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[ST]PAdm-Medafusion December 10th, 2004 03:14 PM

Re: Borg Incursion VR?
 
Can i have a copy too?

Dragon_Master December 10th, 2004 05:59 PM

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>-> why not?

[ST]PAdm-Medafusion December 10th, 2004 06:54 PM

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thank you

Major A Payne December 10th, 2004 09:52 PM

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Dragon_Master. I'm utterly speechless, and more than a little mortified. Whilst your Ent-Z is a relatively good idea, what did you do to the model?? I mean I don't mind people messing around with my meshes, but this reminds me of very early SOD editor model edits. Sorry if I sound extremely critical but I do hope this won't be released..........I really dont' know where to begin, but lets see.

1) The actual mesh is very poorly edited (I'm not sure what happened but your previous model efforts havent' been anywhere near as bad).
2) Whilst on the subject of meshes. Why the adding of so many polys?? You practically doubled the original poly count of my mesh when what you added shouldn't have increased the poly count to much higher than it originally was.
3) Again on the subject of the mesh, when you make an edit check all the polys are aligned before converting it. Theres so many badly aligned faces on the outer edging of the saucer that its not funny.
4) The textures shouldnt' need to be as badly stretched as they were. When you edit a model please can you re-apply the textures so that they look like they fit.

Sorry to say this, but I wouldn't even play test the weapons, even though the weapons you've chosen would prove most useful in SP. Also I don't know about credit but if you do decide to release this (and on this I actually won't do anything to stop you), I hope that Queball (who made the original Premonition) doesnt' happen to see it (and he does come over to the site every once in a while), otherwise he may frown quite alot.

Now, before anyone says anything. Consider my criticisms above. All thats really needed is a rethink over the mesh itself.

*note to self. Dont' hand out unconverted meshes to anyone in future until I have proof they won't make a very poor edit.

starforce2 December 10th, 2004 10:00 PM

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talk about space junk. Why would you even publicly display something like this? My god. I'm glad I bailed on armada...things have really gone down the crapper.

[ST]PAdm-Medafusion December 11th, 2004 05:24 AM

Re: Borg Incursion VR?
 
so the model is being from a premenition to a mk Z wow! wish i was good the best thing a can make is a head of like the ares/duantless if i am luky LOL

Dragon_Master December 11th, 2004 07:44 AM

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>-< obviously its something with your comp, my model looks fine, no messed up meshes or tga problems. If you're refering to the nacelles or the time drive i put in, they're supposed to look like that! And the mesh IS SUPPOSED TO BE STRETCHED!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a ship from the future and the more streamlined the ship is, the faster it goes. (for you idiots, thinner = faster. well not in a2 but its a concept)

Major A Payne December 11th, 2004 08:05 AM

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Well Dragon Master. Lets see where to begin. Firstly, I try to give you some advice which, the way I put it is downright friendly, and you totally ignore that, so I'll lay it on the line for you with this little.

"Disclaimer
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You download this model and its associated texture files with the following understanding:
1) That you will not distribute any part of this zip in any capacity for any means of profit.
2) That you will refrain from editing any part of the mesh and/or textures without permission from the original creator of this work.
3) Any image usage or reconversions/additional usage will carry the above credits."

Remember this?? It is printed clearly in the readme that I provided when I sent you the model. Numbers 2 and 3 apply in this situation.

Firstly, you break number 2 in so much as you completely defaced the mesh in a manner as such to make it more than undesirable. You have also destroyed 4 days of my model rebuilding with this monstrosity.

Secondly, you break number 3 by not including credits to the original creators (especially the textures) of the work.

Finally, permission to release this POS on A2files.com or AFC.com (any other sites I have little to do with, but if its seen elsewhere in any shape or form then you can expect me to take action) is not given so don't bother. I won't be associated with this and I find it insulting that you think its fine to go very poorly editing another persons work.

As for your comment insinuating that "its something with my comp", is utter bull, and you know it. This is one of the worst (if not THE worst) attempt at kitbashing/editing ANY model I've ever seen (and I've seen and done some bad ones in my time).

I did go nice on you with the previous reply, but this time you've stepped over the line. Don't ask me for any other models in future until you can prove that you won't mess it up.

*note to site/forums admins: You won't believe how much I've had to restrain myself with this reply.

Kirgen December 11th, 2004 11:23 AM

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I don't blame you MaP. It does look like utter crap.

Achilles December 11th, 2004 04:27 PM

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That really was restrained congrats. Yeah sorry Dragon Master but that isn't looking good, is it the picture or has part of the saucer been deleted. Also by stretched he isn't meaning the design but the texture application on the saucer, the texture was made for a particular shape and you'd need to reapply it well to get it looking even close to right and I dont think you've tried.

The back is mistake ridden, I dont know what look you were going for but if those strange face extrusions are intentional then they dont match the saucer at all.

Also how rude could you be. You have been given a model in it's editable form containing Major a Payne's, Queball's and Azel's work, that showed far more trust than I'd give to someone who I didn't know and when you were offered decent critism of the result you threw it back in his face.

To get back on target slightly, MaP, did you find a good Queen ship to work off?


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