Special Weapon ideas

[undedavenger]

So I'm making myself a TOS TC and a TMP TC at the same time. Two things I want an opinion on:

1. I'm making Photons and warp drive special weapons for TOS, since they were the most advanced technology available at that time. Do you guys think the same should apply to TMP? Actually, if I decide to go in that direction, I can just make separate TOS and TMP races for each Empire.

2. I was thinking about an ionization cloud, as has been done in the novels and TNG several times. A photon torp fires, bursts in space, creating an ionized zone that blinds sensors and prevents beaming. Possible? Can you set a torp to fire at a specific spot and not an object? Can it erupt and create a cloud of some kind?

Suggestions would be appreciated!

As a side note: I also tweaked and expanded the TMP phasers weapon. Now I get two streams at the same target, just like TWOK, and I've got some others made for the rollbar cannons on the Miranda!

[CanadianBorg]

Originally Posted by undedavenger

1. I'm making Photons and warp drive special weapons for TOS, since they were the most advanced technology available at that time. Do you guys think the same should apply to TMP? Actually, if I decide to go in that direction, I can just make separate TOS and TMP races for each Empire.

Warp drive, maybe not. By the time of TOS (by that, I'm assuming the mid-2200s, about the time of the five-year mission), warp drive has been around for two centuries, and is therefore not really a new technology (Cochrane made his first flight in the 2060s). Photons are more likely, because true replication is still not possible (at least not without a starbase's power generators).

Originally Posted by undedavenger

2. I was thinking about an ionization cloud, as has been done in the novels and TNG several times. A photon torp fires, bursts in space, creating an ionized zone that blinds sensors and prevents beaming. Possible? Can you set a torp to fire at a specific spot and not an object? Can it erupt and create a cloud of some kind?

That's an interesting principle, but I'm not sure. Possibly, but you'd have to do some research there.

[FallenGraces]

Originally Posted by undedavenger

2. I was thinking about an ionization cloud, as has been done in the novels and TNG several times. A photon torp fires, bursts in space, creating an ionized zone that blinds sensors and prevents beaming. Possible? Can you set a torp to fire at a specific spot and not an object? Can it erupt and create a cloud of some kind?

sorry if this makes little sense as i just woke up lol

1- Good idea in my mod that in and of itself is a special for everyone either you use the weapon or you go to warp. But thats me as i never like the default warp of A2.

as for 2- you can probably use the ion cloud thing from the klingon special and just have it spawn a special .sod have it look like a red (like i said tired) neb and have it have the attributes of the purple neb. (matura? again tired -_-" ) it causes the nebula to appear at the area without a target. Though not permanent

[starfox1701]

Originally Posted by undedavenger

2. I was thinking about an ionization cloud, as has been done in the novels and TNG several times. A photon torp fires, bursts in space, creating an ionized zone that blinds sensors and prevents beaming. Possible? Can you set a torp to fire at a specific spot and not an object? Can it erupt and create a cloud of some kind?

Doesn't 8472's nebula weapon do that?

[the Starfleet Kid]

Originally Posted by undedavenger

1. I'm making Photons and warp drive special weapons for TOS, since they were the most advanced technology available at that time. Do you guys think the same should apply to TMP? Actually, if I decide to go in that direction, I can just make separate TOS and TMP races for each Empire.

2. I was thinking about an ionization cloud, as has been done in the novels and TNG several times. A photon torp fires, bursts in space, creating an ionized zone that blinds sensors and prevents beaming. Possible? Can you set a torp to fire at a specific spot and not an object? Can it erupt and create a cloud of some kind?

1. The original Enterprise relied on her phasers far more often than photons. In the movies, photons kind of came into their own. But it really depends on the greater picture of what you want those weapons to be able to achieve-- for warp drive to be used as a special weapon will REALLY change your gameplay.

2. Targeting an area is just a 'targetLocation' but it doesn't work nearly as well with photons since they don't produce any sort of splash damage. Artillery photons can be tough to work with, and the ion storm special weapon, while useful, really doesn't work without a lot of tweaking and the right .SOD object. It certainly won't block sensors, and beaming is hardcoded-- the only thing which prevents it is a shielded target. It's not terribly easy because so many of the weapons in-game are difficult to get to do a certain thing a certain way. But there's no reason you can't get through with trial and error.

[undedavenger]

For the warp drive to be a special, I figure, first thing is to disable warping. Then you should be able to use something like the slipstream special weapon or something based on the Borg Transwarp. I mean, after all, you could rationalize that a map represents a sector of space, so warping is not really feasable. But a warp jump, a la the "Picard Maneuver" would make sense. For TOS and TMP, I'm trying to make the Special weapons more like special tactics. Maybe make the warp jump not use special energy, but damage your engines every time you use it. Then you would not be as likely to use it constantly.

I've decided to pretty much rule out the ion burst, since it would not really affect gameplay all that much. All the enemy need do is dodge it. I was thinking more about firing it on a ship you want to protect, making her impossible to detect on sensors for a short while.

As for the TOS photons, the fact that they are not used all that often is the very reason to make them a special. Then all the ships will be more likely to use phasers in combat.

[archerscott]

Originally Posted by undedavenger

For the warp drive to be a special, I figure, first thing is to disable warping. Then you should be able to use something like the slipstream special weapon or something based on the Borg Transwarp. I mean, after all, you could rationalize that a map represents a sector of space, so warping is not really feasable. But a warp jump, a la the "Picard Maneuver" would make sense. For TOS and TMP, I'm trying to make the Special weapons more like special tactics. Maybe make the warp jump not use special energy, but damage your engines every time you use it. Then you would not be as likely to use it constantly.

I've decided to pretty much rule out the ion burst, since it would not really affect gameplay all that much. All the enemy need do is dodge it. I was thinking more about firing it on a ship you want to protect, making her impossible to detect on sensors for a short while.

As for the TOS photons, the fact that they are not used all that often is the very reason to make them a special. Then all the ships will be more likely to use phasers in combat.

I like the ideas. I think having special weapons for tactics is very good. I also like the fact you want some sort of cost attached to using the special weapons.

"No such thing as a free lunch!"

The transwarp feature will work. You can disable warp in the option panel of every game anyway.

But you can't disable transporters. Only shields prevent beaming. So you could develop a shield generator special weapon?

[starfox1701]

You know the klingon commando weapon can be adaptied to do shuttles and they will go through shields. You can't shoot them down at least; I have never seen it done; so thats one way to do boarding without lowering the shields.

[C.A.B.A.L.]

Commando teams can be shot down, but only with the point defense phaser. They also work great for missiles if you change the boarding party size to 0.

[starfox1701]

Never thought about using them for missles. I always went with the Antimatter mine for that.