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I say go read Black hawk Down. In it the bad a$$ Delta Sargent (the one who tells the Ranger Captain "this is my safety" while waving his index finger in his face) bitches about how his AP 5.56mm rounds were just going through the Somalis without doing any real damage. By that he meant he wanted to shoot someone once and have them not get up again, but with his "green-tipped" rounds it was like stabbing them with an ice pick and the area in which he had to put a round to drop them was way too small. He then reflected on how one of the Delta snipers (one of the the guys that dropped down to cover the second chopper (Durant's) and got the MOH posthumously) used the M-14 with its 7.62mm round and how that round could take someone out of the fight with one hit.

Anyways, if ya want the real deal from an expert just read this http://www .rathcoombe.net/sci-tech/ballistics/wounding.html.
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9mm goes thru the target, 45 kills the target. hand held shot gun. the DE in most games is THE crappiest gun in it. in reality, i held one, it took two hands to go around the grip, the barrel looked like it could shoot 12 guage. it was an all around gigantic weapon. another killer of the m16 was if you hit an extremity it would follow the bone and come out in another locale (elbow, shoulder etc.)
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I think you're all over reacting to waffle's claims.No need to expose your fancy calculations,they're all worthless considering you all ditch couple factors such as angle of impact,shape of the bullet,density and elasticity of the target,etc..
I believe what he meant was:with a handgun and an unarmored target infront of you,no matter if you have 9x19mm or a friggin' .600Nitro Express,the bullet will still pierce through the body with ease,therefor,if a much smaller weapon than a .50AE desert eagle can do the job,then the latter is useless.
I totaly agree with this.

The addition of the "body armor" factor is way too complicated for anyone here to continue the discussion,as for you do not know if a single .50AE bullet can pierce through body armor.
I don't know much about police body armor,but considering the makers thought it out for one second and made the body armor so that it can absorb the impact of common civilian firearms such as handguns AND hunting rifles,I really don't know what would happen.
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Okay. Let me shoot you in the left elbow with a 9mm, and the right elbow with a .44magnum or .50ae and we'll see just who's a freaking moron on this forum.

And just for your information, there are certain types of civilian hunting rifles that can tear through police issue body armor. But that's not really the issue, and some of the points you made are valid, which is why I will repeat myself again, for the third time, in caps so you people can pay attention.

FIRE AT A SOLID BLOCK OF BALLISTICS GEL WITH EACH TYPE OF FIREARM AND WHATEVER ROUNDS YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON AND YOU WILL SEE THE CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE IN POWER.

Or shoot at cinder blocks. You can control all factors in these tests with a little bit of patience, and you'll clearly see why the Desert Eagle prevails.
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But the point is not who's more powerful,it's that both can kill an unarmored human,therefor your test about firing at cinderblocks is unjustified.

For the record,it's not the rifles which are designed to tear through police armor,it's the type of round.
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ya know, I've always wondered what the desert eagle MK.XIX would do to a human skull. I've seen images of head wounds from say, a .338 lapua round and damn thats messy. But thats in a rifle like the AMP or was it AWP?
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AWM.

And for the record, specific firearms can only take specific sizes of rounds.

Also, let me shoot you once in the chest and once in the stomach each with a Beretta 92F and a Desert Eagle .50 and we'll see which works quicker.

I could end your life with a snub nosed .38 special. Are you going to tell me that gun has the same effectiveness as a glock 17 or, again, the .50?

Before spouting useless comments like the other children that seem to enjoy themselves with that on here, read through the rest of this thread and get some information on firearms, projectiles, and physics.

Besides, an unarmored human can be killed by almost any solid object moving at high speeds.
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Also, let me shoot you once in the chest and once in the stomach each with a Beretta 92F and a Desert Eagle .50 and we'll see which works quicker.

I could end your life with a snub nosed .38 special. Are you going to tell me that gun has the same effectiveness as a glock 17 or, again, the .50?
It does the same thing in the end:kill you,so in that sense,yes,it has the same effectiveness.The object of the thread wasn't to tell which one is more powerful,so read the actual thread before acting tall and mighty.

In case you still don't understand: a .50AE is more powerful than a 9x19mm,but they kill you both anyways,so the bigger and less controllable
Desert Eagle is unjustified.
It would be like using a 14.5mm hmg to hunt deers instead of using a hunting rifle like everyone else.Sure the hmg will get the job done,but you get the picture.
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yes but lets say you hit them in the arm a 9mm will hurt like hell an .50 will proboly make that arm completly useless if not kill.

Also onto another point using weapons like that is a type of pyscological warfair now think about it if the guy gopt shot right next to you with a 9mm that would proboly screw you up a bit mentaly, now try that with a .50 now that would proboly just make you turn and run.
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I find this entire thread rather weird, yet very interesting to read. But I had to file in my thoughts; I am no gunman... nor have I fired many guns in my life (apart from airsoft weapons, and I doubt that counts in as much ) but I just wanted to say that IF I, by some weird twist of fate, should be forced to actually fire a gun IRL I'd prefer if the thing doesen't rip my arm off upon firing. I am pretty much a pacifist... yet I endulge my bloodlust and rage by playing computer games. Hence no jail and no murders in my vincinity. ^^ game on!
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