Borg Incursion VR?
 

Okay there some questions I have conserning the next Borg Incursion installment:

What does VR mean?:confused:

How "acurate" are the ships going to be?
Approximatly how big is it going to be(file size)?:confused:

Approximatly how big is it going to be(ships and stations)?

When will it be released?

Where will it be released?
Will it be released at armada2files?:confused:
Does it use the stock weapons or good looking weapons?:confused: :deal:

Whats the theme?
Does Major A Payne have a british accent(optional)?:confused:

Thank you for your time.

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What does VR mean?:confused:

VR doesn't, in this case, stand for Virtual Reality, but more for "Vital Responses"

How "acurate" are the ships going to be?

Within the comfines of the game engine they are as accurate as possible. This is also as I've done them myself. Build times and resource costs are quite high, but then they have to fall into the usability of the single player (as the entire mod is being tailored to this)

Approximatly how big is it going to be(file size)?:confused:

Unknown at present, but the current status of the mod (federation playable ships/station, higher detail planets), is aprox 109mb decompressed and around 37mb when zipped.

Approximatly how big is it going to be(ships and stations)?

Ship and station sizes are estimated within the game engine. I have kept fairly large sizes (as previously seen in posted images), but there are possible pathing problems to take into account.

When will it be released?

I generally tend to work at my own speed which means that it'll take longer than normal (The good news is, even though a few minor bugs were found in the initial Alpha test the current status of the mod is such that it is bug free).

Where will it be released?
Will it be released at armada2files?:confused:

As it currently stands the mod is set for a wide spectrum release. This means that both here and AFC will receive a copy of the final mod.

Does it use the stock weapons or good looking weapons?:confused: :deal:

Yes and no. As i have very little experience with textures I tend not to touch them, so alot of the weapons textures are donated by other people. Achilles, for example, has done a fine job with a couple of federation torpedo sprites.

Whats the theme?

Basically put its more of the same from the original but set around 2 years later than BI2.

Does Major A Payne have a british accent(optional)?:confused:

No comment!! :p

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"Approximatly how big is it going to be(ships and stations)?"
I ment how many? as in: will it have 4x construction ships, 12x shipyards?

how about in .rar? under 10 MB?

I'm excellect with weapon sprites I could do some very nice torps, phasers, and pulses?

I gess I'll have to continue to read you post in "toshiba Sam" computer voice
(very dull).

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"Approximatly how big is it going to be(ships and stations)?"
I ment how many? as in: will it have 4x construction ships, 12x shipyards?

Ah, now I follow you. Anyway. Theres a complete overhaul of the original selection of stations and non combat based ships (1 of each to replace the originals and because theres a normal selection of stations there isn't a need for any others).

how about in .rar? under 10 MB?

Unfortunately, not. Its around 30mb at the current time.

I'm excellect with weapon sprites I could do some very nice torps, phasers, and pulses?

I'm open to all offers of texture work so feel free to email me anything you may have done (mapayne@mail.com)



LOL "Toshiba sam". Thats a new one.

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Will it be released at armada2files?

As it currently stands the mod is set for a wide spectrum release. This means that both here and AFC will receive a copy of the final mod.

****What about www.starbase176.com -it has no files as of yet

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Medafusion. By "wide spread" release I mean it'll be made available to anyone who wishes to host the mod. BTW. Is starbase176 yours by any chance??

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O-O-O-O ok
and yes

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How did you get a site?

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i bought it here r the specs
4GB of storage
75 GB transfer( monthly)
$20.00 a month

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Major I thought you were not releasing Borg Incursion VR?

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Chyrstalis. That was BI3 that was cancelled. I was having terrible problems trying to get the AI to work with the amount of ships and stations that were originally in the Federation side (35 combat ships, 17 stations and 7 non combat ships). The AI would never make it to the end of the AI lists so the bigger ships would never be seen. BI:VR is a revamp of BI2 and BI3 combined. I'm using the best models that I can lay my hands on as well, which is why its taking far longer than expected.

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HELLO!!! CAN I HELP?!!! or is it already done... ?

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if I'm assuming Correctly?
the fed side is all there is.

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<-< payne, mind wating for my ncc-1701z model?

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOKS GREAT i would place tumbs up but i am typing in QUICK REPLY anyway then talking bout non sense GREAT JOB ON THAT MODEL

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To be honest, it looks ok, but the textures are a little stretched. You may want to consider fixing that.

