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Old April 3rd, 2014   #51
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Well, while you're getting all political, do you have a solution?

One of my greatest pet peeves is when someone gets political but doesn't offer a solution. Creating new parties isn't really an option because they don't every attain a higher office. The reason the Tea Party is even in office is because they keep insisting they're the "true Republicans." In other words, the only way a new party gains acceptance is to pretend to be some other group.

Personally, I have decided that politics is a waste of time. Everyone is better off organizing at the community level, and working together to make their own communities better. Trusting state or federal level politicians to help you is a waste of time, especially since the vast majority (maybe even all) of them are only interested in their own political and financial security.
My solution? It's called waking up to reality. America's first biggest mistake is that they came to the conclusion that electing a white-knight in shining armour was going to come in and save the day (Obama). If Elizabeth Warren was running for the next presidency, they'd be doing the same thing, but she's not. This time they complain about how fucked up their country is. But they do nothing, when there is lots to do.

American democracy is DEAD on a federal scale; but it still exists on state level, and that's what matters most. Large corporations are having a more difficult time taking over the individual states, I don't know why, but they're meeting more resistance than their money can deal with. If more people would speak to their state representatives, and actually band together, they could probably put forward an amendment or two about how "corporations being people" and "money in politics" is not just, and is literal corruption - that is the only thing above the Supreme Court, who are also corporate owned.

It's not hard. 99% of the populace can beat 1% of the populace, regardless of financial status. If you're not going to do anything, fine, just don't move to another country, because if you're not willing to fight for whatever future you could have, then you wouldn't be willing to fight for whatever kind of future I may have.

tl;dr?

The power resides in the people, they just have to stop being lazy assholes.
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I have devised a 3-step program

1) Illicit a "we're supportive of you" response to an email

2) "Complain" about a friend who has unsupportive parents, who aren't cool with them coming out

3) If they reaffirm their "supportiveness", come out. If they trash my friend, don't.

I asked the friend's consent of course to sharing their story.


Step 2 of course will make them suspicious, which should make their response more accurate, I hope, since they'll be thinking that I might be thinking of coming out. There's no risk until step 3, at which point I should have a very firm idea of their response.

Pls call me out if there is a flaw in this plan. I've already sent the step 1 email and am awaiting a response.


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PS: Wouldn't it be hilarious if they saw my username over my shoulder once and are watching this thread right now?

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Wouldn't it be really funny if your parents were actually members of this forum?

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That would be incredibly disturbing. You're all a bunch of weirdos

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So are you, Toph.

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I have devised a 3-step program

1) Illicit a "we're supportive of you" response to an email

2) "Complain" about a friend who has unsupportive parents, who aren't cool with them coming out

3) If they reaffirm their "supportiveness", come out. If they trash my friend, don't.

I asked the friend's consent of course to sharing their story.


Step 2 of course will make them suspicious, which should make their response more accurate, I hope, since they'll be thinking that I might be thinking of coming out. There's no risk until step 3, at which point I should have a very firm idea of their response.

Pls call me out if there is a flaw in this plan. I've already sent the step 1 email and am awaiting a response.
I thought about suggesting something like that earlier but then didn't because I'm not sure how that would really play out.

There is a big chance that your parents will get suspicious or even see through it right away. If they do it kinda gives them the moral high and a chance to take the initiative: they might think "he is sneaky about it, that is enough justification for me to draw a red line now before he made any irrevocable statements and tell him he is in big trouble if he 'decides' to be gay rather than to snap out of it". They might take your attempt at testing the waters about their attitude as a sign that you are unsure of your sexual orientation and checking with them whether it is ok to experiment.


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You have a point. I'm hoping that if they do take it that way, I'll be able to show them that in fact, they're the last people I've told - everyone else has known for years. Actually that's part of why I'm mostly okay with telling them now - I'm completely and absolutely secure in it, so if they do something like that, I'll be able to withstand it.

This of course has its own problems. I imagine they'll feel rather bad that I didn't trust them. That will be especially true if they prove to be accepting, as I'll have hurt their feelings despite their acceptance.

So either way, some one's going to get hurt in this, which sucks, but is sadly unavoidable at this point.


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