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The first thing i'd like to ask is wat makes a nOOb gun a nOOb gun????

And secondly i dont think the usas and m203 are nOOb guns....

The usas aint cos yeh sure its pretty much ultimate at close comat, (does this make the msg90a1 a nOOb gun cos its good at long range?), but it bloody useless at anything further than a few metres. So a nOOb would be completly usless with it, but any reletivly decent player would know not to use it at range.

The m203 sure aint a nOOb weapon cos if a nOOb were using it then he/she would be blowing themselves up, not you... altho wen people panic button that is pretty lame. :p

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do you want to know what n00b guns are? they are any gun that kills a crybaby. same way with hacking. people suck so much that they have to complain about everything. "oh he killed me with a gun, hes a hacker." or "he killed me with a perfectly aimed m203 gernade! lets ban him because of that and say dont use noob guns." you cant do anything about it. unless you killed every single moron and crybaby in the world. in every game and in every place, you will find people like that. that is why i have lost hope in all of mankind. *sigh* thats just what i have to say. :)

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yep i agree, i mean you dont see truly decent players moaning and whining about the guns people use, and the guns they are killed by

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If there is such a thing as a noob gun then the mm1 gets my vote. This has to be the least well balanced of all the weapons in sof2. Don't get me wrong, I think that when a person spawns then they should grab the nearest weapon and defend themselves. If that happens to be the mm1 then so be it. What hacks me off is the players who covet this weapon to such an extent that they will cross a map specifically to get it and then stay nearby and vapourize anyone who happens to pass by. We've all seen the people who stand on the roof of raven offices over the bench with the mm1 on it and come down only to reload and then climb back up. We've all been victims of these spoilers. My personal rule of thumb is to only use "captured" ones. That way, I don't think that the opposing team have any grounds for complaint. Perhaps more servers should modify them to use timed nades or smoke. Doing away with the mm1 completely seems to be a waste of a weapon to me. (btw, I believe there is a mod that makes the mm1 explode the moment it is fired!....Amusing, no doubt but I don't really think this is the way to remedy the issue.)
Anyway, in answer to your question of wether or not the m203 is "noob"....I don't think so either. (Although I prefer to see timed nades.) It has disadvantages such as the reload time which also stops you from firing the m4. (I've lost track of how many times it has got me killed!)
The USAS......hmmm. I think this becomes slightly "noob" when over-used. A bit like the mm1 only less so. Personally, I don't have any problem with it but I can understand people getting annoyed after being killed several times in a row with it by the same person.

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:agreed well said :thumbsup:

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yeh the mm1 (and the m203 grenades) should have time delays, like in other games the m203 are delayed and u can bounce em around corners too. the mm1 really needs that cos its really overpowered in sof2.

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Yeh having timed m203 grenades would make them slightly fairer and more realistic (actualy being timed in real life) but then they would lose appeal to me ,and im sure many others players, because if i use it it is because it is impact detonation otherwise i would just use a nade.....
I also dont mind the mm1, exept when players merely rush you and end up blowing themselves up just to get the kill, that is trule lame!:rolleyes:

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Guns of any type i can live with, however its these real damage servers that get me, well to be exact any weapon modded servers. I dont agree with the distance a shot gun shoots and kills you. I have had ppl kill me the full distance of the bridge in Jor1 thats stairs to stairs.. There is no way a shotgun would reach that far.

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Realy? i quite like the real damage servers... although i know wat you mean wen you say about the long range shottie kills... that can be irratating, not bein a shottie user and all.... UZI POWER!:p

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Hehe, I have had some very long range kills with the pistol! I can remember spawning in that little alcove by the swimming pool in finca on numerous occasions and (resisting the urge to panic and run) took my time and aimed at somebody's head up by the tree right at the far end and killed them! (serves them right for shooting at spawns, hehe).

I think that the real damage mods take realism a bit too far. They don't give enough time for decent gameplay between spawns.

Sponge Bob, just as a point of interest m203 nades are not actually timed in real life. Instead they are spun when they leave the weapon by flip-out fins. The centrifugal force of the spinning allows a mechanism inside to arm them and thus they detonate on impact. I takes about a quarter of a second or so (maybe less) before one is armed.
F or a detailed description of how these and handgrenades work visit HOWSTUFFWORKS.COM. (This is a great site which should be in everyones favouites).

