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Congrats on proving my theory that kids your age have an attention span the size of a peanut. Go back to me post and see which part I bolded.

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All of the sources I've seen said that Plagueis created Anakin. Not through sexual intercourse, but by some other technique. How else would Anakin be so powerful. Eventually when Sidious learned of this, he murdered Plagueis and eventually took Anakin as his own apprentice.

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What sources state it as a fact?

As far as I'm aware, it hasn't been canonised as anything more than a story told to Anakin by Sidious to further his manipulation and control over Anakin.

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Not necessarily fact, but theory. If we get too serious, I guess we could write to Lucas and see what he says. :lol:

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Originally Posted by JCarter426 http://forums.filefront.com/gamingfo...s/viewpost.gif
Well, Kreia is 50 at the time of K2. Check her DOB and DOD Kreia - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki. Yeah, I know...go figure...

Anyway, it's almost certain that Obsidian planned for her to be Kae. The main evidence is that Arren Kae was Revan's first and last teacher, and so was Kreia, and also Mr Avellone's comment "Sorry, can't comment--but good catch."

But back on the topic of Mira...once again, we'll probably never know.
Kreia's age being 50 is not confirmed.
Chris Avellone said she might be around 50, but it's not known for sure.
It was just something to further the mystique surrounding her life.

As for the main "evidence" of Kreia being Arren Kae......
The game has alot of conflicting things throughout the dialog that weren't sorted.
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THANK YOU FOR THAT. KREIA IS NOT 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What if Mira's father was actually Admiral Saul Karath?

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Him or General Darren. That would be a good idea!
Carter, Kreia told us that she was Revan's first and last teacher, yes. But where does Kae factor in? There was no mention of Kae ever training Revan. The only thing that was said about her at all besides being Brianna's mother is that she was a beautiful and skilled warrior under Revan's command.

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How'd we get back on Kae? :confused:

Anyway...

And I invite anyone interested to read my extensive overview on the topic: Knights of the Old Republic - The Movie Trilogy -> Kreia and Arren Kae .


Now, back to Mira...

Wouldn't she know if her fahter was General Darren or Admiral Karath? And I got the feeling that her parents were killed by Mandalorians, or enslaved like her but sent elsewhere.

And even if he joined the Sith, I wouldn't call Karath a "predator". Sure, he slaughtered millions, but he was doing that under orders from Revan and Malak, and even their reasons weren't really "predatory" either.

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Bah. Mical the Disciple. Do you know what I hear whenever he opens his mouth? "Bullsh*t Bullsh*t Bullsh*t Bullsh*t Bullsh*t." But I guess that's better than not being able to get anything out of someone except "Yes General?" Mical's probably the #1 reason I hesitate to play KOTOR 2 as a female. Maybe I was mistaken. But Kreia is as probable to be Revan's first master out of any other. Dorak, Zhar, Kae ... (... meaning SO ON.) If that's the case, Kreia could be anybody.
But let's just agree to disagree, and wait for KOTOR 3. Maybe Mical did say something useful.

I sort of have the impression that Mira didn't know her parents at all, (or barely knew them) But maybe a Sith officer isn't subtle enough to be her father. That would make sense.

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Well, he wasn't stating any particular order, mind you. Zhar tought Revan last, actually (in K1). And he says that Kae tought Revan as a padawan during another conversation. But enough of that...

Yes, Mira probably didn't know her parents, but that's probably because they weren't really notable. If her father was Karath, on the other hand...

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He did.
He was the one party member other than Kreia and HK-47 who tells the Exile about the strange pattern of tactics Revan employed during his campaign against the Republic.

-Leaving industrial and military targets largely intact and operational.
-Obliterating other planets and areas to create similar wounds in the Force such as what was present at Malachor V.
-That his creating more wounds in the Force would have made converting Jedi that much easier.

He also tells the Exile that she was meant to have been the Jedi who was to train him as a Padawan, which was put on hold indefinitely after she left to go fight in the Mandalorian Wars.
Which pretty much goes against her being only a Padawan whose Knighthood was not by the Council but by Revan during the conflict.