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Dragon_Master. Currently only the federation side is completed (up to the AI side of things as modifying the AI will take alot of fiddling). Borg is in currently being worked on, and I maybe tackling the Romulans after. The cardies will most likely be last as Achilles has some spanking models to look forward to (he's been redoing alot of them and was in the process of redoing the Hutet Class last I spoke with him). As for helping. Well anything you might have to offer fill me in with some details, and I'll look over. I'm especially likely to have some specialised maps for this mod which are tailored for additional, map only structures and ships.

Looking over that model you've got pictured I'll wait upon its arrival and see whats been done to it.

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Just sitting at work thinking wether to complete the klingon Dreadnought or Hutet tonight, guess I better get that Hutet done :p

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Theres no rush. Achilles. Besides which, your modelling these things. Its entirely your choice which you want to do. :naughty:

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i could release model today if you'd like, ill send it to you and sherman. And the tgas are supposed to be stretched out like that.... Oh did i mention that this ship i made kills all? I think i went overboard on the weapons and the class 194 shockwave..... But what kinda maps would u like payne?

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Can i have a copy too?

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>-> why not?

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thank you

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Dragon_Master. I'm utterly speechless, and more than a little mortified. Whilst your Ent-Z is a relatively good idea, what did you do to the model?? I mean I don't mind people messing around with my meshes, but this reminds me of very early SOD editor model edits. Sorry if I sound extremely critical but I do hope this won't be released..........I really dont' know where to begin, but lets see.

1) The actual mesh is very poorly edited (I'm not sure what happened but your previous model efforts havent' been anywhere near as bad).
2) Whilst on the subject of meshes. Why the adding of so many polys?? You practically doubled the original poly count of my mesh when what you added shouldn't have increased the poly count to much higher than it originally was.
3) Again on the subject of the mesh, when you make an edit check all the polys are aligned before converting it. Theres so many badly aligned faces on the outer edging of the saucer that its not funny.
4) The textures shouldnt' need to be as badly stretched as they were. When you edit a model please can you re-apply the textures so that they look like they fit.

Sorry to say this, but I wouldn't even play test the weapons, even though the weapons you've chosen would prove most useful in SP. Also I don't know about credit but if you do decide to release this (and on this I actually won't do anything to stop you), I hope that Queball (who made the original Premonition) doesnt' happen to see it (and he does come over to the site every once in a while), otherwise he may frown quite alot.

Now, before anyone says anything. Consider my criticisms above. All thats really needed is a rethink over the mesh itself.

*note to self. Dont' hand out unconverted meshes to anyone in future until I have proof they won't make a very poor edit.

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talk about space junk. Why would you even publicly display something like this? My god. I'm glad I bailed on armada...things have really gone down the crapper.

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so the model is being from a premenition to a mk Z wow! wish i was good the best thing a can make is a head of like the ares/duantless if i am luky LOL

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>-< obviously its something with your comp, my model looks fine, no messed up meshes or tga problems. If you're refering to the nacelles or the time drive i put in, they're supposed to look like that! And the mesh IS SUPPOSED TO BE STRETCHED!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a ship from the future and the more streamlined the ship is, the faster it goes. (for you idiots, thinner = faster. well not in a2 but its a concept)

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Well Dragon Master. Lets see where to begin. Firstly, I try to give you some advice which, the way I put it is downright friendly, and you totally ignore that, so I'll lay it on the line for you with this little.

"Disclaimer
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You download this model and its associated texture files with the following understanding:
1) That you will not distribute any part of this zip in any capacity for any means of profit.
2) That you will refrain from editing any part of the mesh and/or textures without permission from the original creator of this work.
3) Any image usage or reconversions/additional usage will carry the above credits."

Remember this?? It is printed clearly in the readme that I provided when I sent you the model. Numbers 2 and 3 apply in this situation.

Firstly, you break number 2 in so much as you completely defaced the mesh in a manner as such to make it more than undesirable. You have also destroyed 4 days of my model rebuilding with this monstrosity.

Secondly, you break number 3 by not including credits to the original creators (especially the textures) of the work.

Finally, permission to release this POS on A2files.com or AFC.com (any other sites I have little to do with, but if its seen elsewhere in any shape or form then you can expect me to take action) is not given so don't bother. I won't be associated with this and I find it insulting that you think its fine to go very poorly editing another persons work.

As for your comment insinuating that "its something with my comp", is utter bull, and you know it. This is one of the worst (if not THE worst) attempt at kitbashing/editing ANY model I've ever seen (and I've seen and done some bad ones in my time).