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Thats slightly alarming why would you wanna know how a nade works.

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Dude, just visit the bloody site. lol. They won't lock you up for it!

Seriously though, it really is one of the best sites I have found (next to sof2files of course, creep creep,) and gave me a good deal of insight into the real behaviour of these 'nades. They even show the m203 working in an animation....fascinatiing. You can also look at how machine gun mechanisms work and Gattling guns etc.

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Dammit you got me ohh soo curious now i will have go visit.

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Hehe, I knew it!....enjoy.

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Yeah I don't like that idea of the "noob weapon" when someone uses it skillfully and yet people tell them it's a noob weapon

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I will leave it this time (too many posts to edit) Remember the RULES guys do not advertise other sites. It really has no relavence to the original thread question.

Just remember the rules :thumbsup:

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Sorry 'bout that. Kind of forgot.....I'll remember in future.:thumbsup:

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I like all the weapons except the m1a11 (I think thats it, the auto 45), they all have their place and balance - I think alot of those realdamage servers are way off.

I dont think there are any "noob" weapons, thought there may be "nppb" ways to use them.

I run a server thats all about explosions and gore - I have all the weapons on - and we have alot of fun - I just ask ppl not to spam. When you keep the trigger pressed on the mm1 so you see nothing but smoke, and cant even see the guy you were shooting at - thats spam. Same with the incendiary nades.

Point about the MM1 also though - I dont think its overpowered cause it is less powerfull as the RPG - as it should be itys about 2/3 the power as the rpg.

1 reason I think ppl dont like theze wpns is that they dont know how to defend against them. Many times I'll use explosives - but many times I wont - I'll let others use then and I'll just practice defending - there are many drawbacks to using explosives, and they arent that hard to exploit - 1 reason my server message is "Explosives training for the masses"

Either way - just have fun - if you dont like the wpns on a server - just go to another 1 - or make your own - dont bitch.

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:agreed

mm1, m203 and usas are definitely not noobish, and i dont get killed very much by em (cos even if it aint noob guns, the users are usually noobs lol and end up missing or blowing themselves up)

defence is key :nodding:

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Oh ok then major eyeswater..... i consider my self informed :nodding:
*under my breath* pfff and i thought i had too much spare time....:p

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What is wrong with him posting that site about how stuff works describing how a nade works? I found it very interesting.
I've read the rules, but are you saying we can't link informational sites here, in a rant n rave forum? Kind of confused on that.
And BTW, this whole thread really has no relavence ;)
A prize for anyone that can count how many times the word noob is used on this thread :cheers:

If you were not relating to that site, nevermind me.

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Like I said, I read all that.
First off, I respect you as a mod.
No offence but not allowing someone to post a site like that makes zero sense, and I doubt that the rules intended such.
So you are telling me I can't inform someone about news on www.cnn.com because that would be posting other sites?

WAY to many grey areas in that "FAQ"


just my 003

Now he was not advertising a thing, was he? was he to profit off of that linked site?
To me, that rule means someone cannot post a link to a site that advertises something that would profit them. Being this is a free site and that would be free advertising .
Am I way off here? please explain.

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Chapz, I don't want to be the source of any discord between the admin and forum users here. I accept that my post put me in breach of forum rules and I apologise to the admin for putting the address up in the first place. I put it up because I felt that it was on topic (noob nades etc.) and it would be interesting and educational to see how they work. I thought it would develop the conversation a bit and make a change from some of the other "noob" threads which seem to be a bit "circular" and repetative. :uhoh:

Like I said, I,ll remember not to do it in future. Cheers.

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Thats why I am defending this.
I've been here for a while, I know SiR Paul is cool guy, but I just thinnk this rule is very grey. I mean come on, that site was not advertising and was very informational.
Not getting into any discords, just trying to understand this particualr rule.
I don't want to post an informatinal site and have it deleted.
Any mods care to explain further?
I guess this is MY rant ;)

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Krankymonkee, -"Point about the MM1 also though - I dont think its overpowered cause it is less powerfull as the RPG - as it should be itys about 2/3 the power as the rpg."

