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Mikouen February 13th, 2007 07:34 AM

Re: Hoverboard?
 
That'd mean double the files, therefore double the filesize. =/

Ryo Thorn February 13th, 2007 08:28 AM

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is filesize really THAT much of an issue these days? I mean even a meg or two really doesn't take that long to download, about 20 seconds for me, maybe 5 mins for people with dialup, I'd wait half an hour for the download to go for the support.. but that's just me.

Inyri Forge February 13th, 2007 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The one and only (Post 3533333)
The reason you see no texture in MP is beacuse MP uses swoop_mp instead of swoop. (Assuming you're talking about the board replacing swoops)

Well seeing as how that's not the reason you see no texture...

The reason you see no textures is because the way the customskin section of the VEH for "swoop" is set up is an unrecognized format for MP. Therefor whenever you spawn "swoop" you'll see no texture. This is why swoop_mp exists, otherwise they'd have no reason for it.

There's absolutely no reason I can think of to overwrite swoop_mp, though. The only reason I'm overwriting the regular swoop is for SP. Otherwise the hoverboard is spawnable as its own vehicle (check the NPC file for those of you who have it and you'll see what I mean). So, in short, there is MP support.

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Originally Posted by Ryo Thorn
first off, the new animations don't work

Yes they do. Clear out your base folder -- I'll bet you you have another mod with animations.cfg in it. So if you have any other stance mods, they'll conflict.

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The second issue is that when I loaded t2_trip, the 'default' hoverboard that spawned had no skin on it what so ever
See above. This is the same issue with the normal swoop. I'm surprised you didn't catch that.

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Though I do realize this wasn't designed for MP in the first place
It quite was. The swoop overwrite was an afterthought.

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So that brings me to my third problem which I'm going to have to resolve for myself. Vehicle extentions too big!
That is an issue I've been thinking about. Since so many of you submitted skins, that creates a lot of vehicles. I'll have to see about making some of them optional, or something. Any thoughts on this in particular?

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Originally Posted by Kouen
That'd mean double the files, therefore double the filesize. =/

I'm curious why you think adding MP support would mean double the files... :p

Red Rebel February 13th, 2007 08:41 AM

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Try thirty minutes to an hour for people on dial-up :p I used to have 26.4k and it sucked.

Iny could release an "SP" pack, and an "MP" pack., Or just "SP only" then "SP/MP Combo". Whatever. The point is, people on dial-up have no business playing multiplayer, so shouldn't download the MP version. Unless they are playing solo or LAN or something... bah.


EDIT After reading Iny's post: Oh. Nevermind then. I haven't done much with this game outside of Moviebattles in quite a while, can you tell? :p

Inyri Forge February 13th, 2007 08:46 AM

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FYI, the only difference between "SP" and "MP" for swoops is a .VEH file. My MP .VEH file is 23kb... I can cut that out for dial-up users though! :p

Most of the filesize comes from the skins, which are for SP and MP.

Mikouen February 13th, 2007 08:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inyri Forge
I'm curious why you think adding MP support would mean double the files... :p

Eh, I was thinking of something different. Feel free to ignore me, PHP kills the brain.

(Of course, that runs on the assumption that I ever had a brain to start with...)

Plasma89 February 13th, 2007 09:04 AM

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http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1416/hoverplassq5.jpg

Glow
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6...lasglownk4.jpg

Crossbolt February 13th, 2007 10:41 AM

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You skin looks great plasma. Although I have one suggestion...
On the side of the board, that whole strip does a wraparound. So, if the case of alternating textures like you have, you are going to want it to be one color on one end and the other color on the other end. It would make it look a little better in game.

As for the filesize, maybe release the vehicle, and then a skin pack for all of the ones people have sent in.

Ryo Thorn February 13th, 2007 02:10 PM

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Plasma's board DOES look exelent. Far better than mine if I do say so myself. Also I don't have any stance mods or animation mods of any sort in place except for JK+, which most people have, so that could be a problem on down the road. I'll try moving it out so I can test it properly though. Also I'd have no problems what so ever having my skin being 'optional' and sperate so it won't run up the veh count so much, I'd rather have playability without excessive pk3 removal.

After thinking about it my one winged jetpack mod has an animation change with it, however the irony is I'm not even using it right now... Right, off to check that.

tobias104 February 13th, 2007 02:17 PM

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This looks interesting, I made a skin too. I spent a bit of time on it, but t didn't come out as well as I had hoped. Any chance I could get a screenshot of how it will look so I can tweak it if need be?
http://www.dexarts.com/tobias/hoverboard.jpg

http://www.dexarts.com/tobias/hoverboard_glow.jpg

KitsuFox February 13th, 2007 02:20 PM

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I look at this and ask one thing: Why hasn't anyone done a Back to the Future hoverboard by now?

Looking pretty good, as well. This'll be interesting to have.

Inyri Forge February 13th, 2007 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tobias104 (Post 3533945)
This looks interesting, I made a skin too. I spent a bit of time on it, but t didn't come out as well as I had hoped. Any chance I could get a screenshot of how it will look so I can tweak it if need be?

What exactly is the glow supposed to be?

Mikouen February 13th, 2007 03:12 PM

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Well, it has a circuitboard pattern to it. Go figure.

(Captain Obvious to the rescue!)

Looks like an attempt at a neon tech-grunge effect to me.

Inyri Forge February 13th, 2007 03:18 PM

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You misunderstand. I'm wondering why it's there and why it's glowing.

The One and Only February 13th, 2007 03:48 PM

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Because it can.

Inyri Forge February 13th, 2007 04:03 PM

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Why don't you let the author respond, rather than being a smart alec? :rolleyes:

Eclypse February 13th, 2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KitsuFox (Post 3533950)
I look at this and ask one thing: Why hasn't anyone done a Back to the Future hoverboard by now?

