Star Trek XI: What They Should Do...
 

Ok, so we all know that the next Star Trek movie, is going to be TOS based, and is going to revolve around Kirk and Spock, and their first meeting (even though they don't actually meet until the Enterprise).

Anyway, I haven't started this thread to rant about how bad a movie I think the next film is going to be. Instead, I'd like to say what I think they should have done, and would also like to hear from the Trek Community (here on GF) on what they think should be the next movie.

For me, they should finish off the Enterprise-E, and Picard. Continuing on from ST: Nemesis. Patrick Stewart (Picard) and Brent Spencer (Data) have both said that they no longer wish to do any Trek acting (even though Brent Spencer went and did a couple of Enterprise (Archer & Crew) episodes).

Anyhow, I think they needed to 'end' the Enterprise-E. We know generally what happened to all the other Enterprises:

NX-01 - Decommissioned
NCC-1701 - Refitted, then Destroyed
NCC-1701-A - Decommissioned
NCC-1701-B - Unknown
NCC-1701-C - Destroyed
NCC-1701-D - Destroyed

And now, we've got the Enterprise-E. They need to have it destroyed in my opinion. Having it Decommissioned would just be plain boring. Likewise, they somehow need to kill off Picard. In effect, they've already killed off Data (though, in a sense, he is still 'there', just as another android).

Thus, what I think they should do:

The Enterprise-E gets attacked near the Breen Boarder, all communication is lost. Starfleet inform Riker, who in turn informs Worf (who by now is actually with the Klingons, as the Federation-Klingon Ambassador).

Riker, goes against orders, on a search for the Enterprise-E, and Picard etc, Worf, joins them, maybe with a few other Klingon ships (Picard has done a lot for the Klingon Empire, no doubt there would be many who felt him an honourable man, and would wish to help).

the Titan, and Klingon task force go looking for the Enterprise-E, find her, battered and disabled. Rescue the survivors (one of which is Picard, though he is dying, and with no chance of survival, and in turn dies in the Titan sickbay).

Then the Titan and Klingons get attacked by the Breen, suffer heavy resistance, only for two Romulan Warbirds to decloak (on of which is the Valdore, under the command of Donatra - she said to Picard in Nemesis, that he has made a friend in the Romulan Empire), and they then fend off the Breen, the Enterprise-E blows up (warp core overload, or maybe the Breen could destroy it to stop a salvage) and then Riker reports back to Starfleet, thanks the Romulans and Klingons, and effectively ending the Enterprise-E.

First up, we wouldn't have any 'questions' afterwards, such as 'What happens now', and secondly, we get to see the Titan (Luna Class) in action. In addition, they'd no doubt include a new Klingon ship (if they were to use Birds or Prey, I'd scream), maybe throw in a new Breen design or two. And we get some neat combat.

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Sounds like a good scenario. Though I wouldn't want Picard to die, if I could chose I'd like the Ent-E to survive after Picard, though not too long. For anyone who has played Legacy, Picard mentions in the first mission wheyou can use the ent-E that he'd like the ent-E to survive long after him. Which is something I'd like to have come true. I'd place a few modifications on your story: Picard doesn't die and the ent-E doesn't get destroyed.

They find the ent-E, badly damage and unable to fight. Picard is heavily wounded and gets transported to the Titan. The breen make a bombing run on the still able to fly enterprise, making one of the warp-nacelles to explode, together with the aft tip, and the ship to go on drift.

After this last adventure, which proceeds mostly like you said, Picard decides it's best to stop commanding ships (he still suffers from the wounds he got and will keep on having trouble with them for the rest of his lfe) and settles down to whrite his memoires and enjoy the siple things in life.
The Ent-E gets repaired and refitted. And when Picard dies, years later, the entire crew comes together once more and the Enterprise makes a few honor shots as if it had to say goodbye aswell.
Sounds like a good ending for a trek movie.

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The only problem with that, is that the Enterprise-E is still there. - The entire point of this, would be to make ends of the Enterprise-E, else people will be left with the same question we've got of the Enterprise-B.

Was it destroyed, or was it decommissioned?

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mmh supa eum tycoon, i watched generations again and i was screaming when i saw Kirk dying. I have seen the movie a couple of times (14 years a 15 years old) but because now, i realised that these were heroes and i never saw completely tos. So, i wouldnt know what will happen if i see Picard dead (with that flute music :( ) Sov002 has a point. We see the enterprise e giving a hell of a fight. Picard dies with the first shots (wow wait! ) and the commander (madden, the same actor that plays mayor hayes) shows his qualities and fights like hell. the enterprise e shows its true qualities with his leadership but still its fails. The titan and some bops or new klingon ships come in (with maybe voyager or defiant(sisko?)) and helps.battle over.. Enterprise e heavily damaged gets to stardock and they say that the ship is so hard damaged it isnt worth it anymore and they need to build another one, a newer sovereign... Picard is death but he is with his best friend Q. Together he and Q, helps the universe or is a representative for the UFP. Enterprise gets repaired and all the original crew comes for the last time together on the ship. Riker sits down and points a star on the screen. 'Take us there, steady as she goes.' the enterprise e moves out and makes her last trip before she comes in the musea as one of the flagships that was damaged everytime...