....Ah, but the MM1 carries 7 times more ammo than the RPG! Also, it can be reloaded much more readily.

Sir Paul,- "Guns of any type I can live with"....now that is alarming! :naughty:
I'm not sure I'd like to put your shotgun theory to the test in real-life!:)

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Advertising and Pornography

Advertising of other sites/services or posting links to Pornography is strictly forbidden. The Gaming Forums staff is instructed to remove any breaches they come across and to report them to their seniors. Members advertising or posting porn links will be banned from the forums.
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Its all to do with sponsers, we have sites paying us to advertise, so why should another site get it for free? I enforce the rules as they stand. Posting links that follow the topic are allowed at the descretion of the admin, links that generate hits for other sites are not allowed. The original thread starter asked what was classed as a noob weapon, not how to make one, follow so far? I will ask one of the Admin to explain the rules in more detail if you wish?

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@ BeeF FlaPs When you sign up, you agree to follow any instruction given to you by the staff. This member of the staff told you to do (or not to do) something. Your only concern here should be whether to call him sir or my lord!

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With 'nuff respec' m'lud......it wasn't him in breach of the rules. It was me.

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LOL
I don't call anyone "my lord" ;)

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Ok, thats cool
But I still think THAT site was not advertising, but be that as it may.
carry on :)
Wow, so I can't post to any other sites here for informational things? that stinks. I enjoy helping other people when they need say, vid cards ect and I try to find them a good deal.

Is this the rules for just the sof2 forum, or gamingforums.com in general?
Because on other boards this is done on a daily basis with no moderator intervention.
Just seems way to strict here (sof2) to help people, or have fun
-good day and good luck with your sponsers :cheers:

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Ok, I did enthuse about another site. But let's get this into perspective here. The site in question is a perfectly respectable site. It does not instruct people "how to make" m203 grenades. Nor is it pornographic in any way.
The original thread starter did not in fact ask "What was classed as a noob weapon?" He asked "What makes a noob gun a noob gun?" Since m203 grenades are counted by many people on the forum as "noob" it seems perfectly reasonable to me when a person makes a misinformed statement about them (no offence to him) to point him to a source of information as to their construction / mechanism. Furthermore I believe that this actually puts my post on topic.

I'm in agreement with Beef Flaps. Surely the forums should not be policed so stringently as to suppress useful or interesting information or, for that matter, conversation. After all, isn't that what they are for? :uhm:

Btw, don't you think that a "forum magistrate" should conduct himself with more maturity and respect. That post was downright offensive.

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I just want to touch on that quote:
Please explain what you mean by that.
Am I to understand we can't link to any other site, unless it is part of your sponsors? No offennse, but that sounds crazy.
Now, if an Admin or Mod linked to a site trying to sell a product, then I could see the harm to the sponsors.
If I was to post a link to a good deal on a video card for someone, how is that advertising on my part?
I would like an admin to explain this rule in detail, maybe it will help more than me here.
I have been posting help links for 2 years now, and this is the first I am hearing of this "no link" rule.
And please answer my question about the rules applying to just the SOF2 forums, or gamingforums.com in general.
Does each forum get to make their own rules?

I have seen people sign up just to advertise a server renting business.
Now that is advertising.
BUT, if someone askes a question about "where is a good place to rent a server"
And I answer them with a link to a good place, and it is NOT on your sponser list, do I get my thread deleted? Sounds way off to me.

Again ,I respect you, Paul but i think you are reading into these rules a little too deep.

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and about this post, there is NO such thing as noob weapons... just noobs who don't know how to use weapons.
:moon:

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I dont even get why its called a n00b gun a n00ob is some oen new to the game so at 1 point in our lives we were all n00bs so i dont get why they alwasy call us noobs for beeing good a specific gun liek the m203 and usas13 or what ever lieki the m60 its good at medium range and sniper is long and usas13 is short so it matters how strategit you are nto how n00b you are.....

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:rotflmao:

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lol wtf???????????????????????????????????????? :n0e: