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I'm impressed, although considering who did this maybe I shouldn't be.

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Originally Posted by sithlord6 (Post 4989007)

I'm impressed, although considering who did this maybe I shouldn't be.

you should be; he's actually planning on finishing and releasing it.

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With new and tocuhed up animations, so a such a good representation doesn't have a VMvader cape.

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Why are people thinking he made the model in the original post, I seriously doubt he did, I think he's saying he made the person who is in the picture in the first post (in the quake 3 engine)

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No, I'm pretty sure he made that model.

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It would be impossible and a waste, not that much detail can be had in the quake 3 engine, I see no reason why he would bother making that much details.

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he probably made it more of a "cuz" reason than anything.

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It would be impossible and a waste, not that much detail can be had in the quake 3 engine, I see no reason why he would bother making that much details.

THE ENTIRE GAME WOULD JUST EXPLODE! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

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Maybe he made it for something else? I mean... JK3 isn't the ONLY game out there, and no... I don't think this model could be used in anything besides CGI rendering ATM, but the one we're getting, if you missed it. because you -never- read the entire post, is much lower poly, and STILL ass-kickery defined.

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I doubt it's that high-poly. One of the more refined arts of high-end modelling is optimisation, after all. Things aren't always what they seem, and being able to do more with less is a treasured skill within the industry.

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Yes it is. But regardless, Almighty_Who did make this.

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I know he made the Revan model that he posted rendering pictures of in the previous pages. My argument still rests about the first picture. Just to clear up people saying "O.O that is like the greatest model ever made you are like god but in digital form!"

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That first picture is from ZBrush3, its the programs default red clay shader, it's the same model as in all of the pictures. He built the low poly in 3ds max and brought it into zbrush for all the fine sculpting details. Authuran, I've known Lee (Almighty_Who) for roughly 7 years, he made everything in this thread himself, I saw it before you guys did. He actually made it just cause and then later decided to put it in JA.

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Still... you can understand how people like me can be skeptical of things like that. Right?

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No because you don't model so you don't even know how to spot topology that would match another model to even tell if it was stolen/ripped.

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I go to this forum and expect to see models that look like they were rendered in id tech 3 (which their supposed to be since it's the game engine) I can't see why you don't understand when you post some super advanced ultra render it's going to mislead people.

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The first picture wasn't even a render though, it was just zbrush, a sculpting program. =p

Some of the textured shots were renders but only from a game engine that would allow viewing of the normal map applied to the model that'll be the game mesh. He showed the low poly version but without textures.

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well I honestly can't see the point with this thread..
it's a incredibly model, but it obviously won't go with JKA.
would simply be impossible to weight, atleast regulary.. :rolleyes:

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WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY EVER READ THE ENTIRE THREAD!?!?

The Low-poly model has been created, and it looks marvelous. There's a pic of it already, but it's not done because Almighty_Who needs all of the animations for JKA ever in the game itself, to add cape bones to it, so we don't get a vader VM effect.

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Originally Posted by minilogoguy18 (Post 4989588)

I know he did a low poly one, but to create an extremely high quality model, and then post it here, will just confuse people into actually thinking that the model was for Jedi Academy. I'm done.

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Angry Fanboy Outburst!

But no, this is a cool model =P

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This is exactly why he never does things like this for anybody. People are all like...

"He didn't do it!"

"It's ported!"

"It won't work!"

"What's the point!?"

"Why did you do it?"

These are all things that have been said here, and I just don't get it. He's making us a low poly version, and for god's sake, TRYING TO TWEAK EVERY ANIMATION IN JKA FOR CAPE COMPATABILITY! He's doing this out of the goodness of his heart, and maybe to boost his own ego a little bit, but who DOESNT like to boost their own ego!? I know I do..! It's fine to do, and let's just be honest here...

What has he done to you guys? What has he done since he got here BESIDES HELP YOU? He gave you an anatomy ref, but it was shot down by you, Authuran. He's tried to make this model'n'stuff, but again, you, are questioning it's legitamacy, Authuran.

I like you, Authuran, but give this guy a god-damned break already, would you?

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Ok, here's the list of the animations that would seem to be used in MP (it's alphabetically sorted because of technical reasons):

Spoiler:

Of course, probably a few of those aren't actually used and maybe some are missing, but there's only so much you can do by analyzing the source code.

Also, there are a few animations that would have to be added for NPC support, and others that would be nice to have even though they are not used by the base game (but could be added via the animation features of sab files; e.g. BOTH_CARTWHEEL_LEFT/RIGHT, BOTH_ALORA_SPIN_SLASH, BOTH_PULL_IMPALE_STAB). If you want a list of those, just say so.

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Yes, because someone controls the identies.

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Originally Posted by General Jaxun (Post 4989815)

What has he done to you guys? What has he done since he got here BESIDES HELP YOU?

I don't even know where to begin with that one, but you are right in that under the attitude he usually does give solid advice.

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Well, maybe therewas a time and place where he did things that weren't the best. Maybe he's been an ass.

