FileFront Forums

FileFront Forums (http://forums.filefront.com/)
-   SW:JK3 Modding, Mapping and Editing (http://forums.filefront.com/sw-jk3-modding-mapping-editing-528/)
-   -   Rosh to JKO (http://forums.filefront.com/sw-jk3-modding-mapping-editing/410553-rosh-jko.html)

Ty294 October 26th, 2009 10:28 AM
Rosh to JKO
 
Hey can anyone convert the Rosh model from JKA to JKO? I can't do it cause I don't have JKA and besides that I know nothing about the models.

AshuraDX October 26th, 2009 10:42 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
ah .......
why the hell would you want rosh in JKO ?
he's just annoying not more =/

spior October 26th, 2009 11:11 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
:D um i don't think it's nessesary cuz i use jk2 models in jk3 without any conversions :P.Just extract the rosh model,npc,shader etc. ,put all of them in a pk3 and put it in your jk2 folder :)

Ryojin October 26th, 2009 11:13 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spior (Post 5050534)
:D um i don't think it's nessesary cuz i use jk2 models in jk3 without any conversions
You mean jk3 models in jk2, right? I mean, that's what's being asked for here...

Inyri Forge October 26th, 2009 11:15 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spior (Post 5050534)
:D um i don't think it's nessesary cuz i use jk2 models in jk3 without any conversions :P.Just extract the rosh model,npc,shader etc. ,put all of them in a pk3 and put it in your jk2 folder :)
That will absolutely not work. Going from JK2 -> JK3 is not the same as going from JK3 -> JK2.

minilogoguy18 October 26th, 2009 11:21 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
^It may work, I found out that the base models are rigged to the same skeleton as JO uses its just the gla file for JA doesn't include the bones that JO has but the model itself has them.

spior October 26th, 2009 11:31 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Inyri Forger it will work!!!For the first ever time me and minilogoguy18 are on the same mind :P.I am just toooooooo lazy to wait for the jk2 torrent to be finished and instalation shit bla-bla...just try and it will work :)

AshuraDX October 26th, 2009 12:06 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spior (Post 5050556)
Inyri Forger it will work!!!For the first ever time me and minilogoguy18 are on the same mind :P.I am just toooooooo lazy to wait for the jk2 torrent to be finished and instalation shit bla-bla...just try and it will work :)
boy...... forget the torrent
just get the game from e-bay or something it wnt cost much money
it's a old game
I'fe paid about 6 € for my JKA on E-bay so forget the torrent :
A. it's illegal
B. getting the game from E-bay might be the faster way

Mikouen October 26th, 2009 12:16 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spior (Post 5050556)
Inyri Forger it will work!!!For the first ever time me and minilogoguy18 are on the same mind :P.I am just toooooooo lazy to wait for the jk2 torrent to be finished and instalation shit bla-bla...just try and it will work :)
http://i34.tinypic.com/fd7i2f.png

Noxious October 26th, 2009 12:24 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikouen (Post 5050646)
I don't know whether thats meant to be funny or it proves that that thing is just really annoying o.O

Ryojin October 26th, 2009 12:41 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Oh my, look what happens when I take spior's advice:

AshuraDX October 26th, 2009 12:44 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
^ouh....... thats gotta hurt :lol:

Ryojin October 26th, 2009 12:49 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
You know what? I think I'll try playing through the game like that. Wonder what the cutscenes will be like... XD

AshuraDX October 26th, 2009 12:59 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
make sure to take some screens of that :lol: or record a vid if possible
man I really gotta find my JKO CD !

Inyri Forge October 26th, 2009 12:59 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by minilogoguy18 (Post 5050543)
^It may work, I found out that the base models are rigged to the same skeleton as JO uses its just the gla file for JA doesn't include the bones that JO has but the model itself has them.
The skeletons are different. This doesn't pose a problem with JO-JA transfers, but it does with JA-JO transfers. This is why the model will look like what Ryojin posted. When I say something will absolutely not work it's because I know for sure (usually because I've tried it).

Ryojin October 26th, 2009 01:01 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Rosh in JK2 - Xfire Video

Oh god, it's so funny! Sorry 'bout having no sound, but I don't have it set up for that right now and couldn't be bothered doing it for this.

AshuraDX October 26th, 2009 01:08 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
ROFL ! :rofl:
thats freakin hilarious !
probs this would make a nice POTD with some editing ? :lol:

Ryojin October 26th, 2009 01:34 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Here's a better one, with more to it: Attacks of the Broken Models! - Xfire Video

This one has three different people like that now... I think I might move as many characters over as I can, see how that turns out... XD

PANIC98 October 26th, 2009 01:38 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
ow my god that looked like adam sandler in that movie where he gets hit in the face with a shovel

Ryojin October 26th, 2009 01:41 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PANIC98 (Post 5050781)
ow my god that looked like adam sandler in that movie where he gets hit in the face with a shovel
Little Nicky? I don't see the resemblance myself...