BUT

TOS movie XI...

I have heard a lot of this. JJ is going to work on it but i believe star trek fans as well. Those guys said the same stuff as we of nemesis etc. I think this is good for the movie because finally we are going to see some stuff that the producers never understood because they arent like us (trek fans). THose guys said that the film is full with action, even much more then FC! And they said that paramount is giving them a unlumited budget. If this is really true and not some bulshit, then wow. Imagine, battles and camera movements like battlestar galactica. Beautiful new looking constitutions and miranda's next each other and a huge fleet of rommies come to each other and swarms of torpedoes, etc fly to each other. Camera's diving in battle with explosions so bright that the camera shakes like hell. Footage zooming in on spectacular fights like a constitution that is hammered with pulses and were metal is shot off and rams an old warbird. My god, im getting wet :D :D :D hahahaha but really imagine!

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It is unlikely that any of the Armada ships would be used. As for the Avenger, why would Worf have a Federation ship, if he is now within the Klingon Empire?

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armada ships?

avenger? he is not really with the klingons... He is still part of the federation but he is some sort of representative by the klingons...

remember, he was in insurrection by the enterprise etc...

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He's retired from Ambassordor to the Klingon Empre...he was in Star Fleet's uniform and with out furture explanation...

That's sad..to think that these charaters will spend almost half there lives under Picard...

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It is kind of a trademark of Star Trek for its characters to have unusually long tours of duty at a particular assignment.

i personally reckon that they should have the next movie as an end to the TNG cast (a proper send off) and have a new crew on perhaps a different ship, or maybe even still the enterprise.

That wouldn't work, simply because Riker and Deanna are on another ship, and Data is dead. In essense, they've already given Riken, Deanna and Data a 'send off'. They just forgot about the remaining cast.

What makes you say that? He was the Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire, meaning he would still be on a Starfleet posting.


As above, he never left Starfleet, he was made the Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire, working for the Federation in communication with the Klingons.

Are you sure on that? If my memory serves me correctly, when he left DS9, he was wearing a Klingon Uniform.

Yes? I never said anything about uniforms?

If I were to make this into a mission in QBR, what would you call it?

If you wanted to draw the series away from Enterprise E, how about a story line something like the video game ST Elite Force II only use Titan characters on top of Enterprise E characters? In the end to explain what happened to the Enterpise E, Picard get's too old and get's promoted, refits the ent e and uses it as his Admiral's ship.

I'm going to do as I am fond of doing and point out that in the novels right before Nemesis, Worf resigns as ambassador to the Klingon Empire, in order to take his position on the Enterprise E again, thus why hes at the wedding and on the ship in Nemesis.

Personally Tycoon I love your idea for ST XI, I'm not to fond of having the Ent E destroyed but as long as she kicks some ass beforehand I'm happy. One other thing this would do is let us see who actually became XO on the Big E (yes I know that in the deleted scenes the new XO was shown so don't bother pointing it out.)

I just re-read the thread, and realised I had misread your post. Worf left in a Starfleet Uniform, however during the memory montages all the crew were going through Worf remembered a point in which he was wearing a Klingon Uniform. So he actually left the Station in a starfleet uniform but a flashback showed him in a Klingon one. ;)

I stand corrected. I just re watched it, and as you said, he was wearing a Starfleet Uniform.

Star Trek XI
 

hey guys Star Trek 11 is set in the TOS if you go to the bcfiles website you will see it. it will say old enterprise renewed???

That's not actually related to the new film.

hehe but still it would be nice to have that war like connie..

Tycoon the actor who plays Data is called Brent Spiner not Spencer.

personally i would like to see that the ent-E does go on, Picard could finally take that promotion, but mostly get stuck at a dest at starfleet HQ.

also if your going to ask about federation ships that were a main part to a show, then what happened to the defiant? what happened to voyager?

ummm ...... what happened to the klingon command ship that was used in the klingon attack on DS9?

it really doesnt matter what happened to them after what ever show or movie, they are off doing some thing else while we are hearing about another ship and crew.

thats about it.

but personally i would like to see a startrek movie from another races view, like the klingons or romulans.

he would never accept it. Kirk told/gave him the advise not accepting it because it would happening that he needed to abandon his ship.

I think Picard should become immortal.
After all Admiral would never do.

