You think the only people who are people, are the people who look and think like you.
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger,
You'll learn things you never knew, you never knew.
Prostitution legality isn't an on/off switch, there are many laws that apply to various aspects of it. How are you defining prostitution in your question? The linked article doesn't lend itself to a binary situation.
It is legal in Finland, with the exception that it's illegal to buy sex from a victim of human trafficking. It should be legal between consenting adults. There are private sex workers who even pay the taxes. I don't think there's street prostitution at all here, it's mostly Internet call-ups.
As you can probably guess, Sweden has crimininalized buying sex (but not selling) because of the feminist agenda. It is argued it is a form of oppressing women. Here again, the so "progressive" feminists are in agreement with conservative Christians.
Not too long ago there was a debate in television about this, and it had a prostitute talking with a sociologist, police officer and the justice minister. She said she likes the business, is 100 % on it on her own will and is making good money. Our justice minister attacked her clients as "abusers".
Indeed, just this week the Justice Ministry of Finland is preparing a study whether to ban prostitution. It isn't part of the government coalition agreement, just a personal mission of the justice minister. I don't really know her motives, atleast she's not a basic feminist because she's against same-sex marriages too.
I doubt outlawing will do any good. It's just going underground then, which makes it more dangerous for the prostitutes. Are these feminists saying to these women that they know better than they do themselves? Sex trafficking is already illegal, so it's not going to affect that.
I think there's nothing wrong with sex, and things related to it is a private matter. If it includes exchanging money, it's comparable to other services like massaging. With what legitimacy is a state preparing to control what adults do in bedrooms and whether they exchange money, even? Street prostitution, on the other hand, is mostly a public-order question.
Last edited by Rikupsoni; March 2nd, 2013 at 06:18 PM.
1 Religion tells me that non-merital sex is disallowed.
2 Prostitution [to offer sex or sexual related activities for money] would [and already is] boost the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Where you have one one AIDS patient today, you will have 50 [or more] the next year. If you issue health cards to the public [and the 'sex servers'] and limit it to the healthy only, it would create discrimination and political/racial/social tensions.
3 It would create a society with lower ethical standards. You don't want your teen daughters and/or sisters/mother to visit the male prostitutes, do you? It would also drain the youth energies to a non constructive activity.
Op should have stated some benefits of prostitution so that a regular debate could be commenced.
Edit: I just realised after reading Rikupsoni's post that what I have argued is for the disadvantages of prostitution, not that it makes it a crime. It could be absolutely legalised because protecting sensible adult citizens from the loss their own folly/ignorance/choices is not the duty of a democratic government.
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Last edited by Asheekay; March 2nd, 2013 at 06:37 PM.
Putting my personal opposition to prostitution aside, I think (with proper licensing, two-party consent, zoning, etc.) it should be legal. Victimless crimes should not be crimes.
I think it should be regulated, both parties should give evidence that they are clean. It can be a victimless thing, but it's easy to lie about your name and if you're healthy. Hell, whenever I sleep with people (haven't for a while ) I give different names, mainly because I don't want it coming back to me. I could easily lie about my current STD status and tell them I'm clean (which I am) and they would be none the wiser. Most people looking for sex don't even care, they're horny enough to take your word.
Speaking from experience, I hooked up with multiple people when I was in NYC fairly recently, not only was I doing something extremely dangerous (sneaking out of the hotel at 11PM to meet up with random people), I also had no idea if I was being lied to or not. Which is how I know horny people are too trusting; they took my word, and I took theirs. Thankfully it all worked out, which is when I realised I had a problem.
Long story short, legalise it and control it, like alcohol, cigarettes, etc. People say it's a victimless thing, but it's not always. People do, and have, gotten hurt.
This post is probably full of absurdly controversial stuff, try not to take it too seriously.
Last edited by Schofield; March 2nd, 2013 at 06:54 PM.
Prostitution legality isn't an on/off switch, there are many laws that apply to various aspects of it.
Yeah?
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Originally Posted by Toph
How are you defining prostitution in your question?
Straight up offering sex for money. Out in the open if you want.
You think the only people who are people, are the people who look and think like you.
But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger,
You'll learn things you never knew, you never knew.
1 Religion tells me that non-merital sex is disallowed.
2 Prostitution [to offer sex or sexual related activities for money] would [and already is] boost the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Where you have one one AIDS patient today, you will have 50 [or more] the next year. If you issue health cards to the public [and the 'sex servers'] and limit it to the healthy only, it would create discrimination and political/racial/social tensions.
3 It would create a society with lower ethical standards. You don't want your teen daughters and/or sisters/mother to visit the male prostitutes, do you? It would also drain the youth energies to a non constructive activity.
Op should have stated some benefits of prostitution so that a regular debate could be commenced.
Edit: I just realised after reading Rikupsoni's post that what I have argued is for the disadvantages of prostitution, not that it makes it a crime. It could be absolutely legalised because protecting sensible adult citizens from the loss their own folly/ignorance/choices is not the duty of a democratic government.
1) Religion has no place in law
2) This is something regulation would help. I believe that legal, properly regulated, prostitution could actually help stem the spread of STDs because both parties could be sure that they were getting only what they paid for.
3) Because kids are totally going to spend all their time and money on prostitutes instead of just hooking up like they already do. Totally. besides, the government isn't the ethics police.
If someone wants to do something, let them do it, as long as it doesn't bring harm to others. That's my philosophy, so if it was somehow regulated, it should clearly be legal.
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Should prostitution be legalized? 
) I give different names, mainly because I don't want it coming back to me. I could easily lie about my current STD status and tell them I'm clean (which I am) and they would be none the wiser. Most people looking for sex don't even care, they're horny enough to take your word. 
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