Kirk vs. Picard
 

This poll has probably been done before at some, but...
Which character is your favorite of the two? To be fair, please note that this poll is intended for fans who are at least somewhat familiar with both the original and TNG.

I have a hard time deciding between the two myself. I like them both nearly equally, but the TNG episode "The Best of Both Worlds" (the Locutus one) wins my vote in Picard's favor. I feel that was one of the greatest episodes of any show in the history of Sci-Fi.

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Well, they are both different, and both did different things.

How would Kirk had heald off against the Borg? How would Picard have dealt with the Voyager Probe? - Besides, the episodes (especially TOS) weren't really to my taste.

I'm not going to vote, simply because there are two different eras. You need to pit the two at the same task to determine who is "better"

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i like both of them!!! I choose picard but normally i choose both of them!

Picard: a person who likes poetry, art, philosophy, women and has feelings for other people and is gentle...

Kirk on the other hand is more a women dude(in his young ages) and for his friends he is gentle but he is more and faster rude then picard..
Like "BONES GET OF THERE YOU....."
Jean luc would never say this...

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I grew up with Kirk, and while Picard is a fine character he lacks the charm of Kirk in my opinion. Both in commanded vessel AND in personality. If it wern't for Patrick Steward (sp?) then Picard would have been too un-intresting to even pay attention to.

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ST Generations?
[EDIT: Post count 666, fitting that I'm listening to Highway to Hell]

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captain picard is beter no doubt about it, anyway i find kirk to be a bit annoying

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Ah, Generations. It was the movie that showed Kirk handing the reigns of the Enterprise to Picard. While I do like them both, I like Kirk better, because whenever I think of Star Trek, I think of Bill Shatner and Company. I loved how the NCC-1701 looked. (In my opinion, she was more beautiful without the refit, but apparently the nacelles gave her more speed, which is something that never made sense, seeing how she was capable of Warp 10 for about 15 minutes pre-refit, and Warp 9 for 2 Hours as emergency speed, with standard cruising speed Warp Factor 6. Of course, she was also the most unofficially modified ship in the fleet (unofficially meaning Montgomery did quite a few unendorsed things) Of course, they removed all of that when they did the refit. She also had the most Beautifully shaped Hull. God, how I'd love to own the studio models. Err...Yeah, Kirk was quite the innovator himself. As a matter of fact, Kirk was Picard's role model. Picard read everything he could about Kirk. So a lot of the things that Picard does, he does them in his own style, yes, but Kirk would have done something more dramatic with the exact same result.

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Your forgetting that the warp chart (what ever its called) was changed around the refit time, the reift IS faster. Also the refit did more than upgrade the speed, it adressed the Constituion's lack of armament arcs, and added better sheilds and general sysems.

Old Coni= Could only Fire torpedos forward and backwards and the same applyed to phasers.

Refit Coni= Now has three phaser banks on the bottom and top of the scaucer section two at the back and likely two on the bottom of the stardrive section. Seems to have lost rear torpedo launchers though?

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aaah and indeed warp 10 not possible change into a beast!

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Heh heh, I love that episode. I was telling one of my layman friends about it, and he thought I was joking. :D

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I haven't seen much of Kirk's movies/ series so for me the choise is pretty obvious; Picard all the way, I even made a couple of amature movies with a cell phone camera of me, sov001 and another friend playing him in a 'red allert' situation :rofl:You guys should have seen it, it was hilarious!

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ey ssssh!! We did survive the battle! full phasers and torpedoes zero elevation and boom i fell off my chair! :haha:

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there are quite a few dedicated kirk fans out there, have a look at these:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=kirk+picard

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=kirk+picard

the second one is actually quite a nice peice of editing :)
but still, i'd vote for picard.. somone really ought to make a fanfilm showing picard kicking kirk's butt..

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Picard rules!!

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Its simply not possible when Kirk has the power of Shirtlessness.
Shirtless Kirk>>>>Preachig Picard.

I've said it once, i'll say it one hundread times if I have to. Kirk wins based on this fact alone.

