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sona1111 March 26th, 2010 03:12 PM

Quick question.
 
hi i'm new here (was a bigger user in BCfiles) and i just have one quick question, call me a noob if you want.

Without looking through every single map, can someone tell me IF it is possible to have a flyable capships (the frigates or the bigger ones) mod, or does the game engine not support this?

thanks.

icemember March 26th, 2010 03:29 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
Well technically you can. If your PC is capable. And if there is a model that is one whole and not in parts lol. Not sure, but the games engine can handle hudge models I like too think. But there are some models that will simply crash the game from being too huge.

Maveritchell March 26th, 2010 07:58 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
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Originally Posted by icemember (Post 5280233)
But there are some models that will simply crash the game from being too huge.

Size is irrelevant. All that really matters is polycount. There is obviously an upper limit to what makes sense, sizewise, because the game will only render up to a certain distance for the main LOD and then a longer distance for a low-detail LOD.

Having capital ships flying around (or not) is a matter of practicality more than possibility. You can make whatever model you want fly around, but because no physics are supported in the game, you can't have an interactive model (i.e. one with an interior) be a moving entity too. There is the matter of implementation as well for larger ships, since vehicles by and large aren't initialized as "flying" - they have to take off from somewhere.

sona1111 March 26th, 2010 08:24 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
so your saying its possible to have the smaller caps (frigates) take off from some huge, invisible platform in space, but the larges ones will not work because they have interiors.

icemember March 26th, 2010 10:21 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
Well from what I understand mav is saying, size doesnt matter, only poly's count does. Techiccally you can take off with a capital ship and land LOL!! But from the captial ships ingame, they are in parts, not a whole model, so you will be flying with one part of the capital ship while the other parts stay put.

theultimat March 27th, 2010 05:13 AM

Re: Quick question.
 
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Originally Posted by Maveritchell (Post 5280401)
Size is irrelevant.

Don't you mean,
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Size matters not
Sorry, couldn't resist. :p

Tricorder March 27th, 2010 09:50 AM

Re: Quick question.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icemember (Post 5280483)
But from the captial ships ingame, they are in parts, not a whole model, so you will be flying with one part of the capital ship while the other parts stay put.

"Not to worry, we're still flying half the ship." :lulz:
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Originally Posted by theultimat (Post 5280541)
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Originally Posted by Maveritchell (Post 5280401)
Size is irrelevant.

Don't you mean,
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Size matters not
Sorry, couldn't resist. :p

:rofl:

Maveritchell March 27th, 2010 11:15 AM

Re: Quick question.
 
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Originally Posted by theultimat (Post 5280541)
Don't you mean... etc.

Puns aside, size does matter (as I said it affects LODs of the model), it just doesn't matter in this context - which is why I said "irrelevant."
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Originally Posted by sona1111
so your saying its possible to have the smaller caps (frigates) take off from some huge, invisible platform in space, but the larges ones will not work because they have interiors.

Whether something has interiors or not has nothing to do with their size. If you're talking about the models that come with the modtools, then the "largest ones [with] interiors" won't work not because of size or internal composition, but primarily (as icemember alluded to above) because they're made up of more than one model. Any vehicle has to be a single .msh file. If you really want to have a flyable capital ship (which as I said is not something that's really practical in this game), then you will really need to be doing some modelwork of your own anyway, because none of the static single models used even for the frigates are set up to be used as vehicles. You could use them, but it would be sloppy and no better than using a bunker model, or a building model, or whatever as a vehicle - none of them are set up to work that way.

icemember March 27th, 2010 01:39 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
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Originally Posted by icemember http://forums.filefront.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
But from the captial ships ingame, they are in parts, not a whole model, so you will be flying with one part of the capital ship while the other parts stay put.

"Not to worry, we're still flying half the ship." :lulz:
LOL!!! I think you get some green things for that one LOL!!!

Tricorder March 27th, 2010 02:25 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
Your green things? Ulala. :naughty: :lulz: Btw, I think you messed up the quote. ;)

icemember March 27th, 2010 02:37 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
Yes I think I did LOL. Mav, have some fun LOL!! I can't share the green with you Tri :(, I 1st have too share it with everyone else LOL. So I did some browsing too see who earn it. But its coming!! :naughty:

Tricorder March 27th, 2010 02:44 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
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Originally Posted by icemember (Post 5280839)
Yes I think I did LOL.

Bad boy. :spank: =p
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Originally Posted by icemember (Post 5280839)
Mav, have some fun LOL!!

:agreed
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Originally Posted by icemember (Post 5280839)
I can't share the green with you Tri :(, I 1st have too share it with everyone else LOL. So I did some browsing too see who earn it.

That... could've been horribly misinterpreted. :lulz:
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Originally Posted by icemember (Post 5280839)
But its coming!! :naughty:

Uh, I can already feel it cumming. :naughty:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8526/pervert.gif

:rofl:

Maveritchell March 27th, 2010 03:47 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
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Mav, have some fun LOL!!
Just trying to make sure the question gets answered accurately. :) There are not enough people that do that. There are plenty of people who can take up the "herpa derp joke lol offtopic rofl" role.

icemember March 27th, 2010 04:54 PM

Re: Quick question.
 
Well yea I know what ya mean about the role and not much people answering a question when it has been asked. But I mean is after the question is answered and maybe turning on your rep or having a friend or 2 on your list. You might have some not on your list. Like maybe modder friends. But yea....something like that.

But back topic, I will try making something huge too place on a map too see what the game acts like. I would think its different for everyone as everyone does not have the same PC and Software.

Tricorder March 28th, 2010 08:06 AM

Re: Quick question.
 
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Originally Posted by Maveritchell (Post 5280870)
Just trying to make sure the question gets answered accurately. :)

You can still have some fun while doing that. I do that all the time. Latest example:

http://forums.filefront.com/sw-jk3-p...ork-right.html

See my post? 100% accurate how to fix the problem guide with a dose of subtle humor to make the post informative and fun to read at the same time. ;)
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Originally Posted by Maveritchell (Post 5280870)
There are plenty of people who can take up the "herpa derp joke lol offtopic rofl" role.

Why don't you join us on the Dark, err, I mean Fun Side of the Force? =p
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Originally Posted by icemember (Post 5280910)
I will try making something huge too place on a map too see what the game acts like.

[Ace Ventura Talk]Re-he-he-he-he-he-he-helly? :naughty: Just how huge are you going to make it? :naughty:[/Ace Ventura Talk] :lulz:


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