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CLONECOMMANDER501 April 18th, 2007 06:24 PM

We need to stop.....
 
Remember the good ol' days when we made mods because we wanted too and have fun? Well... now we are just doing it for competition. The way you guys handled vangelis....... a bit extreme. Same case with clone even if he was proven a liar. I admit to being power hungry sometimes, but I have recognized this. If you guys don't believe me, look at one of the wisest of us's sig.

"Because modding has become a competition, not fun, I don't want to take place in the public modding anymore."

This was from general grevious's sig.


Because of this I am CONSIDERING taking a "leave of absence" from this community to apologize to grevious and csoler_1.

Ipse April 18th, 2007 06:57 PM

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[quote=CLONECOMMANDER501;3637757]Remember the good ol' days when we made mods because we wanted too and have fun? Well... now we are just doing it for competition. The way you guys handled vangelis....... a bit extreme. Same case with clone even if he was proven a liar. I admit to being power hungry sometimes, but I have recognized this. If you guys don't believe me, look at one of the wisest of us's sig.

"Because modding has become a competition, not fun, I don't want to take place in the public modding anymore."

Most of them do it for fun. If there was a EAW mod contest, z3r0x's mod will easily win. Besides if u want to make a mod for fun, then make a mod for fun.
If u want to try to beat z3r0x, then knock yourself out.

Kalo Shin April 18th, 2007 07:36 PM

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Indeed, it can be done for fun, OR to appease all the people who want somethin new.

I dont remember when i modded for fame, Or even if i did, Either way You're right.

Retherferd April 19th, 2007 07:27 AM

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Told you so cc modding sucks anyway, because you get so caught up in it you forget about the game you even bought.

Daft_vader2 April 19th, 2007 10:23 AM

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What do you mean modding sucks?!?!

1upD April 19th, 2007 11:07 AM

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Modding isn't worth it if all it ammounts to is other people bragging about your stuff...
Though sometimes people can be extreme, piracy should not be allowed.

CLONECOMMANDER501 April 19th, 2007 12:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathhascome (Post 3637808)

Most of them do it for fun. If there was a EAW mod contest, z3r0x's mod will easily win. Besides if u want to make a mod for fun, then make a mod for fun.
If u want to try to beat z3r0x, then knock yourself out.


THATS what I DON'T WANT TO DO. I do not want to compete anymore. You can't make a mod now in days without having to make alliances or try to beat down another mod.

Ipse April 19th, 2007 01:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CLONECOMMANDER501 (Post 3638683)
THATS what I DON'T WANT TO DO. I do not want to compete anymore. You can't make a mod now in days without having to make alliances or try to beat down another mod.

I can see tring to make alliances, u know, to make EAW more fun. But tring to pwn anthoer mod, i don't get it. Like i said, if u want to make a mod for fun instead of pwning mods, if u want to pwn mods, then pwn mods.

_HK47_ April 19th, 2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathhascome http://forums.filefront.com/gamingfo...s/viewpost.gif

Most of them do it for fun. If there was a EAW mod contest, z3r0x's mod will easily win. Besides if u want to make a mod for fun, then make a mod for fun.
If u want to try to beat z3r0x, then knock yourself out.


Clone Commander is right, that's what we don't want. In my point of view, mods must be made to make the game more funny, more cool. I think there shouldn't be any kind of competition in the community beetwen mods, that's stupid, since they're made to have fun and not to frustrate or bother anyone. Although like we can see in some topics of the forum, some people don't think that way. I do aprove constructive feedback (NOT TRYING TO PUT SOMEONE DOWN), but without flamming.
If every modder, mapper, skinner, moddeler starts to act as this, then, EaW Community we are no more; just a bunch of stupid people without nothing better to do spending hours in front of the computer to do some modification for yourself, since you would join a civil war if you uploaded it.

Ah, the funny thing in your post, "Deathhascome", is that I never saw z3r0x doing such kind of thing. He's a very talented (and experient modder/mapper/etc) with a lot of respect...

