Star Trek XI Stinks (Spoilers)

[MrFancypants]

Does anyone else think that the soundtrack of this movie is awesome? I've been listening to it for 2 days now, it is the best movie soundtrack I've heard in a long, long time.

[Re4_wesker]

Originally Posted by MrFancypants

Does anyone else think that the soundtrack of this movie is awesome? I've been listening to it for 2 days now, it is the best movie soundtrack I've heard in a long, long time.

yes. in fact i just ordered it online yesterday

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by 086goinfast

I guess im the only one here that visits trekmovie.com at all. As I said in the other thread reading the Countdown comic helps. Ofcourse the Narada after its transformation into what it is in the movie isn't Romulan. It was covered with retro-fitted borg tech to suit Romulan designs being held in a secret Romulan facility(The Vault) after the Hobus Star(not Romulus Star) goes boom.

Ya think that might have been useful information that maybe should have been oh I dont know...mentioned in the movie?

[Bs|Archaon]

No because that's the sort of thing that would make this film into your typical average Trek film that only Trek fans watch, and not the blockbuster that will hopefully revive Trek into something we can enjoy more often than 90 minutes once every 5 years. The extra information and comics etc are there for the people that care, but no it's not really all that relevant as far as I'm concerned.

There's a big nasty ship. Whatever it is, it has Romulans on it. They're travelled back in time by accident. They're pretty much insane and/or evil and their ship is obviously much newer and much more powerful than any 'current' ship.

We can nitpick all we want but do we really need to know more than that? Adding a load of trek-technobabble would have just ruined the pacing of the film.


This coming from someone who owns 3 different editions of the Star Trek encyclopedia as well as the TNG and DS9 technical manuals and a number of other books, so I do 'care' about this stuff, but it has it's place and this film wasn't that place.

[DarkKrucifix7]

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

I do agree with main engineering. I kept thinking where the hell is all this room coming from? Have the Feds invented TARDIS technology? Bigger on the inside than the outside? I kept speculating that there was enough room to have set the Enterprise itself into main engineering. That area was HUUUUGEEEE!!!!, especially when you see that the Shuttle Bay looked like it took up most of the engineering hull.

Apparently the "new" Enterprise is just under the size of a Star Destroyer...which explains the size of the interior

[Aerilon]

Originally Posted by IcePure

It might be an alternate reality, but there's not much that ends up being alternate; Vulcan ( a new planet) is getting colonised, Spock and Kirk and everyone end up on the same ship with the correct hierarchy - why can't the rest of the 'real' timeline happen from this ending?

Maybe because Vulcan no longer exists? That planet has been a main focus of all previous Trek shows, and is no longer around. How would they tie this up? Like FancyPants said, they needed to do something BIG to distinguish this universe from the current one, thus defining it as a reboot rather than a prequel (so to speak).

Originally Posted by Re4_wesker

Spoiler:

4. The Narada was not the minning vessel it once was. In the prequel comic (Star Trek Countdown) it looked like this: http://www.startrekdb.se/astrometri/bilder/hobus.jpg

After Romulus blew up the had a massive refit (i mean massive) which made it look like this:http://img.trekmovie.com/images/comics/ente_narada.jpg

I can't see how one can become the other. What did they do? Inject Octopuses and Steroids into the Hull?

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Spoiler:

Ironically the three other Fed ships I saw, the Kelvin and the one that was in front of the Enterprise and to its front right when they warped to Vulcan, and the four nacelle design I thought looked awesome. I have been trying to find more data on those ships but have not found anything yet.

Annoying isn't it? There doesn't seem to be any information anywhere on those other ships.

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Spoiler:

When the Enterprise warped into the Task Force wreckage around Vulcan I was depressed knowing Uhura's large breasted little green skinned Orion buddy was killed aboard the Farragut. Then again they never checked for survivors.

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Spoiler:

I am actually looking forward to seeing what future movies will bring. Just please go no more time travel and lets do a movie or two with some enemy besides the Klingons. Lets see some Gorn, Tholians, real Romulans, Breen, etc.

Klingons (like already mentioned) have been done to hell and back, especially throughout the TMP movies. However, this is a new universe, new experiances, new Klingons.

It would be nice to see another though. Tholians or Gorn would be good, or maybe the Xindi? Wouldn't bet on seeing the Breen though, they're not 'known' enough (even in DS9). If they went onto them, then Starfleet would probably have a lot more info on them by the time the Dominion War struck.

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Spoiler:

I did wonder during the movie if a Romulan mining vessel, what appeared to be a civilian industrial ship and not a warship, even with roughly about 130 year technology leap could take down a Federation warship. I would have been much more impressed by a updated warp capable Romulan Warbird.

Originally Posted by Bs|Archaon

There's a big nasty ship. Whatever it is, it has Romulans on it. They're travelled back in time by accident. They're pretty much insane and/or evil and their ship is obviously much newer and much more powerful than any 'current' ship.

That is something I'm not so sure about. The Romulan Homeworld is gone, so Nero 'spices up' a Mining Ship to take on Spock? Surely he'd have known of some old(ish) Romulan ships lying about somewhere, which would be more... suitable for the job?

Heck, if most of the Empire was using the Norexan Warbird (ST:Nemesis), Nero could have grabbed himself a D'Deridex. Pop that out of a Black Hole next to the Kelvin, we'd have seen how big the new Starfleet ship was then at least.

Originally Posted by DarkKrucifix7

Apparently the "new" Enterprise is just under the size of a Star Destroyer...which explains the size of the interior

See: Star Trek XI Ship Scaling

[Bs|Archaon]

Originally Posted by Aerilon

Heck, if most of the Empire was using the Norexan Warbird (ST:Nemesis), Nero could have grabbed himself a D'Deridex. Pop that out of a Black Hole next to the Kelvin, we'd have seen how big the new Starfleet ship was then at least.

Somehow I don't see a mining ship captain having access to a military vessel, certainly not some kind of Warbird. Especially if the Romulans were doing their traditional isolation/military consolidation, which after that sort of event wouldn't surprise me while they rebuilt their civilisation away from Romulus/Remus.

[Re4_wesker]

Originally Posted by Aerilon

I can't see how one can become the other. What did they do? Inject Octopuses and Steroids into the Hull?

The original was equipped with a romulan/ borg experimental device which the romulans planned to use in future vessels. this device literally changed the appearance of the ship (as already seen). Anyways the original ship probably only made up the center/core of the end result. So ya the refitted version was quite a bit bigger then the original minning vessel.

borg tech= octopuses and steroids

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by Bs|Archaon

Somehow I don't see a mining ship captain having access to a military vessel, certainly not some kind of Warbird. Especially if the Romulans were doing their traditional isolation/military consolidation, which after that sort of event wouldn't surprise me while they rebuilt their civilisation away from Romulus/Remus.

I agree that Nero would have had a hard time finding a Romulan Warship but then he also seemed to have no problem going to a Romulan experimental weapons lab and equipping his ship with state of the art weapons and technology.

The background info on Nero may not have been needed for the big screen (Which I respectfully disagree with) but it would be a big draw for a directors cut Blue Ray edition.

[MrFancypants]

A little spammy, but I thought this report about the reception was Star Trek was quite funny:
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