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Meseriasu April 21st, 2005 07:24 AM

changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Hope that's not been asked before and the chances of that are slim, but here I go:

How do I change the damag a weapon does? How about its speed?
The ideea is I wanna play a little with the different stances in the game, and I dont know how.

Hope I did not waste your time.

S3phiroth April 21st, 2005 07:31 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
go find a saber file and open it in notepad. then its self explanitory, copy the files then pack them up again. Remember it will only work on servers that have it.

Gtkradiantguy April 21st, 2005 07:59 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Simple, to change saber attack speeds, Go to console using SHIFT+~, press g_saberanimspeed (amount)
To change saber damages easily, If you dont already have it, get ja+ 2.2 or higher, and go to console and press jp_single and search through and change them, also goes for jp_staff and jp_dual, I do that alot, also allows you to do much admin stuff on your own servers using jp_councilpass, jp_knightpass, and jp_instructorpass.

So it can be a mod, but a mod thats already out. :)

Meseriasu April 24th, 2005 08:14 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
thanks for the posts, but there was no file in witch "damage" was to be seen. If there is, and I have not found it, please point it out.

About the version: there is a dubious thing going on - when I try to run the 1.01 update, the exe simply does nothing. WTF is going on?

.The Deviant April 24th, 2005 11:47 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Thats because the default sabers are using the game's coding for it. if you'd look at a modeled saber, it'll have this:

Code:

damageScale        1.25
and on the situation of the .exe, it did work, it just doesnt show it.

I normally wouldnt help you because of your snobbish attitude, but i need more posts, and if i teach you SOMETHING, you might give more thought on the models/skins of others

Meseriasu April 26th, 2005 05:18 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Ok, thanks for the help. I'll try to find out by myself what you mean by modeled saber. The exe really did nothing, the version is still the same.
Snobe: "An arrogant and annoyng person". I am annoyng, but not arrogant. If I was arrogant I would just ignore you and just say: "look at how stupid this guy is". So you are only half right. And pls do not act like gir and start swearing. :) If you dont like me, pls dont talk to me. I tried to stop pointles arguments, but if you keep pushing, I cant help it.
And I am giving thought to other peoples models, but why lie and say I really like them when I dont? I think crittics help people better than saying "wow how cool you are dude - keep up the lame work". If I think someone is wrong, I say it, but not because I wanna make myself look smart.

Mani-Man April 26th, 2005 05:22 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
how can i edit lightsabers to use in the mp i have episode 1-2 lightsabers but if i choose for example an mace windu lightsaber hilt,its silver in the game theres a black "normal" saber?

Meseriasu April 26th, 2005 05:38 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Man, use punctuation, I cant understant a thing you say...

Ok, from what I understand, your hilt is untextured ? maybe a file path problem? Textures not found or something...

Mani-Man April 26th, 2005 07:16 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
it should looks like the left saber but it looks like in the right screen
thats the problem of the most of my saber hiltshttp://img176.echo.cx/img176/678/awdwad6fi.jpg

.The Deviant April 26th, 2005 08:46 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Quote:

And I am giving thought to other peoples models, but why lie and say I really like them when I dont? I think crittics help people better than saying "wow how cool you are dude - keep up the lame work". If I think someone is wrong, I say it, but not because I wanna make myself look smart.
Now, when i read this post, I laughed so damn hard. first of all, You remind me of John Kerry in the '04 election. You're complaining and bitching about the way things are done or how they look, yet you really have no room to talk. you have no clue how to alter, change, or edit the problem. you just talk shit! This is why Gir and I hate these forums so much. Most of the people who frequent it like "OMFG TEH UBER Inyri" and TRAUMA XD actually know what they're talking about...

And on the situation of the .Exe, where did you download it?

And now I bid you adču bcause my idiot friend is clawing at my back while bleeding permenant marker from her eyes ^_^.

-Haruki

Inyri Forge April 26th, 2005 10:36 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mani-Man
it should looks like the left saber but it looks like in the right screen

Are you trying to replace a pre-existing hilt? It looks like that's what you're trying to do.