CLONECOMMANDER501 April 19th, 2007 03:25 PM

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Umm. thats not what z3r0x showed me :D

And Guess who's back? Sonic

Ipse April 19th, 2007 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by _HK47_ (Post 3638905)
Originally Posted by Deathhascome http://forums.filefront.com/gamingfo...s/viewpost.gif
Ah, the funny thing in your post, "Deathhascome", is that I never saw z3r0x doing such kind of thing. He's a very talented (and experient modder/mapper/etc) with a lot of respect...

Thats why i said "if".




:gpost:

z3r0x April 19th, 2007 03:33 PM

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LOL.. There is no contest. I dont see anyone "competing". There is some friendly competition that goes on between some mods.. but its all in good humor and for fun.

CLONECOMMANDER501 April 19th, 2007 03:38 PM

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Really? Don't play stupid, remember the whole "FOC SPACE ADDON v.3 > WiP?

_HK47_ April 19th, 2007 04:16 PM

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LOL.. There is no contest. I dont see anyone "competing". There is some friendly competition that goes on between some mods.. but its all in good humor and for fun.
It appears that these 'conflicts' happens more here on EaW Files Forums then (if you take a look over the forum in general, you will find some of them)... Because I don't remmember seeing such things happening on Everything EaW, or PFF... =-|

bobsmithishere April 19th, 2007 04:29 PM

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i agree with CC, back in the day we used to have good mods, but now adays mods are starting to look alike because if a mod has something yours doesn't, you add it into yours to make yours better, i have made a couple of mods of my own, but i haven't posted them anywhere and i have only given them to a couple of my friends, obviously i don't mod for competition or being famous, i mod because it gives me something fun to do, and because i trust my friends suggestions to help make my mod better

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. April 19th, 2007 04:58 PM

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Stay on Topic and dont start flaming people.

CLONECOMMANDER501 April 19th, 2007 04:58 PM

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Can we just move on :/

Gorbeh April 19th, 2007 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CLONECOMMANDER501 (Post 3637757)
Remember the good ol' days when we made mods because we wanted too and have fun? Well... now we are just doing it for competition. The way you guys handled vangelis....... a bit extreme. Same case with clone even if he was proven a liar. I admit to being power hungry sometimes, but I have recognized this. If you guys don't believe me, look at one of the wisest of us's sig.

"Because modding has become a competition, not fun, I don't want to take place in the public modding anymore."

This was from general grevious's sig.


Because of this I am CONSIDERING taking a "leave of absence" from this community to apologize to grevious and csoler_1.

Big reason why I left. Time and resources contributed as well, but normally I'd have continued anyway.

z3r0x April 19th, 2007 08:05 PM

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Really? Don't play stupid, remember the whole "FOC SPACE ADDON v.3 > WiP?
Ohh geez.. Some peope have NO sense of humor.

cerberi_force April 19th, 2007 08:57 PM

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I get some of what CC is saying but in my point of view is that WE ARE MAKING TOO MUCH!!!! Now every time someone makes a mod lets say for the clone wars, now the person whos making the mod did it by him self ( making the code and stuff) and he releases it to the public then other people come in not naming anyone and say "hey you stole that code" and stuff like that. But the problem is you can't prove it any more you can't trust any one at all I don't even trust my mum any more and I am serious.

Dfeeds April 19th, 2007 09:22 PM

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Mods aren't any worse then they were, realistically they're MUCH better. It just seems like they're all worse because all the ideas are old news. I remember when i first released my 501st, the idea was HUGE, a brand new unit added with custom textures and all, it wasn't very common. Now look, there's not a mod out there that doesn't have a new unit added. The games what, a year old? The reason why mods all look the same is because there's no new ideas to go with, not because of competition. Although realistically there was, is, and always will be competition, its what people thrive off of. Trying to have people like you're mod is competition in its own because if its your mod they like, there's someone else's mod they don't care for (I'm not going to say don't like because that's not true) and that person is going to try and do what you just did, and if they succeed you're going to want to fight back (that is if you have the time and effort). And it also just goes to prove what z3r0x said, its just friendly competition. No one of us modders is going to hate each other for beating the other out (hence why we lend each other our material for the other to use).