Picard Shows Us Why Hes better than Kirk
 

Picard Shows Us Why Hes better than Kirk:

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show....ating=nsfw_sfw

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oke i dont understand what he is saying but wow nice acting heheh

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:eek:

I'm scared.

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I always knew he was a better captain.

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Wow, that was weird.
But then of course if you ever heard William Shattner sing you know the very definition of weird.

In my opinion Kirk owns Picard for one very simple, yet powerful, exclamation:
"Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!"

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Like this?

http://captkock.ytmnd.com/

p.s. lol i cant stop laughing at that one.

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Almost :)
But I actually meant Shatner's "professional" singing. http://www.kontraband.com/show/show....&searchstring=
He produced several CDs already.

One more singing Star Trek hero:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=leonard+nimoy
He was on LSD and needed the money?

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Picard defenders have failed to prove their facts thus Kirk wins.

Kirk singing>>>>Picard Singing.
Shirtless Kirk>>>>Preaching Picard.
Picard fans clearly do not fathom the power of Kirk.

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Hmmm, well i like all star trek, but i watch tng the most, so i gotta vote for picard. Kirk is great too, but picard would have to be my fav, thus most of my screen names in games,ims, etc. are PICΔRЙ

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don't forget this picard's singing:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=picard+song

"the picard song".. i love that tune!!! this one is animated

oh and has kirk ever been assimilated by the borg and come back?
has kirk ever been trapped inside the holodeck?
has kirk ever saved the ship from a virus that infected the entire ship? (i don't actually know on this one.. has he?)

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Picard all the way. Kirk was a great captain, but the majority of his decisions were based on the shoot first, see if there are any survivors, shoot them, then forget about asking questions and make assumptions instead. Picard tends to study the situation and then make a smart choice. He had no problem destroying the Borg cube. Don't forget that Picard had a doctor who was much better looking than bones. Mind you, Scotty is the best engineer hands down. Tough call.

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But seriously, Kirk kicks arse. And you really have to understand that Kirk didn't really have the luxury of studying every problem, and for most of the problems Kirk had, the Answer was indeed to shoot.

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My vote cancels your non-vote if you dont vote you cancel your own opinion!
the BORG have the perfect vote your assimilated into the collective. you will make a good drone!

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IIRC in one of the movies (or was it from TNG episode with Spock on Romulus?) where Kirk is referred to using "Cowboy Diplomacy".

I go with Picard just casue I like TNG better. I actually hated Picard for first season or two of TNG and he grew to be my favorite Trek Captain.


But I think Kirk proved his Diplomatic skills in "The Undiscovered Country" and Picard also had his share of female admirers.

In combat I think the best Trek commander was Sisko followed closely by Kirk. Next up I would prefer Riker.

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Smooth-headedness ftw.

Picard all the way.

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Well Picard was a pain in the ass to people that he didnt know. Like those young ensigns vs picard.
Kirk was i think more friendly vs new people but still
Kirk > women
Picard > ship

mmh normally i choose Kirk but Picard is better in strategy and in diplomacy..

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:lol: so true.

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I would have to say Kirk don't know how many times kirk got in scotty's face, scotty i need more power, scotty i need power to the shields, scotty i need warp drive, scotty i need phasers, i think he was a ship and crew first capt..
And i quote Kirk "When your in the captains chair you can make a differance" if that's not a ship man iam asleep.-cheers

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One thing about Picard is that Patrick Stewart brought life to that character, who might otherwise have been boring and uninspired. Shatner was good as Kirk, but he had an easier personality and character outline to work with, and I think another actor could have played the part just as well.

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Kirk all the way.
Picard seemed to always have something up his ass.
I think he just needed to bang some alien ass and he'd be straight.

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Come on, Picard got laid every 11 episodes. Mind you, so did everyone, on retrospect. Except Geordi. Even Data got laid more than Geordi.

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Picard got laid once a season at MOST Fez.
Shirtless Kirk>>>Preaching Picard.
There is no other way. : >