AshuraDX October 26th, 2009 01:44 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
hell !
it's hilarious :lol:

Ty294 October 26th, 2009 02:11 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
I remember someone saying that the model has to be "reweighed". Does anyone know what that means?

minilogoguy18 October 26th, 2009 07:40 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Spoiler:
About Envelopes

An envelope is an object or hierarchy that is assigned as a “skin” to a set of deformers such as IK chains. Envelopes move and deform in response to the movements of their deformers. In this way, for example, a character moves as you animate its skeleton.
Every point in an envelope is assigned to one or more deformers. For each point, weights control the relative influence of its deformers.
The process of setting up an envelope is sometimes called skinning or boning.


Taken from the XSI 6.01 Advanced help file



Meh I thought it would work but I guess not.

General Jaxun October 26th, 2009 07:52 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Wow. That rosh model looks... Ow.

Ty294 October 27th, 2009 09:36 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by minilogoguy18 (Post 5051249)
Spoiler:
About Envelopes

An envelope is an object or hierarchy that is assigned as a “skin” to a set of deformers such as IK chains. Envelopes move and deform in response to the movements of their deformers. In this way, for example, a character moves as you animate its skeleton.
Every point in an envelope is assigned to one or more deformers. For each point, weights control the relative influence of its deformers.
The process of setting up an envelope is sometimes called skinning or boning.


Taken from the XSI 6.01 Advanced help file



Meh I thought it would work but I guess not.
Okay, does anyone know how to do that?

Erstok October 27th, 2009 11:53 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Reweighting the model with the old JK2 skeleton is the only way it will work in JK2.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/psykopat/tuts.html

The_CrY October 27th, 2009 12:14 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryojin (Post 5050775)
Here's a better one, with more to it: Attacks of the Broken Models! - Xfire Video

This one has three different people like that now... I think I might move as many characters over as I can, see how that turns out... XD
Heh they look like zombies, Jan's very brave to kiss that... Kylish thing

Ty294 October 27th, 2009 05:40 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erstok (Post 5051723)
Reweighting the model with the old JK2 skeleton is the only way it will work in JK2.

Psyk0 3D Tutorials
Ok, now I don't wanna sound lazy, but I can't do the conversion myself, for a number of reasons. Does anyone wanna do it for me?

(It'd probably be a big hit if you released it on JKfiles... ;))

Ryojin October 27th, 2009 06:12 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Why can't you do it yourself?

Ty294 October 28th, 2009 07:18 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
#1. Don't have the time, I've got one mod to finish, a story on Star Wars Fanon to finish and lots of RL projects. #2. I don't have the Rosh model, so some one would have to give me that anyway. #3. Alot of mod tools don't work on my computer. I have a 64-bit system (while nearly all other comps have 32-bit) and my Battlefront tools don't work and most of my JK tools don't either. I can do skinning and such but no mapping.

Edit:
Sorry to double-post, but if nobody is gonna do it can someone at least pakage up the Rosh model (sounds an shaders too) in a zip so I can try myself?


Edit:
Ok, I don't want to bump it any more so this will be the last time. Now, can someone just upload a zip with the Rosh model and sounds? I'll do the converting.

Inyri Forge October 31st, 2009 04:13 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
LucasArts has made it pretty clear they don't approve of sound porting between the two games.

General Jaxun October 31st, 2009 05:24 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Which is all kinds of stupid, because THEY did it.

Inyri Forge October 31st, 2009 05:27 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
They own the rights to the sounds. They can do whatever they want with them. You don't own the rights to anything. You can only do what they let you. See the difference?

Ty294 October 31st, 2009 07:34 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
I've seen sounds and models ported between games. For example: In the Star Wars Battlefront series, modders have ported all sorts of models and have even done conversions from one game to the other. I've seen mods that ports sound effects from Republic Command to Battlefront1 and JK2 as well. Now, Battlefront and RC are both done by pandemic, whist JK2 is done by Raven, but transfers from JK3 to JK2 should cause a problem since they (and I'm just assuming) are both Raven.

Inyri Forge October 31st, 2009 07:35 PM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
The LucasArts legal affairs department has specifically told us that porting sounds between the two games is off-limits. They don't care about maps or models, however.

Ty294 November 1st, 2009 08:21 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
Fine, but can I at least have the bloody model?!?!

edeholland November 3rd, 2009 06:28 AM
Re: Rosh to JKO
 
I loved that second video, especially the line 'some day you're gonna have to teach me how to do that'. And from 3:24 to 3:30, Desann's jaw movements are soooo funny! Also, at 2:55, it looks like his heart beating.

Attacks of the Broken Models! - Xfire Video


All times are GMT -7.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.