woo that was a lot, hope it all makes sense lol I'm to lazy to reread it

cerberi_force April 19th, 2007 10:40 PM

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LOL it took me 3 mins to read I don't blame you for being lazy Dfeed ever thourght writing a book. :)

jedi_consulor April 20th, 2007 01:01 AM

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Hmm this is a pointless debate. Speaking for myself I will say I did not start modding for the reason I want to make the best mod. This gibberish is immature to me. There is no competition between mods I even KNOW OF ! - I do not know where this comes from. I help other mods they help me in return. Doesn't sound like competition to me at all. ;)

That's actually called helping each other out for a greater purpose. Please don't start debating who has the best mod either, this is not the best mod awards web site. Your just going to create resentment and bad feelings.

All mod's that takes time and have been carefully put together all have a place. They are all good on their own merits. Don't bring this down to a school yard mentality of who is better than who.

JMO

JC

CLONECOMMANDER501 April 20th, 2007 02:39 AM

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You guys just don't want to listen....FRIENDLY COMPETITION? DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY TIMES MY MOD WAS ATTACKED BY IA2 FAN BOYS? WE HAD TO GET RID OF OUR OLD FORUMS BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T STOP!

EAWFAN AOSW April 20th, 2007 03:27 AM

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CC that is simply because a little while ago you were spamming the IA2 thread expecting IA2 to simply hand over all there models to you...thats is the thing that is tanking this community, to much laziness....just make your own stuff....every clone wars mod has the same units taken from z3r0x, the same battle droids from that free release pack the same unit list etc...no creativity any more...

codeuser April 20th, 2007 05:31 AM

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Yeah, you have that awesome modeler remember? Why spam IA 2 for their stuff if he's working for you? You should realize that one modeler can do a lot.

jedi_consulor April 20th, 2007 10:37 AM

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Quote:

. The way you guys handled vangelis....... a bit extreme. Same case with clone even if he was proven a liar.
Who ? you don't mean Vangelis_EAW AKA EAW Commander do you ? - man that is not an extreme case far from it he stole from Zerox and released a bad mod in the name of MY MOD ! He stole from Z3r0x and stole the name of my up coming mod I wanted to make as a public mod. The whole time the ass hole was telling me it's for his own private mod. I even gave him a copy of the Splash Screen I was designing for SOTE. - Well I had to re design that later because of HIM.

Then I find out he releases an un official version of SOTE - nothing to do with the mod I am working on and very poor in the fact it's just a rip off of the code Z did. No credits were made to Zerox or me for the idea, name or anything else such as the xml advise and coding I helped him with on telling him how to make heroes.

Don't tell me this treatment was extreme. He deserved to be banned. I am sorry but he left me in the shit to clear up after his little work was done. :rolleyes:

CLONECOMMANDER501 April 20th, 2007 10:55 AM

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Alright... I stand corrected, excuse me if I've never been to the other EAW forums.

Ipse April 20th, 2007 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cerberi_force (Post 3639304)
I get some of what CC is saying but in my point of view is that WE ARE MAKING TOO MUCH!!!! Now every time someone makes a mod lets say for the clone wars, now the person whos making the mod did it by him self ( making the code and stuff) and he releases it to the public then other people come in not naming anyone and say "hey you stole that code" and stuff like that. But the problem is you can't prove it any more you can't trust any one at all I don't even trust my mum any more and I am serious.

True, it happended on one of those mods. Improved Ventor, or something,... i don't remember.

CLONECOMMANDER501 April 20th, 2007 01:37 PM

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Cerberi I was also thinking the same thing.

jedi_consulor April 21st, 2007 03:06 AM

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he releases it to the public then other people come in not naming anyone and say "hey you stole that code" and stuff like that. But the problem is you can't prove it any more you can't trust any one at all
That is not quite true. If you need to proove code is yours you 'did' it' or a model you have made or even a skin, you just leave identifying markers in the code. I know Z3r0x does this and I know SMG do it with their models. I have also seen skins with the authors name part of the skin name. These can be changed through hex editing probably, but it is a lot of effort to go to to just steal some thing. But it has been done and the thing IS they did not steal it well enough otherwise they would not have been accused.

Things can be easily proven if the author has left identity markings through the mod they have been working on. IMO


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