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Darth Dracon March 24th, 2008 09:12 AM

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Good Point, Fyurri. Damn Good Point.

The Council would have had to grant her Knighthood in order for her to teach at an Enclave and to take on a Padawan. So the Exile was alrady a Knight when she went to join Revan.

And perhaps the Exile was the only Jedi left with the ability to make wounds in the Force after the destruction at Malachor V. Maybe the Mass Shadow Generator augmented her natural ability to create Force Bonds and she shut herself off due to the horror she wrought there.

JCarter426 March 24th, 2008 09:25 AM

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And perhaps the Exile was the only Jedi left with the ability to make wounds in the Force after the destruction at Malachor V.

Don't forget Nihilus--unless you buy into the theory that they're one and the same. ;)

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Maybe the Mass Shadow Generator augmented her natural ability to create Force Bonds and she shut herself off due to the horror she wrought there.
Well, it didn't have anything to do witht he MSG (all that did was wreak havoc with Malachor's gravity well). It's explained towards the end of K2 that being bonded to so many Jedi that died so quickly forced the Exile to cut herself off from the Force, as you said.

But how did we get on this topic? :confused:

SirTwist March 25th, 2008 05:50 PM

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Actually, I think that Mira's father could be either Revan or Malak, depending on if Revan was a male or female. And Kreia could easily have been one of Revan's teacher, both on Dantoonie, and after he, or she, fell to the dark side. I also think that Kreia is much older than she appears. I am not sure about Darth Nihilus, myself, quite yet. I think that Nihilus is the embodiment of the negative aspect of the Exile, after Malachor V. Or even someone we haven't seen, yet. I don't know, I don't have a feel for Nihilus, yet.

The Crusader March 25th, 2008 06:27 PM

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Well, Revan is a guy and the Exile is girl, so base you future assumptions upon those outlines.

JCarter426 March 26th, 2008 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SirTwist (Post 4275569)
Actually, I think that Mira's father could be either Revan or Malak, depending on if Revan was a male or female.

Revan couldn't have been either one of Mira's parents, simply because if that were the case, Mira's genes would be severely screwed up. :p

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And Kreia could easily have been one of Revan's teacher, both on Dantoonie, and after he, or she, fell to the dark side.
She was...Kreia was Revan's first and last master.

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I also think that Kreia is much older than she appears.
She's actually much younger than she appears. :p

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I am not sure about Darth Nihilus, myself, quite yet. I think that Nihilus is the embodiment of the negative aspect of the Exile, after Malachor V. Or even someone we haven't seen, yet. I don't know, I don't have a feel for Nihilus, yet.
Darth Nihilus didn't exist until after Malachor, at which point Mira would have been a teenager. Whoever Nihilus was before Malachor might have been Mira's father, though, but I highly doubt it, since they're generally considered two different individuals (as noted in the game, that Nihilus "died and was reborn" at Malachor).

Fyurii March 26th, 2008 07:36 AM

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She's actually much younger than she appears. :p

She is?
Has her age finally been "set in stone" rather than an approximation based on one person's etimation?

JCarter426 March 26th, 2008 07:47 AM

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No. But he was head of development... :p

Fyurii March 26th, 2008 09:58 AM

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No. But he was head of development... :p

But what he says is not fact, only what he intended.
Aside from which, he also implied that she mightn't be around that age but could be older or younger.

At the end of the day, it falls to Leland Chee and his people at the Holocron to decide her actual age.
Since they haven't "gotten their finger out" and done something about it, we are just left with an ambiguous statement that is so often half qouted by many to suit there own view on the matter.

Ultimately, LA dropped the ball on that one as well...... F***IN' BA*****S!

JCarter426 March 26th, 2008 10:39 AM

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Yeah, I know. But still, there isn't any reason to think Kreia is older than she appears, especially since (at least) one of the developers thought of her has much younger. But enough of that...

As I hinted at earlier, Revan couldn't be Mira's mother or father. Why not? Well, for one thing Revan would have been around ten at the time of her birth. :naughty: And Revan could be either male or female in K2. Just think about that for a few minutes. ;)

Fyurii March 26th, 2008 04:09 PM

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Yeah, I know. But still, there isn't any reason to think Kreia is older than she appears, especially since (at least) one of the developers thought of her has much younger. But enough of that...

As I hinted at earlier, Revan couldn't be Mira's mother or father. Why not? Well, for one thing Revan would have been around ten at the time of her birth. :naughty: And Revan could be either male or female in K2. Just think about that for a few minutes. ;)

Please tell me you're hinting at the gender errors in dialogue despite choosing one gender over the other at the beginning.......


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