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spawnsdeath1977 August 21st, 2005 01:29 PM

Hardpoint form scratch
 
Ok I downloaded some ships that have no Harpoints, Figuring that i could build one myself.
I got all the weapons on the ship and everything elsde that a ship needs,But , heres the problems that i am having,--- My Torpedos dont want to line up straight where i put them, and my phasers dont look quit right.
I have no idea what the spinner button does and getting frustrated quickly.Any help would be great.:uhoh:

CaptainFish August 21st, 2005 02:21 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
Use the BC SDK that has the Model Propertie Editor on it. Then read the directions on how to use. That should create Hardpoints for you.

spawnsdeath1977 August 21st, 2005 03:39 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
I have been using the MPE to make the Hardpoint, its the spinner buttons and the lining up the weapons that i am having problems with. this is a challenge that has gotten the better of me which dont happen too often

CaptainFish August 21st, 2005 04:27 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
lol i don't blame you i hate MPE. The way i do it, is i use an existing hardpoint. Say from a Stock Galaxy. Change the scripts so it loads ingame. Then I use MPE to get the X,Y,Z Cordinates and type them into the HP manually. After that, I load in extra weapons systems. Say i want to add more phasers i'll add more phasers. Each time checking it in game. I save the ship after i get weapon positions done. After that i go in and add cosmetic effects for the weapons. I'll change a Klingon Disruptor to a script in the Tactical/projectiles folder. I'll change it from the stock phaser beams to a more streamlined one, like the CG Sov Phaser texture.

Its pretty much all just building on the original script and changeing out what you don't want happening. Thats how i do it.

spawnsdeath1977 August 21st, 2005 04:51 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
Thanks alot, I'll do that.
Ok what about the ships that i dont have hardpoints, Like i said before, i an starting off form scratch.
Also what does the spinner button do?

CaptainFish August 21st, 2005 06:51 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
Ok, to do this you go to bc/Scripts/Ships. You find an existing file open up the py version.

Change the end of the model name to whatever ship you are trying to put into BC. After that, go to save as, and change the name to whatever it is your going to call the ship ingame. Then you Create the Hardpoint with the EXACT same name as the file you just created useing a pre-existing script.

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 10:09 AM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
Ok, so i just use the py from another to creat the py for the ship i am making a hardpoint for, seems simple. I'll give it a try. Thanks!

Usually i just change things around w/ an existing Hardpoint, but i wantes a challenge so here it is.
Thanks again, I'll keep you posted. Later

CaptainFish August 22nd, 2005 01:54 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
Well.... If you wanted a real challange. You can always copy them manually by typeing them :-p

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 02:49 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
I've been doing that for some time, Not a whole script. Scripting in Python is fun and a pain in the ______!
But that all part of modding and testing your abilities

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 02:52 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
oh by the way i did the changes in the py like you told me, but when i go to save as it saves as a text script. Do i need to compile it in Python?

CaptainFish August 22nd, 2005 04:33 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
no, i forgot to tell you to change the extension at the end of the file to .py you may need to have windows show extensions to get it to work.

Also, you may need to change the scripts from read-only. Depends how much you've modded BC.

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 04:56 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
The extention to the pyc file is what you are talking about?

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 04:58 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
I have Python installed on my puter so i dont get py or pyc extentions, i just get Python File for all the scripts.

CaptainFish August 22nd, 2005 06:04 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
no, change it to .py instead of .txt

the game automaticly generates the .pyc script.

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 06:38 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
ok I added my ship tp the game and i got ??? for the icon and the pyc did not generate.
What ami doing wrong? Thanks for the help so far

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 06:46 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
ok nevermind what i said about the pyc file not being generated, i found it but still having probs with no icon and just the ??? in BC

CaptainFish August 22nd, 2005 06:49 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
those can be changed at a later date. As for the icon, i hafta look cuz most of my mods don't have ship icons cuz i'm to lazy to add them :-p. But i belive you have to create a folder with the ship targa icon in it. and as for the ??? you can change that useing BCMP after your finshed with the mod.

spawnsdeath1977 August 22nd, 2005 09:18 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
ok Now i am really upset. I wnt and opened the hardpoint to do some fine tuning in MPE and when i load the hardpoint nothing shows up as to what i put in it when i wrote the hardpoint the first time. Anny idea why this is happeneing?

spawnsdeath1977 August 31st, 2005 11:00 AM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/eekx.gifOK i fixed the problem with opening the hard point.

Now i go and put my ship in the game and i get the Black screen and yellow cursor of death. any help here please?

JimmyB76 August 31st, 2005 07:43 PM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
console report will describe what's going wrong...

spawnsdeath1977 September 4th, 2005 11:49 AM

Re: Hardpoint form scratch
 
Thank you, thank you thank you all for all the help. My ship is in game and running smoothly. I got my icon for my ship and everything now i just have to figure out how to package it up so i can put it on bdfiles.
Thanks Again for all the help.


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