Some slight concerns about Payback

[bateman_]

Even though I'm excited about a new release in the sof series, apart from the odd to no advertising these are my main concerns:

- no inf & RMG, which are the only original gametypes on sof2.. the others are *borrowed* from other games. Gametypes (excluding RMG) can be modded of course if they include a proper sdk. Which leads me to my next concern..

- Download redirecting, which I'm sure by todays stadards will be included though. But I haven't heard word about it.

- no anti cheat, that is, PunkBuster nor any other 3rd party app ala VAC etc... we're not promised anything. At best we'll see PunkBuster in a patch, and it'll be exactly like on sof2, a game split in 2, 1.0 vs 1.03.. which sucks even more. If only they would include PB from the get go we wouldn't have to deal with 1.0 hackers & ignorants and wouldn't lose half our traffic to such morons.

- GHOUL, what made sof2 popular doesn't seem to have been improved much.. seeing from previews it seems you can take off limbs with the smallest caliber, no improvements on realism there! A knife throw taking heads off always bothered me on sof2 lol

I just hope payback will kick some serious ass, cause it will certainly kill what's left of sof2

[Thegoat]

I have been thinking the same thing. If its not what everyone has been expecting, SOF2 will be finished off. What if its a graphics demanding game that 70% of this community cant run? What if it gets hacked to death by cheats? What if it gets modded to death? Then we will all be sitting here holding the bag. Everybody has jumped on this band wagon, so I hope its as good a ride as we have had here. Once again I keep seeing SOF3, its not version 3, its Payback. I hope that name dosent become a reality.

[Cherry]

Perhaps it's just extreme distrust or lack of confidence but I'm in a wait and see mode right now. I'll wait for someone else to buy it and see what they think of it. I have too many games that died an early death because developers and/or producers rushed a game and screwed it up. Lack of advertising and so little word of Payback leaves me ... untrusting.

[AcE]

- no anti cheat, that is, PunkBuster nor any other 3rd party app ala VAC etc... we're not promised anything. At best we'll see PunkBuster in a patch, and it'll be exactly like on sof2, a game split in 2, 1.0 vs 1.03.. which sucks even more. If only they would include PB from the get go we wouldn't have to deal with 1.0 hackers & ignorants and wouldn't lose half our traffic to such morons.

Agreed. I will probably buy the game and play the single player side, but if no anti-cheat such as PB comes to the mp side i wont be playing.

[rebelr]

I am feeling the same way about all the things that have been posted on this so far. lets all hope it don't fall sort, and let us all down.

|FU|**Rebel**

PS. Hello... GOAT & ACE

[ChrisZ]

Im not convinced to say the least, I feel that all the aspects that made sof2mp soo good and unique have been ignored by cauldron... By the looks of things Payback will be much more similar to cod then SoF(2). Whats the use in that? COD4 is allready on its way, Payback wont stand out much and will probably get blown away by COD4 because the difference is too little. Im still a sof-fan tho, Payback will be a nice addition to my personal collection.

[infrequent]

Apart from unclear technical issues such as moddability and what seems to be a very limited selection of skins (judging by the MP Setup video) and possible no-demorecording-feature then what annoys me about Payback is the Middle-East theme seen in most of the videos. I am so fed up with Middle-East landscape and environment from TV-footage from the last many years of war that I could puke sand.

It's just so boring....