This is why the Desert Eagle sucks in real life:

[w00t]

im pretty shure, that if i got shot, id wanna stick with a gun that gave me a smaller whole?

yea both slugs would go through me

but id be a lil bit happier if they did it with a glock and got a smaller whole
then with a "hand cannon" and have a freakn baseball shaped whole in my chest

something tells me that the smaller whole would deff be better on my part

[Nyfie]

Originally Posted by w00t

im pretty shure, that if i got shot, id wanna stick with a gun that gave me a smaller whole?

yea both slugs would go through me

but id be a lil bit happier if they did it with a glock and got a smaller whole
then with a "hand cannon" and have a freakn baseball shaped whole in my chest

something tells me that the smaller whole would deff be better on my part

LOL
I need to make a bumper sticker "Please shoot at me with small caliber handguns only"

[TheWhiteDove]

lol.. please make it two..

[nielson.peter]

Originally Posted by Spicy Waffles

I WAS TALKING ABOUT SLUGS, not Rifle rounds, shot placement is still the most important, Desert Eagles suck in real life because a 9mm still has enough powder to blast through a human chest, a .50AE or ACP will do the exact same damage only with a hole that is a little wider, the extra powder is only to compensate for the weight and width, it has the same(or less due to surface tension on the bigger slug) penetrating force as a 9mm. Why do you think Military organizations use 9mm? because they will do as much damage while having a much bigger magazine capacity.

STOP CALLING IT A HAND CANNON OR ILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND SHOW YOU HOW MUCH OF A HAND CANNON A GLOCK17C IS!

and FYI, 5.56 fucks up internal organs bad because it F***ING EXPLODES INTO SEVERAL PEICES INSIDE THE ENEMY'S CHEST. While a 7.62 will go in and make a huge hole in their back, but it's kick back makes the round difficult.

Don't argue, I've probably shot more guns than any of you will in your lifetime.

F***ING A!

Let me give a little background so you don't think i'm a complete moron. I am (currently) enlisted in the United States Marine Corps Reserves, and am a Lance Corporal and am Military Police. That means that I carry the M9 side-arm (along with a rifle, and am trained to use the M1014 Joint Combat Shotgun (as well as the devil's piss (pepper spray (military concentration (stronger than what you can buy off the shelf))))

The military did not adopt the M9 (9mm Round) because of its f***ing stopping power, or any bulls**t that you are talking about... they adopted it because it is a NATO standard round.

Look at Police Officers, they don't have to use "NATO Standard" round, and what do they use? 40SW.
Why? BECAUSE IT LEAVES A BIG HOLE!

9mm doesn't have the ability to leave a bigger hole in a person, so if you don't hit in the minuscule (compared to the rest of the body) area where you are guaranteed a killing blow.

Oh, and to spoil your wet dreams about the 5.56mm round, the Military uses FMJ round (Full Metal Jacket), this means that they go in one side, and leave the other in one clean piece. Its Hydrostatic Shock that makes it a 1/2 way decent round.


Oh, and just for a little heads up, they were adopted because the bean-counters in washington figured that we could carry more ammo (lighter round compared to 7.62mm) for more death-dealing (well, we don't carry around guns for no reason at all )

Oh, and back to the original forum starter.. the 50DE sucks because its a (heavy) b***h.

-Peter

ed: forgot this earlier... 15rd stack does not mean more killing, it just means that we have to reload 2x in order to bring down somebody on drugs (not enough bleeding out in order to kill)

[Roaming East]

5.56mm WILL fragment explosively regardless of its round type (M193, SS109 those 77gr bastards the USMC use) even in FMJ. a bullet going 2200fps suddenly coming to an abrupt halt and radical directional shift will see the jacket shatter into generally half a dozen pieces with the lead content of the bullet fragmenting into twice as much.

At worse, the round will act like a tube of squeezed toothpaste, with the jacket flattened and bent and its lead content shattered like glass and ripped throughout the wound channel. Thats why in Iraq you see so many dead Muj with a single bullet hole followed by what looks like multiple pinholes or very light shrapnel effects.

[Nyfie]

Serious question:
Why are we bothering posting in here anymore?
We've all prooved the creator of this thread is a retard with the IQ of a glass of water.
Now we keep going off topic.
I don't think any one else should bother posting.
But meh.
Case Closed - DE isn't too good in a combat zone cause of it's size/weight. UNless you're a 2ton beefcake. Gunpowder and size of the projectile makes a big difference.

[Magnum Caliber]

Spicy Waffle, exactly what calibers of firearms have you fired? While shot placement is important, knockdown power is also important. While a 9mm is a good cartridge, an adversary could take one and still be on his feet firing back at you, as to where a cartridge like a 44 Magnum 240 Grain Semi-Jacketed hollow point would not only knock your adversary 10 feet backwards and put him on the ground, it would leave an exit would you could put a basketball through! Not to mention a 44 Magnum will go through just about anything and still have tremendous knockdown power. And a 44 Magnum has the range needed to reach out a lot further than a 9mm or a 45ACP. A Desert Eagle 44 Magnum is truly a sweet shooting weapon with range, accuracy, and incredible knockdown power, espically for someone who can use it effectively!

Magnum Caliber

[Roaming East]

Originally Posted by Magnum Caliber

Spicy Waffle, exactly what calibers of firearms have you fired? While shot placement is important, knockdown power is also important. While a 9mm is a good cartridge, an adversary could take one and still be on his feet firing back at you, as to where a cartridge like a 44 Magnum 240 Grain Semi-Jacketed hollow point would not only knock your adversary 10 feet backwards and put him on the ground, it would leave an exit would you could put a basketball through! Not to mention a 44 Magnum will go through just about anything and still have tremendous knockdown power. And a 44 Magnum has the range needed to reach out a lot further than a 9mm or a 45ACP. A Desert Eagle 44 Magnum is truly a sweet shooting weapon with range, accuracy, and incredible knockdown power, espically for someone who can use it effectively!

Magnum Caliber

Newton will NOT be denied. a 240 gram projectile is NOT going to 'knock' a 150lb+ person off their feet nor will it guarantee a kill. Placement is EVERYTHING and as far as pistols of ANY caliber, the reduction in muzzle velocity means that any appreciable mechanical damage from non CNS shots is going to be negligible. Long story short, if you HAVE to kill someone, you better use either a rifle, or a weapon that fires smaller projectiles multiple times very quickly. More people are killed from .22's on average in the US then any other cartridge.

damn this thread necromancy

[ahilej]

Why real life... aren't we all in front of a PC?! Switch off the PC, get some gun and go shooting. At a targeting practice yard, of course. Not at ANYTHING alive.

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[WARCATT]

Originally Posted by Spanker_Of_Idiots

one more thing

id sure like to meet this guy. ive heard that same "old wives" tale with about 50 variations for years, and all of them were supposed to be a "true story". ive heard it as .45 acp,9mm,30 carbine,30-06,308,7.62x39MM,etc,etc.....sometimes he was a 'radio operator", sometimes an "infantryman" ,one time he was a cook cooking morning chow, another time he was floating down the mekong on a log, and still another time he was a POW escaping from a hootch running flat out......its always my dad knows or my uncle knows or something similar. as a trained sniper, ill tell you this. if i can shoot my .308 1000 yards, bust the glass in a tower and put that round neatly behind your ear, do you really think the same rounds going to do some stupid crud like that?

im not calling you a liar, im just astating that maybe the guy made it up or something. that same old tired storys been circulating for years.

Well I have read this thread, and looking into my own back ground of people I know, talked to, and somethings I had to done... out of this whole thread, this guy is the one! That I don't question. I will listen to his veiw point of what gun is what and why it is better.. I was lost till i read his post...