I know photosourcing is the devil around here, but this is actually an insanely good shot, at the very least for reference:

http://www.jhallman.com/bttfprops/pa...overboards.htm

Just thought I'd share, even if I can't skin for beans...yet.

Inyri Forge February 13th, 2007 04:18 PM

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Let me say it once. This mod is not supposed to be the BTTF hoverboard. The model is not shaped properly to be the BTTF hoverboard. Anyone who wants a BTTF hoverboard will have to make their own. Hopefully no one will make me repeat myself on that.

tobias104 February 13th, 2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge (Post 3534071)
You misunderstand. I'm wondering why it's there and why it's glowing.

It was mainly because I thoguht it would look cool if it glowed.. I actually wanted it to pulse, something like this:
Code:

{
        models/players/swoop/myskin/glow.jpg
        blendFunc GL_ONE GL_ONE
        glow
        rgbGen wave sin 0 1 0 0.5
}

That is, if I remember that correctly, I haven't done any shaders in a while.

Ryo Thorn February 13th, 2007 05:34 PM

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I have no useful updates, but after testing it a bit more (Still haven't fixed that animation thing yet, working on it) to all the skinners out there, don't worry too horribly much about the bottom, yes it's visible, yes it counts to make it look good, but tearing your hair out to get cool glow effects and so forth really don't matter, you can't see the bottom THAT often anyway. That's my take on it.

Inyri Forge February 15th, 2007 07:31 PM

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Anyone who wants to submit a skin or beta test needs to contact me soon. I'm looking to release quite soon.

LightNinja February 16th, 2007 12:59 AM

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Hey Inyri, just a small question, I tried to do a hoverboard too like about 2 years ago but I couldn't change the animation of the rider, I didn't know how and I thought this wasn't possible, can you tell me where I was wrong?
You've done a great job there :)

stikk February 16th, 2007 01:18 AM

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Could I beta Test? I did PM you but got no answer, unless it's in my mail, which I have not checked in a few days.

Inyri Forge February 16th, 2007 07:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LightNinja (Post 3538071)
Hey Inyri, just a small question, I tried to do a hoverboard too like about 2 years ago but I couldn't change the animation of the rider, I didn't know how and I thought this wasn't possible, can you tell me where I was wrong?
You've done a great job there :)

Well I quite discovered the same issue, and as a result I've had to work around it. I basically just overwrote the swoop rider anims in animation.cfg. This of course means that the swoop would be totally useless (one reason I overwrite it in SP) but hey, you do what you can... Of course changing the rider stance alone would really be pointless, as every time he moved he would revert back to basic swoop anims. That's probably one reason that function doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by johnpp
Could I beta Test? I did PM you but got no answer, unless it's in my mail, which I have not checked in a few days.

Sorry, but I really don't know you that well and I can't remember you ever doing any modding other than mapping.

stikk February 16th, 2007 07:32 PM

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Nah, it's ok.

Just for the record though, I am not just a mapper. Mapping is my best skill though. ;).

I am sure DataLord knows me. LOL.

-Samurai- February 16th, 2007 09:20 PM

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Inyri I have to say that everything looks great. When you first came forward with the idea, I thought it'd have too many problems to actually work. I sure was proved wrong. Its mods like this that keep me interested in this game. Im also excited to see all the awesome skins. The ones posted on here all look so great.

I've never used a vehicle in JA, but when this is released, Im definately going to give it a go.

Just a few questions: How is the "combat" while using a hoverboard? I want to be able to zip around while swinging at some friends.

Also, if there is a way to modify how fast it turns (I know nothing about vehicles) are you going to change it? I'd imagine people on hoverboards will eventually be skillful enough to turn on a dime.

Inyri Forge February 16th, 2007 09:31 PM

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Well, the good news is you can hit things. The bad news is the range is pretty poor. It's not really any worse than while on a swoop, though. As for turning radius, I'm not sure. It handles pretty insanely as it is, though, but I'll look into it before release.

Really though, guys, this is the last call for skins, so if anyone has a last-minute entree please get it finished this weekend. And do me a favor and let me know you're working on it, so I know not to release without it.

Rage83 February 20th, 2007 03:55 PM

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mmhmm, heres my feeble attempt at skinning it, its a simple skin I guess, nothing uber fancy. Hope i did it right :uhm:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...boardSonic.jpg

Ryojin February 20th, 2007 05:30 PM

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Haha... Hey Inyri... Your readme said that the extra skins and SP replacement for the overboard wouldnt work with the main file... Judging by what my result was:



I'd say that was wrong. :p

Quite amusing to me, though. XD

Inyri Forge February 20th, 2007 08:06 PM

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I thought I said you *had* to have the main file to use the extras. If it says otherwise, it's a typo. It should be really easy to see how it works from the PK3, though.

stikk February 20th, 2007 10:19 PM

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Hmm... Mine is not in there. :(. I will just add it myself. BTW: I love em' Inryi!

The One and Only February 21st, 2007 01:41 AM

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That looks more fun than any hoverboard... Hmm, would it be possible to have a stormtrooper piggy back vehcile? I'm not requesting it, just asking if it's possible to have all the animations for running work properly with it?

Ryojin February 21st, 2007 01:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inyri Forge (Post 3546238)
I thought I said you *had* to have the main file to use the extras. If it says otherwise, it's a typo. It should be really easy to see how it works from the PK3, though.

Yeah, I know... It was a typo. I just got curious about what would happen if I followed that typo, so I did that. I can't say I was expecting to ride a stormtrooper. :p

Great job, though Inyri. The same goes to those whose skins were included.


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