When On Planets
 

Ok, so I was thinking earlier about every time someone beams down to and / or lands on a planet of unknown origin. They never die from some illness or anything? Ok, on occasion they may, but not on a large scale.

Just to think, firstly this planets atmosphere and general oxygen level is going to be considerably different to Earth, but also aren't there going to be loads of viruses in the air that they wouldn't have a cure for?

Take Earth for example. Not everywhere, but sometimes, depending on where you are on the planets, you can pick up different disease. Would this not then be the case for all these unknown planets that they go to?

You'd think they'd wear suits or something, but no, they transport down wearing nothing more than their starfleet uniform. They could pick up a million viruses, then transport back to the ships and give it to the crew.

Then you think of those ships / stations. All these different aliens, and they are all living in the same atmosphere and temperature.

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SSA they do scan the planet first to ensure it is safe and in any case M-Class worlds tend to breed very similar stuff to one another so many virus's are similar to Earth ones,when they cant scan for sum reason they might send a probe or a shuttlecraft in, on the galaxy class there are quarters for different envoiroments eg class,k,l,m,n,o,p etc etc etc so they all are breathing different stuff, any aliens who cant tlerate O2 wear suits, the tesnians for example can breath air but need 6 hours of boron gass a day

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But then, there are still illnesses. And you can't detect what you don't know about. No single planet is going to be exactly the same as another. Each will have many different viruses and such.

You can't scan for something that you don't know exists. And I doubt a ship will be able to scan for all the viruses. Granted, a ship would be able to tell whether a planet was suitable for life, but thats about it.

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True True

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Thas is the reason that there are biofilters in the transporter, to eliminate any viruses that may have been brought back, though going by shuttle would make my argument useless. And their scans can detect quite a lot, though you are again correct, they wont be able to catch everything.

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Also, they would pick up the organisms of the virus on scans. Even if they couldnt detect the virus itself, they would still pick up its biological elements.

In cases when they have not then a crewmember dies or somthing goes on with the bio-filters etc.

There is also the Voyager episode when Janeway and Chakotay caught a virus of some kind and had to be left on a M-Class planet to protect the crew.

As for different planets etc, the "Class" system is in place as an M-Class planet would support humanoid life, where as the Y-Class Planet needs EVO suits.

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in ENT they have to go throught decontamination mabe it was later introduced to be filtered out in the transport

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Have you actually watched anything other than Enterprise? What do the bio-filters do?
No offence intended but isnt that a rather silly comment.

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Perhaps you should watch more Voyager, bio filters have been mentioned countless times even in TOS if I remember

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Not to mention In Enterprise, they went through De-con after using shuttles.

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I remember that episode "Shades of grey" where the away team dident pick up that vine and it jabbed Cmdr Riker in the leg.

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Remeber that Poison Wesley avoided on Rubicon 3 when riker stopped that guard from killing him-no sensor picked that up,seriously though the silicon virus that Sato and Tucker picked up when they met the Organians

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When did they meet Organians?

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o yeah that what do you mean do i only watch enterprise i watch voyager ETC

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yeh but you forgot about Bio filters-anyway I said watch more-I was not implying you did'ny-just that you neede a refresher dose of trek

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ok i forgot the name

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Well in the Voyager episode "Demon," several of the senior officers beamed down to the Class-Y planetoid in EVO suits...

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is that the one where they get cloned

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yes, they get "cloned"

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o that was a good one have you seen the one where they brought it back and they decayed

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brought "it" back, what is "it"?

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the clones

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What episode is that!?

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you see them decaying i can't remember what it is


ah found it Course: Oblivion

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*runs off to put Voyager DVD's in DVD player* Thanks!

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no problem

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They didnt really bring anything back, the "Clones" forgot they were "Clones" and assumed the roles of their "Creators" and headed for the Alpha Quadrant. They developed an enhanced warp core that wasn't harmful to humans, of which killed them.

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You would almost think "This is just typical Voyager, they just come up with an enhanced warpdrive that is as fast as a transwarpdrive. And a few episodes before that they just discoverd how to make a quantum slipstreamdrive." You would almost think the crew consists mostly of scientific masterminds who are specialised in (quantumslipstream or trans)warpdrive theory. :lol:

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yeah but a few of them were clewed up janeway kim belana but they found alien tech and slipstream didn't work

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Well you have to admit, Voyager is the "Miracle Ship" ~ Reg Barclay

Not only that (lol) but they didn't do everything on their own, the ship was augmented with Borg Technology, Seven of Nine contained the collective knowlage of thousands of individuals.

A lot of the technology was stuff they found and played around with (SlipStream).

The TV Serries tends to generally focus on crews of merit. So yes they were damn clever.

Anyway back to topic;

The Planet Classification system (M-Class etc) defines to the audience the different viariables on each planet. Supposidly each solar system isn't that different from our own. So would these conditions change with a Binary Star System?

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M class could be Minshara class from what the Vulcans classified their planets, so M for minshara

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We already know that. The Vulcans directives became several of Starfleets aswell. (The Non-interference policy, the Planet Classification.)

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Sorry-I've been out of the forum for an hour-lot of catching up to do

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realize this should be stated in another thread, but M is the designation NASA uses for habitable worlds...pretty cool, huh!

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They copy Star Trek a lot of the time eg the space shuttle Enterprise,ion drives etc etc etc

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It is easier to convince a population, when you use familiar terms.

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True True-its even easier when youve got the cast of TOS there at Enterprises commisioning ceremony

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I thought it was being outside of a Y class atmosphere/environment for too long that killed them?

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The warp core was killing them,they needed to get to a class Y planet to recouperate and to find the other Voyager

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I do remember the advanced warp core, but I don't think thats what killed them. They thought it was, but then they figured out that they were the clones.

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The radiatin from the core was harmless to humans-when they figured out that they were the silverblood thingys they were able to see that the warp core was killing them and that the only way to survive was to find another class y planet

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Well, I still don't think the warp core killed them, but it could have started their disintegration or catalyzed it.

It's too bad the regular voyager didn't develop one.

Anyway, we could switch this to a new thread. Back to the topic.

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it is on topic sort as we were talking about the "demon planet"

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Not really, what we were just talking about was two Voyager episodes that included demon planets in the plot.

This thread is about the fact planets in Star Trek seem very similar and they beam down in Uniforms etc....

Edit: Thread on those episodes here:
http://forums.filefront.com/showthre...10#post3361210

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Generaly speaking it is usally safe to beam down to a planet, But as we have seen in some episodes they beam down wearing EV suits. But it wouldent be much of a episode if they beamed down into a safe environment all the time.

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Usually it is safe, though one of the first ENT episodes springs to mind, they beam to a planet, spend the night, and start hallucinating. An EV suit could have prevented this, even though the planet was supposidly class M.

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Yes, and one crew member came back having been combined with some of the vegitation on the planet, but that might have been the transporter, I cant remember....

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Yeah it was the transporter which filled crewman Ethan Novackavic's body with leaves-hence why I prefer using a shuttle

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Yes, but the transporter was new when that happened. By the time of TNG,DS9 and VOY that wouldn't happen. Although on very rare occasions something goes wrong.

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Yep it was new although he was a blue shirt,why could he not be a red shirt,it would have made tings more,how shall I say,entertaining to watch him being anatomically inverted tehehehehehehe