSL? Knowing this information will provide me with some basis for the happenings in both KOTOR and TSL.

There is one thing that sticks in my mind, about Mira, though. Playing the female Exile, in a conversation with Mira, she says that you are old enough to be her mother. I think, playing a male Exile, she says that you are old enough to be her father, but I don't remember. Anyway, I will be back when I have played enough to put that to rest. As well as having some answers to the questions I posed at the beginning of this post.

One thing before I go, and that is this. No matter who the parents of Mira are, one of them was still a Force user, for her to become a Jedi at a late period of her life.

Great Sith War (Exar Kun + Ulic Qel Droma)= 40 years before KoTOR.
The Great Sith War lasted for 4 years.

Mandalorian Wars= 20 years before KoTOR (However, Revan and the Republic weren't involved until the final eight years of the wars.
The Senate refused to intervene against the Mandalorian's aggressions in the outer rim territories until they invaded Republic Space.)

Jedi Civil War (KoTOR) = the events of KoTOR take place 5 years before TSL.

[The Crusader]

Originally Posted by Fyurii

Great Sith War (Exar Kun + Ulic Qel Droma)= 40 years before KoTOR.
The Great Sith War lasted for 4 years.

Mandalorian Wars= 20 years before KoTOR (However, Revan and the Republic weren't involved until the final eight years of the wars.
The Senate refused to intervene against the Mandalorian's aggressions in the outer rim territories until they invaded Republic Space.)

Jedi Civil War (KoTOR) = the events of KoTOR take place 5 years before TSL.

20 years, are you serious?

[JCarter426]

This is precisely why I've typed up a timeline.

4,000 BBY: Great Sith War begins.
3,996 BBY: Exar Kun imprisoned on Yavin IV.
3,986 BBY: Ulic Qel-Droma killed on Rhen Var.
3,976 BBY: Mandalore the Ultimate begins his campaign along the Outer Rim.
3,965 BBY: First skirmishes between Mandalorians and Republic begin.
3,963 BBY: Padawan Massacre of Taris. Mandalorians invade Republic proper.
3,960 BBY: Battle of Malachor V; Revan and Malak begin invasion of the Republic.
3,957 BBY: Capture of Revan.
3,956 BBY: Battle of Rakata Prime (KOTOR 1)
3,955 BBY: Revan disappears into unknown; Sith Civil War.
3,954 BBY: Sith Triumvirate formed.
3,952 BBY: Devastation of Katarr; Kreia exiled.
3,951 BBY: Battle of Telos (KOTOR 2)

(some of this is guesswork on my part)

[SirTwist]

Ok, according to the time lines here, I have something to bring up. Revan was born sometime during the Great Sith War, as was Malak, the Exile, and Bastilia. Mira's father was also born about this time. Mira, though, wasn't born until about the first skirmishes between Mandalorians and Republic. I believe that Revan, and the Exile, could have known her parent, that gave her the ability to use the Force, eventually. Notice I did not say that they were her parents. Just that is was someone they knew. Someone either they were padawans with, or even a little older, than they were. However, I will say this, one of Mira's parents was still a force user. Possibly someone who fought the Mandalorians. Not sure if it could have been Revan or the Exile. But still a Force user.

[JCarter426]

Originally Posted by Member 187047

Ok, according to the time lines here, I have something to bring up. Revan was born sometime during the Great Sith War, as was Malak, the Exile, and Bastilia.

Uh, no. The Great Sith War ended forty years before KOTOR 1. Bastila was only in her twenties, and Revan, Malak, and the Exile were around 30 by my estimate.

[thejadefalcon]

Sorry for going slightly off-topic, but I've only got back online after a month and Inyri's last post confused me.

Originally Posted by Inyri Forge

She neeeever said that :lol:. From the way she made the statement I rather inferred she and Anakin's father were simply not on speaking terms. I assumed perhaps she'd been raped or somesuch. Maybe his father is Watto?

Originally Posted by thejadefalcon

Yes, she did.

"Who was the father?"

"There was no father. I carried him, I gave birth, I raised him. I don't know how it happened."

(Or something like that).

Originally Posted by Inyri Forge

Congrats on proving my theory that kids your age have an attention span the size of a peanut. Go back to me post and see which part I bolded.

Is Inyri saying that Anakin was or was not concieved by the force, because those statements seem contradictory.

[JCarter426]

I think the point Inyri was trying to make was that Shmi never said that Anakin was conceived by the Force.