Immortal? To be honest that wouldn't make too much sense, be cool yes, but make any amount of sense, no. Unless he simply retired on Baku in which case he still wouldn't be immortal, he'd actually be lucky to get another 20 years...

well it could be that he .... was hurt and was unable to function as a captain, what ever.

resulting in him taking that promotion, OR instead becomes an ambassador as he did meld with both spock and .... ummm .... spock's father :nodding: so he would have gained the knowledg of both of them ... right?

like in the one TNG ep where spock went missing, picard felt he had to go and find him (but i also think he was ordered to):Puzzled: and at the end he melded with spock ... unless that was another episode?:confused:

This thread is generating some good ideas.

Whilst Paramount might be giving the crew for ST XI an unlimited budget, I still don't like the idea of JJ Abrams directing it. The fact that he is considering Russel Crowe to play the villain of the film is enough to reinforce that. Nothing against Russel, but I don't think he belongs in a trek film.

well im not sure what actor that is
*i dont know their names, only the ones they had from movies they were in*

but looking way back when, before any of the actors finally did get into the role, would you have thought that any of them would have been a star trek actor?

I doubt that, they will have a budget.

He is the guy that played Gladiator in the Gladiator film.

OH him.

sweeeet

That would be Russel Crowe.

...... ok .... so who is it now then?:confused:

We know that :lol: I was replying to a guy asking about Russel Crowe, and which films he was in etc. ;)

i think new effects would be great. Atmosphere visuals is damn great. They did the last babylon 5 movie and we saw a small battle in it of a few Warlocks fighting against centauri vorchans and it was small but damn great and awsome especially if you have seen the previous b5 stuff (that looked cheesy).

If atmosphere does this with a small scene like sacrifice of angels for a test, i cant wait to see that!

I think that would be pretty cool as well, or perhaps a large asteroid field if a planet seemed impractical for the plot?

I'm becoming increasing critical of Trek. I'm hoping to scrub Trek more and more for the next 10 years.

It would hard but maybe we could get rid of all these kids who think all good movies need a Borg battle.

agreed. The borg was an interesting twist.. but the more they had used them, the weaker they got. They should have stayed that unstoppable menace that they were in the first episode they aired them.

I always wanted to see more about the romulans. They always had it against the klingons but hardly any about this race.

What they should do with 11?

Perspective from Klingon ship and crew, during NCC-1701 and Kirk.

Nuff' said, really!

nope no klingons or so...

Romulans.

The Romulan War!

If i was going to make the new star trek movie it would be the following.

People entering the cinema room, everyone is seated and oke! movie starts.

Music starts.. not the familiar tone we know. Something modern, elektronic spacey.. Stars are streaking and music starts changing into more exciting tone. We see the title.. Its star trek XI!
The title fades away and we see stars again but the camera has stopped. Music has dropped but we hear a new modern space track. The camera goes down. Music starts playing louder while the camera zooms in. A solar system is being zoomed in, in a shakery position like battlestar galactica does. We see explosions everywhere, (Dead planets with lava etc are everywhere.) federation ships and romulan ships are battling with each other. Camera zooms fast in! Music is full to the beat, and modern elektronic. A new modern connie like the one of Gabe Koerner but really armoured and shiny like the effects of bsg and the new b5, is firing multiple phaser and torpedoes from all sides like a pirateboat to a rommie warbird. Explosions and shields are visible on both ships. Camera rolls to federation fighter that is firing on rom fighter. Suddenly a phaserbeam fires and just glimps above the fighter. Camera shakes like hell! Camera zooms to a miranda armoured looking class, and phasers are firing again. Camera turns to the target. A dead planet explodes hard!! Pieces of debris and shockwaves are everywhere. Slowly federation ships are turning in all the debris and shockwaves and are returning fire to the warbirds. No damages is visible to the ships while rocks hits the ships. We see in the distances, fed ships and vice versa that are really damaged ramming the enemy. And then we go to the main character!!

I think it would be a superb entrance. New spacey hard music like the one we sometimes hear in b5 and bsg. No knight music or so or orchestra but real spacey and elektronic.

THANK YOU!!!! I thought I was the only one. I've always wanted a real good movie on the Romulans (not the crap they put out for the last one) Something that got us involve like Star Trek VI

I say it's time The Romulan Empire was taken into the Federation.

Personally? I'd like to see a departure from the conventional Trek film... something with real depth and story.

Set after Nemesis/Dominion War, a battered Cardassian Union is on the verge of joining the Federation, a move opposed by remnants of the Obsidian Order, the Tal Shiar and Section 31. Basically I'd like to see something dealing with the intelligence side of Trek, and not just the crap they had Bashir do.

they should stop production right now and admit to everyone that they are all idiots for trying to reqrite trek history AGAIN!

I like the idea of the Cardassians joining the Federation. It would be strange yes, but different. That is what a Trek Series or Movie needs - Something Different / New.