If so, make sure the GLM is named appropriately. For instance, if you're trying to overwrite saber_1, then make sure the GLM is "saber_1.glm". I learned the hard way that dumping a "saber_w.glm" in there won't work ;)

Of course, I recommend not overwriting. If you need to know how to add new sabers to SP, contact me (or Trauma - he's my master... but don't tell him I said to bug him :P) and I'll walk you through it.

Red Rebel April 26th, 2005 10:45 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Lol. Inyri you have a stalker now :p

I'm getting tired of the arguing could guys use e-mails, IMs, and PMs? I'd really appreciate it if you did.

I'm STILL unsure about Haruki's gender....

With the .exe, you usually just have to download it again. If it still doesn't work, get it somewhere else.

Inyri Forge April 26th, 2005 10:48 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
I have way too many stalkers on these forums. I don't know why... I'm not that cool or anything ;) And last I checked, Haruki's a guy. And... what EXE are we talking about? No, nevermind I said that... my sheer laziness shall not taint this thread!

S3phiroth April 26th, 2005 10:53 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
OMGZ LIKE INYRI U R ME HEERO WIL U MARRIE ME PLZ KTHX.


Anyway don't argue on these forums if you want to argue take it to the melee. Also ... the problem you have is I think the game isn't loading your saber, if this is on mp it is because the saber isn't on the server if it is in SP I have no clue.

Red Rebel April 26th, 2005 11:10 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Messy--Mesa--*scrolls up*

Meseriasu** was having trouble with his 1.01 patch...

Inyri, you must have LAS like me. Lazy American Syndrome. It lowers productivity drastically. If only I was born in Europe....

Trauma Sensei April 26th, 2005 02:22 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
I bet that hilt Mani-man posted is a "half-build or rescaled" hilt included on a pseudo-modeller's hilt pack (I wont say names...)
The hilt does not appear because it has not been uploaded to the server, the model has to be uploaded to the server to work.
If the .exe for the update is not working, might be because the RPC (remote procedure call) service is not working properly, probably because a cpu issue, or a damaged sector in the ram.

Meseriasu April 27th, 2005 05:21 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
ok, no more thread arguing shit. Haruki, check your pm. :)

1. The exe. I dont know where I got it. If you can recommend me a site that has a good version, please do. I am on dial-up (hopefuly not for too long) and that exe is 10 megs big.

2. the damage of the lightsaber. Haruki (or enyone), where exactly do I find that code you were talking about? Please, be more explicit. I searched the lightsaber files found in the assets, but found nothing spelled "damage".

Trauma Sensei April 27th, 2005 06:39 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
You will have to modify the .sab files found on ext_data/sabers directory on assets1.pk3. If you dont know what to do with them I suggest you downloading the JA official SDK, you can find that on jk2files.com

Red Rebel April 27th, 2005 10:59 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
I got my patch from jk3files.com and it worked fine.

I feel your pain man. At home, I have 28.8k dial-up *tear*

*Flashes new, probably short-lived, Arcade Awards*

Meseriasu April 27th, 2005 03:12 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
ok, the file is editable with notepad, does that program do something else, or it just edits the file for you ? (cose in that case i dont need it - i'm an ace with notepad :) )


Quote:


single_2
{
name @MENUS_SINGLE_HILT2
saberType SABER_SINGLE
saberModel "models/weapons2/saber_2/saber_2.glm"
soundOn "sound/weapons/saber/saberon.wav"
soundLoop "sound/weapons/saber/saberhum4.wav"
soundOff "sound/weapons/saber/saberoff.wav"
saberLength 40
saberColor random
}

so, what do I have to do? add the line haruki sugested?

about the exe: I'll start downloading it... see you in a week :)
and one more thing... rebel, wtf are those "arcade awards" everyone has beneath their portraits? You made me curious when you mentioned them...

Red Rebel April 27th, 2005 04:17 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
If you get the top score on a game in The Arcade, you get a neat-o icon there. At one time I had ten, now only six...


