Ship Mod
 

Hello to all you,

A little about what im doing,
Im currently trying to convert federation on Armada II into Stargate ships....
but ive run out of ships to use lol
Therefore i would like to ask any experianced Modders out there if they can help, me by merging 2 ms3d files of a selection of ships and texturing them, that would be much appriciated by a shall we say less experianced modder (i can do a odfs and the likes but making new ships = big black hole for me) or if they have there own ships made if i could have a copy?

I do not have any intentions of distributing work if given or made.

If theres anyone out there who can help i could really do with some help.

Thanks for reading
R,Pogson

Re: Ship Mod
 

There were many attempt to make Stargate mods for Armada II. And everyone had the same problem... For some reason people are not interested in SG models.
I personally only because I did not see the series (only a few episodes) and because ST ships mean bigger challenge :)

Sorry, I know that's not the answer you was waiting for, but I didn't want to give you false hope...

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Thanks for the reply tho.... I have figured out how to use some of ms3d I'll try create my own but one problem I'm having with it is my game crashes when I try to use a sod which I have retextured( I merged 2ships) any idea why it's doing so and ones that do work won't fire weapons lol if you have any ideas I'd appreciate them thanks for taking the time to reply

Rpogson

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How does the sod look in the strom 3d viewer? does it show up?

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In ms3d it shows up fine and textured.
storm 3d?

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It's a tool to see how your models will look ingame.
It is possible that you didn't deleted one of the node trees and that causes the problem.

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I have no idea what nods are lol

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thanks k_merse

Nods something to do with hard points right lol?
Its some wraith ships from another format im experimenting with if i remember correctly threy were 3ds. files or obj. not sure if that helps.?
hardpoints are created using the joint tool or am i barking up the wrong tree?
thanks k_merse

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1. Export the file out from Milkshape using the sod exporter.
2. Place the respective files (sod file - the model and the tga file - the graphics) into the proper trek directories.
3. Use the storm 3D viewer and see if the model is visible. If not, there is most likely a problem with your hierarchy. The Milkshape 3D SOD Tutorial should help you sort it out. A easy test would be to delete your exsiting hierarchy and export it out without one. The export will crerat a barebone hierarchy for you. If the model now looks ok in the Storm 3d viewer, you have a hierarchy problem in the orginal.

Milkshape 3D SOD Tutorial - http://armada2.filefront.com/file/Mi...Tutorial;24066

Storm 3D Viewer - http://armada2.filefront.com/file/Storm_3d;3182

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3DS and OBJ files are different extensions. 3DS for instance is the default file type 3DS Max. These files, just like Milkshape 3D's MS3D or Armada II's SOD contain a 3D mesh, a model of the ship. To make them work in Armada II you always have to open the models in a 3D editor (MS3D or 3DS Max) and export them as SOD files.

Check the tutorial peperman suggested.

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Thanks guys ill get looking at it right away.
Thanks again.:)

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Unfortunately guys i have had no luck with the sod.
Can anyone spare a moment to take a look for me or have anymore advice?

I will be of work for a bit joy of moving RAF station lol

Any help id appreciate guys

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What do you mean by "no luck"? You can't export your model to SOD, they don't appear ingame, they crash your game?

Basically, making a model to work in Armada II is pretty easy.
1. Make a model of any kind
2. Define textures, the texture files have to be in TGA format
3. Make a proper node tree (this is very important or the model won't appear ingame)
4. Export it to SOD
5. Define the hardpoints in the ODF exactly as they were in the node tree

YOu can mess up only these things if you have problems with a model.

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When the model has a complete set of hardpoints, connected correctly following the tutorial on this site, and textured using tga files, and exported to armada 2 sod it crashes the game at around 95-100% on the load screen. without hardpoints the ship loads but doesnt fire weapons, but is visable.

Thanks

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The mess now appears in game but as the white cube with the red bug on it which i think is something to do with the textures?

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If the game crashes on the loading screen, it means an error in the coding, not in the model. I don't know what did you change in the code so far, but the error must be there. Maybe you were referring to a non-existent hardpoints, or you misspelled them, or there is a " missing in the code. Those are my best guesses.

The white cube is called the model bug. This means that the ODF file cannot find the SOD with the same name as itslef or as it is defined in the "basemname = " line.
This means that the ODF is working fine, but it can't find the appropriate SOD. Did you deleted the SOD or changed its name?

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Send me the milkshape file, the sod and textures and I will take a look at it for you. pepperman AT hotmail dot com

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Pepperman, thanks a lot for the invite for help but i had some time of during shifts at work just got internet access again and went through the whole process again, well started from scratch tbh, but thanks anyway im experimenting with tauri ships wraith and ancient. but im running out of things lol struggling with ms3d.

I have any problems is the invite possibly open for any future dilemmas

Rpogson:)