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Lazerbeak August 26th, 2005 09:45 PM
Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
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Seeing how I'm a big fan of Batman, and how Two-Face is my favourite villain, I thought I'd make a skin of him, based on the Indiana Jones model. Anyhoo, I've been working on this one on and off for a few days now, and have gotten pretty far on it. The clothes are made from scratch, save the shoes (which I thought were unnecessary to remake, so I just edited the default shoes). I'm not that good at making fabric though, so the clothes are not as good as they could be.

The face is just the model's default face, with the other side scarred. I did try to make a face from scratch, but failed miserably, as I'm terrible at skinning flesh.

I'm almost done with it, but I'd like to know what you all think of it so far. Comments? Critiques? Suggestions? Lay 'em on me.

.The Deviant August 26th, 2005 09:48 PM
Re: Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
The crotch looks a wee funky, and the collar needs to be fixed. I would've altered the face abit. Nice work though.

Inyri Forge August 26th, 2005 09:51 PM
Re: Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
Some advice: Don't use Harrison Ford's face. That ruins the entire skin.

Almighty_gir August 26th, 2005 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge
Some advice: Don't use Harrison Ford's face. That ruins the entire skin.
true that.

not to mention the hair is all wrong, harvey's dark hair was all spiked and incoherrant, and the white hair was matted down.

Lazerbeak August 26th, 2005 10:02 PM
Re: Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
Thanks for the comments everyone!

To Haruki: I'll try and fix up the crotch (did that sound wrong?). About the collar, I haven't done it yet. I wanted to do the white/black scheme, but it uses mirrored textures, so I'm trying to figure out a way to work around it.

To Inyri: I agree wholeheartedly, but every attempt I made to give him a new face ended in disaster. So for now, he's gonna have to be played by Harrison Ford. That is, unless someone wants to make me a new face... http://forums.filefront.com/images/s.../yeltongue.gif

To gir: I've always seen it done the other way around though, with the white hair all unkempt, and the black hair slicked down (at least that's how it was on all my reference pics).

Lazerbeak August 27th, 2005 09:09 AM
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Can't edit, so I'll have to make a new post.

I messed around with the legs texture a bit, and fixed the crotchal area, as suggested by Haruki. Looks better now methinks.

I'm going to try my best to give him a new face. But if nothing looks decent, I'll have to keep Mr. Ford's face... :uhm:

.The Deviant August 27th, 2005 09:11 AM
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Looks much better :). Though, you may want to use harder brushes on those lines.

Lazerbeak August 27th, 2005 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Haruki Exodis
Looks much better :). Though, you may want to use harder brushes on those lines.
Glad you like. http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/smilie.gif I think you're right about the lines, looking at it again, they do look kinda blurred out.

On another note, I worked on the face for a few minutes and came up with this. Yeah, it sucks, but it was the best I could do... http://forums.filefront.com/images/s...28frown%29.gif

.The Deviant August 27th, 2005 10:13 AM
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looks good! I don't remember TF's age, however I think harder lines and more definite wrinkles are in order for the face.

Lazerbeak August 27th, 2005 10:44 AM
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It always looked to me like he was in his late 30's-early 40's. Anyhoo, I made his wrinkles more pronounced and hardened the lines a bit, he looks a bit more "his age" now. :D

.The Deviant August 27th, 2005 10:56 AM
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It's gettin' there ;)... Also, the where the hair divides and where the face divides, those locations don't match up. May want to check that out :D.

Lazerbeak August 27th, 2005 11:58 AM
Re: Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
OK, I just tested it in-game, and it looks great, except for one huge problem. The hair's missing! The surface for the hair is gone, meaning that there's a huge gaping hole atop his head. The part in the .skin file for the hair reads:

head_hair_off,models/players/twoface/hair.tga

I was able to fix this in ModView by switching the surface to "on", but I don't know how to fix it in-game. I tried changing "head_hair_off" to "head_hair_on", but that didn't work. Can this be fixed? Did I miss something obvious?

S3phiroth August 27th, 2005 12:15 PM
Re: Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
Just delete the _off out of the .skin file.

Lazerbeak August 27th, 2005 12:18 PM
Re: Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
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Originally Posted by S3phiroth
Just delete the _off out of the .skin file.
Tried it, didn't work. It just said "Surface head_hair not found!" http://forums.filefront.com/images/s...28frown%29.gif

-Ghost- August 27th, 2005 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazerbeak
It always looked to me like he was in his late 30's-early 40's. Anyhoo, I made his wrinkles more pronounced and hardened the lines a bit, he looks a bit more "his age" now. :D
That's a nice looking skin you've made, keep up the good work!

Lazerbeak August 27th, 2005 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Ghost-
That's a nice looking skin you've made, keep up the good work!
I'm glad you like it! If it gets a good enough response, I might release it. http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/smilie.gif

.The Deviant August 27th, 2005 01:13 PM
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post the .skin file and I'll see what I can find out. You may have to surf it on.

Lazerbeak August 27th, 2005 01:17 PM
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Here ya go.

.The Deviant August 27th, 2005 01:21 PM
Re: Two-Face WIP, need feedback
 
Ah. similar things occured when I tried to reskin boushh. Leia's head is filled black when the helmet is on, and I had to remove head_helmet_on in the .skin file.

Code:
hips,models/players/twoface/legs.tga
hips_whip,*off
hips_holster_indy,*off
hips_cap_l_leg_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
hips_cap_torso_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
hips_cap_r_leg_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

r_leg,models/players/twoface/legs.tga
r_leg_foot,models/players/twoface/shoe2.tga
r_leg_cap_hips_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

l_leg,models/players/twoface/legs.tga
l_leg_foot,models/players/twoface/shoe.tga
l_leg_cap_hips_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

torso,models/players/twoface/torso.tga
torso_collar,models/players/twoface/collar.tga
torso_cap_head_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
torso_cap_hips_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
torso_cap_l_arm_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
torso_cap_r_arm_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

r_arm,models/players/twoface/arm.tga
r_arm_cap_r_hand_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
r_arm_cap_torso_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

r_hand,models/players/twoface/basic_hand.tga
r_hand_cap_r_arm_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

l_arm,models/players/twoface/arm2.tga
l_arm_cap_l_hand_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
l_arm_cap_torso_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

l_hand,models/players/twoface/basic_hand.tga
l_hand_cap_l_arm_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga

head,models/players/twoface/face.tga
head_fedora,*off
head_fedora_hair,models/players/twoface/hair.tga
head_hair,models/players/twoface/hair.tga
head_cap_torso_off,models/players/stormtrooper/caps.tga
head_eye,models/players/twoface/eye.tga
head_mouth,models/players/twoface/mouth.tga

Try that. If not, PM me the .pk3 and I'll get it working.


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