((There's also the link to The Arcade at the top of the page))

Inyri Forge April 27th, 2005 04:26 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meseriasu
so, what do I have to do? add the line haruki sugested?

Haruki's usually right.

Trauma Sensei April 27th, 2005 04:47 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trauma Sensei
If you dont know what to do with them I suggest you downloading the JA official SDK, you can find that on jk2files.com

Yea...

Inyri Forge April 27th, 2005 05:00 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Why do you want to increase the damage, anyway?

Trauma Sensei April 27th, 2005 06:25 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Probably because he thinks he will "pwn" at mp when he gets his altered damage server, and probably he doesnt know that he cant use a saber that has not been uploaded to the server. Or maybe he is just not good enough to beat sp with the default saber damage. If thats the case, man, you will never improve.

Red Rebel April 27th, 2005 06:30 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Maybe he wanted to lower it for more of a challenge :p

Trauma Sensei April 27th, 2005 06:38 PM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Oh yes, thats an option too.

Meseriasu May 3rd, 2005 08:14 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Ok, thanks for everything, I will try what you sugested.

And about the damage, I dont know what I want yet... experiment and see. I was allways atracted to realistic damages, like when the opponent scores a hit across your body or neck you die instantly - not 10 slashes at the neck and you. Thats why I play on the hardest difficulty, the one with 50 life.

I dont play MP no more. Maybe I would have if I had a better conection (i'm still on dial up :( ). There was a time when I played with my friends on lan, and it was pretty cool. Despite what you might think of me, I dont need extra damage to make my kills... I never cheat or try to.
The only things I would modify in MP are:
1. the huge unbalance between the 3 types of sabers (single, dual, staff). The satff is way too powerful (we have tested the sabers a lot) and can be dangerous in the hands of a chaotic newbie. The single saber (my favourite) can kill with a single stroke (red stance), but the hit must be perfect - no need to tell how hard that is with a chaotic player. The other 2 stances are kinda defensive and despite their superior speed they are pretty useless (deal less damage than they can heal). So the single strategy is obvious (red strike, then shower him with blue and hope he dies). The staff is so simple: hit-left hit-right loop. Disproportionate damage.

2. the way characters move. Much more lame than in sp, you cant move in a kata or in a combo, so they are kinda inefficient. And simple moves use force: how lame.

Trauma Sensei May 3rd, 2005 09:12 AM

Re: changing light saber damage and stuff?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meseriasu
The only things I would modify in MP are:
1. the huge unbalance between the 3 types of sabers (single, dual, staff). The satff is way too powerful (we have tested the sabers a lot) and can be dangerous in the hands of a chaotic newbie. The single saber (my favourite) can kill with a single stroke (red stance), but the hit must be perfect - no need to tell how hard that is with a chaotic player. The other 2 stances are kinda defensive and despite their superior speed they are pretty useless (deal less damage than they can heal). So the single strategy is obvious (red strike, then shower him with blue and hope he dies). The staff is so simple: hit-left hit-right loop. Disproportionate damage.

2. the way characters move. Much more lame than in sp, you cant move in a kata or in a combo, so they are kinda inefficient. And simple moves use force: how lame.

I can tell you have never dueled a real dueler... Any style if used correctly can beat any style. Single red stance is probably the most retarded thing that was included on JA, it is nothing like fencing, but not only that, it can be easily defeated by anyone with a IQ high enough to know when to evade and when to attack. Single yellow stance is good when not used by a spammer noob (unless you are playing on a JA- server, because that mod makes yellow almost completely absurd). Single blue stance is good only when used by someone with great timing and finger coordination. Dual stance is almost the same as single yellow but easier because it inflicts more damage, it is faster, and has more parry. Staff is the noob's weapon of choice because of the butterfly, but when not used by a spammer it can be a really deadly weapon.
Katas are idiotic moves that shouldnt be included because you only kata on a real life exhibition, they might look cool, but that doesnt make them useful.


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