But why in the world does everyone go asshole strong on the guy, when he's trying to help? Obviously, it's all he's trying to do at the moment. Should he start becoming more of an ass, honestly, I can't blame him because of the way this thread's gone. People constantly doubting his work, even -stating- it wasn't made by him, when clearly it was.

I can't imagine what it's like to be told that I didn't make something I clearly remember making.

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Welcome to Filefront Forums, all we do is blame modellers of LOLSTEALING models here. 1 Rule: Wireframe or GTFO

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I just have to luagh at people who say it is ported. It is not ported because I have the ported Revan model. It looks nothing like this. This is actually better than the ported version. We could actually port his high poly version of the Revan model instead of the Revan KOTOR model so that it is legal. This is the beginning of great new things to come.

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Uhh.. who said it was ported.

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well this is a whole mess of pointless debate
anyway on topic:
Model looks greta nice idea with the cape animations should be intresting to see to say the least

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Originally Posted by N-7 (Post 4989853)

Ok, here's the list of the animations that would seem to be used in MP (it's alphabetically sorted because of technical reasons):

Spoiler:

MUCH LOVE o/!!!!

now, i need to figure out what the abbreviations mean. i'm aware that BOTH = legs and torso together. and i'm sure i can assume that the BOTH_A1 animations are attack set 1 (light stance?) and A2 are attack set 2 (medium?) etc.

don't get me wrong fellas, this is probably going to take a while...

to make statements on past issues/questions: the model i FIRST posted, was a high poly (talking 2.5 million) sculpt in z-brush. to get as much detail as i could without textures.

i then made a low poly (around 7k) mesh, and baked the details down first to a normal, and then to an AO map which i could use for the basis of the textures.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9999/revanr.jpg

NOW, in jka, you won't be able to get the dynamic shading from the normalmap, but the specular highlights and diffuse will be just as detailed. so while it won't look as good as it does rendered in Marmoset, it will still be a cut above the standard.

as for me having a heart? i have several, i collect them, you see...

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You can use ModView to see what the animation for a certain label looks like - just use the "Sequences" branch in the right hand tree view to select one and press the play button (if you do, I'd recommend The Modview Saber - most of the animations are best viewed with an ignited saber attached to one or both hands).

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Also the anim.h file tells what each animation is. That will help with figuring out all the saber stuff.

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as for me having a heart? i have several, i collect them, you see...

This is why Almighty_Who is just plain WIN. That sounds like something Averus would say...

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Originally Posted by General Jaxun (Post 4994868)

This is why Almighty_Who is just plain WIN. That sounds like something Averus would say...

dude, i have a girlfriend who sucks my dick on an almost quarter-of-a-daily basis.

i can also fight my own battles.

can you understand what i'm trying to hint at?

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Yeah, I get it. I just don't get why the hell everyone seems to hate you.

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At the risk of bordering on spam...

LOL!

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So anyway, i'm learning to animate all over again...

not because i forgot, but because i've never animated in XSI. OH JOY!!!!

i'll pimp out some new animations in the next few days.

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Feel free to hit me up whenever I'm online, I'm trying to be better about leaving msn online when I'm not home. =p

But I guess corto would be best and hes always around.

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Originally Posted by Almighty_who? (Post 4999905)

So anyway, i'm learning to animate all over again...

not because i forgot, but because i've never animated in XSI. OH JOY!!!!

i'll pimp out some new animations in the next few days.

Which rig are you using, if I may ask?

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Originally Posted by Authuran (Post 4989495)

Btw, programs like Blender can render out models with no end of kool stuff. You can have automatic normalmaps, ambient occlusion, light diffusion, specular maps, colour overlays, motion blur, distance blur, OSA (subsampling anti aliasing), glow, fog, etc. All not hard to do. So thats why when your making a good version of it you would hit those switches.

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You forgot to mention that the fully loaded shots are going to get taken anyway to go in the modeller's portfolio, so if you got them why not flaunt them a little bit?

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Originally Posted by N-7 (Post 5000260)

Which rig are you using, if I may ask?

well, this is a little more difficult to answer...

i actually have 2 rigs. the first is the base JKA skeleton, with added bones.

the second is my own rig.

i'm going to be using the edited JKA skeleton purely because i can't be bothered dicking around with all the tags and crap needed =/

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And the IK chains, have you set them up yourself?

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If the skeleton is built properly XSI will create the IK solvers itself.

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IK chains are no problem really.

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Ok, I guess I just have to dig into the XSI docs some more.

Another thing, it just occurred to me that the list of animations I posted is rather long. What I actually do have is a file that lists animations per function; and the function names roughy tell in which context the animations are used. If that would be of any help, just drop a word and I'll clean it up a bit and post it.

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that would certainly be easier, knowing animations by functions means i won't have to mess around with random frame numbers.

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Oh my, this is so awesome. If only I still played JKA and could actually play JKA MP... Eh. The modding possibilities with an accurate Revan model not illegal to port is endless.