I did go nice on you with the previous reply, but this time you've stepped over the line. Don't ask me for any other models in future until you can prove that you won't mess it up.

*note to site/forums admins: You won't believe how much I've had to restrain myself with this reply.

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I don't blame you MaP. It does look like utter crap.

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That really was restrained congrats. Yeah sorry Dragon Master but that isn't looking good, is it the picture or has part of the saucer been deleted. Also by stretched he isn't meaning the design but the texture application on the saucer, the texture was made for a particular shape and you'd need to reapply it well to get it looking even close to right and I dont think you've tried.

The back is mistake ridden, I dont know what look you were going for but if those strange face extrusions are intentional then they dont match the saucer at all.

Also how rude could you be. You have been given a model in it's editable form containing Major a Payne's, Queball's and Azel's work, that showed far more trust than I'd give to someone who I didn't know and when you were offered decent critism of the result you threw it back in his face.

To get back on target slightly, MaP, did you find a good Queen ship to work off?

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No Achilles. There is a slightly better than armada version in the unity mod for SFC3, but I'll have to find out who made the original. I've approach Pneu and he hasn't made any borg units of any kind (its going to be one of those weekends I think).

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ATTN: Red Dragon. I'm very disturbed that something I created (textures) would be abused in such a way. While I gave Major special dispensation to use my work I'm sure he didnt intend for such a monstrosity to be born.

I'm equally annoyed that you chose to ignore Major Payne when he politely gave sound advice to you.

More seriously, your less-than careless distribution, and your apparent ignorance of any associated readme file included with the original model/s does not amuse me at all. Therefore I feel I have no choice but to demand that all instances of this that have been either been uploaded to any site or distributed to any other persons be removed and/or destroyed.

I have no problem with other people modifying my work for their own pleasure, but my permission MUST be sought before any public release or disribution of any kind.

Rest assured, I'm very protective of my work and I will actively pursue any instance of breach of my intellectual property and/or the terms contained within the readme - whether Major Paynes' modified readme for Armada1/2 or my original.

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Go easy on himn guys Please! remember, 2/3 of his brain is filled with hormones he can't be held accountable for his ignorance. pretty soon it will happen to me to. I'm a Christian and I'm annoying his God mocking signature because he's 15. He lost half his maturity a year and a half ago! there are only a rare few of us that maintain there maturity through the teen years, but most of us get is back by 19:) (26 at the latest!).

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:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: PAYNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
When i release models, i take a reasonable amount of crap..... but this is too much. Im a high schooler with a crush, 8 classes a day and i get 2 hrs of sleep each night.... AND YOU WANNA DISS MY MODELS???????????????????? SOME OF YOUR MODELS ARE JUST AS BAD PAYNE!

To illisterate my feelings toward payne right now, here's a little pic:

:tommygun:
:dpistols: :teach: I am payne!
:aug2:

:devil:

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Dragon, should just just accept when you are wrong, you've had it pretty light so far considering.

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oh, im am not taking this lying down....... i even went as far to make a few hilarious pics of funny ways payne, kirgen, and achilles could die in bunny form..... look in the upload..... And as for having it taken off the server, ill jost get my friend over at Clan Aftershock to host it. Im gone from this topic..... to much flame, i would appreciate a modertor closing this. :cya:

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well then u wont be able to ever step into the Major Moddeling sites

NO ONE will ever let u use there models ever agian

and dont think i wont pass the word along i will pass the word along

people like u are a disgrace to the true spirit of Star trek Armada modelling

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Hmmmm, seems like I've bruised an ego here. Well Dragon_Master. If you had abided by the conditions which were set out in my readme, which you either read and chose to ignore, or just didn't bother reading then you deserve everything you get. BTW. If you do release it via another website then you may find that trouble can come in all shapes and sizes. ISP's don't look kindly on theft of any kind these days. Just as well your protected by the anonimity of this forum really.

As for you going. Good riddence to bad rubbish I say. There are a hell of alot of modders out there that deserve and obtain respect with the way they go about things. In this case though you are not one of them.

Just remember what I said in my return PM.

Oh and quick edit. I notice you haven't appologised to Queball though, seeing as he did make the original model and the original texture set. Perhaps if you were to put a little thought into your responses then you wouldn't have had this problem in the beginning.

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Right, thread closed, Dragon Master, read the readme's, thats why they are called that.