Re: Need help locating a model maker
 

i'll probably release the malak model for everyone else to butche... i mean texture.

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No, you mean butcher! *desaturates and releases with my name*

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messing about with zbrush - polypaint (gonna bake it down to a texture later).

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5884/wipux1.jpg

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real nice stuff Gir
I wonder how Zbrush breaks the uvmap... assuming it uses that conventional 2d uvmap.
(I'd desaturate the colors, personally never use strong values for anything)

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well, the way the polypaint tools work, is that it colours the polygons to your selected values (so you can see how high poly he is right now... lol)

you bake that information down to a standard 2d UVW map, just like you would do with a normalmap.

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Hey, I have one small favor to ask of anyone who has SR2 (Soul Reaver 2 for the uninitiated). Can anyone get left, right, and semi straight on in game pics of Raziel for me?

Actually, even if you get the shots from Defiance I wouldnt mind. There isn't that many differences facially in either game really.

My SR2 after I found it decided to stop working. And googling pics didnt turn up the shots I was looking for.

So far GiR looks awsome. Kinda wondering how you got the texture of the cloak thingy to look that realistic. It was the look I was going for with the one I'm working on.

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practice makes perfect!

who deleted the pic? :o

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Got Photoshop to work. Forgot I had a copy of the install, and unfortunately in the process got rid of all my previous work. But here's what I was able to do in Photoshop after a couple of hours. It's just work on the face, but I'd like people's opinions.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4184/faceworkhv3.pnghttp://img357.imageshack.us/img357/1...cework2wc1.png

Also, has anyone ever noticed the in game Raziel isn't so blue? He's more of a purple?

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Here's the face and ears done. Spent alot of time on this getting it just right. Although, anyone looking at the map will wonder if I was on crack...but it works.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3587/faceworkci9.png

Based it off this screenshot
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8...aceleftai0.jpg

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The shadows on your texture look too sharp. On the in-game model they look softer and wider. Or maybe that's just me.

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Yeah, they looked a bit too soft for my touch. And honestly, it's all up for interpretation. But thanks for the interest. I'm gonna test it all in game after I'm done.

I'm just wondering though, if it's possible to make a shader for the eyes to make them sort of glow a bit? Or spec map maybe? Or does the GLM need to be recompiled for that?

Also wondering if a shader can be used to make the cloak look a bit more dirty. I'm honestly not looking forward to reskinning that. And like it the way it is actually.

The rest is gonna be ok I think.

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Use texture overlays for the dirt. As for the glow, it's a simple shader (The texture is black where it doesn't glow, anything else where it does glow. The intensity determines the strength of the glow).

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i textured the glow :P

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http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3910/wipcm7.jpg

little update...

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I know you know anatomy better than that gir.

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i know, but raziels anatomy was always fucked up...

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i think it looks really accurate other than the fingers that need to be changed into claws. =p

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And he's missing the two wisps of hair that fall in front of his face hehe.

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Alright, for some reason, I'm having issues opening just the files for Raziel. Soo..gotta delete them and reskin everything.

And while I wait to redownload the PK3, I figured I'd work on another related character.

Here's the Before:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1165/kain5zw1.png

Here's the After:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2541/kain8ri4.png

What do y'all think?

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Did you do anything other than darken the whole thing?

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I can see some slight texture changes and some hue/saturation levels being changed. Other than that, no. I don't see any.

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I added more texture to the face, and redid the gauntlets. I'm actualy not happy with the characters skin. Most of it looks acruate enough, but the tone is all wrong, and there just doesn't seem to be enough texture to it. I'm not done by far no. But I liked the detail enough.

the gaunlets are my own interpretation of the ones he has in game. And I completely redid its texture. If you want I'll post the map.

I'm also having issues reskinning the pants. There's a certain color I want them, but I dont know how to draw the shadows and stuff on darker colored clothes without them looking horrific.

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Most of the original texture is weak, at best. The seems are plainly clear where they shouldn't be and the flesh is unrealistic. I would skin him completely from scratch if you want something of really high quality because the original textures will hold you back.

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Not sure if you're a Legacy of Kain fan or not, but Kain in his later Vampire form - wich is what this model's supposed to be of - has a harder and less human flesh. Granted, I know there's some work to be done, and I'm nowhere near the caliber of you or GiR, but honestly, the detail to the way Kain's skin looks like in game is pretty close. Just the colors are off.
Here's a reference pic:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3909/kain6ke0.png

I do have a question though, is there any way that from this model, I could get a cleaner UVmap? The way they have it laid out is very hard to skin, and just flat out makes no sense. And some areas are horribly stretched.

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Recreate the UVmap yourself in 3dsmax, XSI or milkshape.
You've got a very basic and bright texture.
Try adding some contrast.

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Thanks for the positive feedback. Would doing so mean that I'd have to recompile the GLM? Cause if not, then that'd be great.

Would XSI mod tool work just as well?

Sorry for the plethora of questions, I'm just really eager to get this going better than I'm currently doing. I want to finish a project within a reasonable amount of time.

When I skinned Venom for the Symbiote pack, it took me forever and that wasn't satisfactory of me.

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Now that I think of it, yes that will require recompiling the glm.
Either that or you have to grit your teeth and keep on trying with this one.

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you could use XSI mod tools 6, its the only one of the free to get player models in, i hosted the installer since its down on the softimage site, check the sticky. oh also, i didnt notice before but if your new to it, theres a ton of free tuts and such on the softimage site under mod tools.

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Well normally if this was my model to adjust and such, I'd do that and try to get it in game, and skinned properly. But I'm not sure even if that's allowed so, I'll just go with reskinning, and trying to get the original maker's permission. I can't find their email. It used to be on the pk3's readme I think, but someone deleted it.

Would that include re-weighting the model?

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yeah, theres no glm importer out there that preserves bone weights. the only way you wouldnt need to is if you got the original max file or if you at least got the .xsi file that is used in compiling.

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Just a bit of an update. No pics this time due to PC issues.

I've gotten Kain done to What I was hoping. I've even done my own textures for the chest and such.

Raziel has finally gotten underway again, now that I've gotten everything back up and running correctly.

Unfortunately, my PC is having issues with posting pics so I'm gonna have to wait untill new PC arrives to get that done.