Iceland planning to censor all Internet pornography

[Rikupsoni]

Iceland considers pornography ban - Telegraph

Iceland has had printed pornography banned for long, but after Internet came along it hasn't been updated and attitudes generally have been more lax towards that.

The Interior Minister of Iceland, member of the ecosocialist and feminist Left-Green Movement, Ogmundun Jónansson is considering to change that.

Of course, the argument is "please someone think of the children" and general anti-pornography feminist attitudes. Isn't it odd that in these questions the "progressive" feminists actually agree with the most conservative Christians that pornography should be censored?

A concern is that on basis of restrictions like these governments usually push the limits of censorship. A child pornography censorship list in Finland was leaked to Wikileaks and it contained non-pornographic material that was just wrongfully added by the police.

I think it's a perfect example why the so-called social liberalism paradoxically is not always very liberal. Forcing your own views that certain sexual depictions thought as illiberal are wrong and that consenting adults should be forbidden from producing or viewing such material, is social authoritarianism.

Needless to say, it doesn't only repress 'normal pornography', but homosexuality in the Internet and all kinds of kinks as well. How progressive.

[Nemmerle]

When pornography is illegal only those on protected networks will have pornography.

Which is also where the more extreme forms of porno are, and the more interesting forms of black market.

Hmm, I see a flaw in their cunning plan....

[Commissar MercZ]

Originally Posted by Rikupsoni

Of course, the argument is "please someone think of the children" and general anti-pornography feminist attitudes.

Oh curse those radical feminists

I'm going to have to look up more on this because I haven't heard of it. The earliest story on this comes from Daily Mail two days ago, so the sources or interpretation of this is questionable..

The earliest I can find about this in Icelandic news was two-three weeks ago in January when the interior minister floated the idea, which was shot down by a committee as unfeasible as far as I can understand it.

http://www.mbl.is/frettir/innlent/20...kki_ritskodun/
http://www.icelandreview.com/iceland...7211.news.aspx

[Rikupsoni]

Originally Posted by Commissar MercZ

Oh curse those radical feminists

Iceland voted on the same-sex marriage bill in 2010. Not a single MP voted against it. Iceland is not a conservative religious country at all. Their prime minister is a lesbian.

Iceland has a quota of women in company leaderboards etc.

The first newspiece I read on this was from January 23 in the Reykjavik Grapevine:

"I am not fond of bans and I support freedom of expression," Ögmundur said. "But at the same time, I want to prevent access to a industry which profits from abusing people."

So yeah. Sex is always abuse towards women. It is indeed marketed with radical feminist and social liberal nanny arguments, not religious ones.

[Nemmerle]

That the industry profit from the abuse of women just requires that some in that industry abuse women. Though I suppose strictly speaking we'd demand that it be prevalent to make the comment worthwhile (i.e. above the background noise of just a few people fucking up) - still, I'm not sure that strictly follows given that the damaged goods hypothesis of pornography seems likely to be incorrect.

[Adrian Ţepeş]

Think of the children, you godless liberal

Sex was meant to be between a man and women in the missionary position in a closed room so no one can see what they're doing.

[Serio]

For a country that prides itself on being the most progressive in the world, they're taking a fairly massive step backwards on this. Of course, unless they have a totalitarian government, their parliament will need to approve something like this.

Originally Posted by Adrian Ţepeş

Sex was meant to be between a man and women in the missionary position in a closed room so no one can see what they're doing.

Also known as backroom politics.

[Adrian Ţepeş]

Agreed; doggy-style is reserved for the public

[Flash525]

I'd actually support this. Pornography is far too easy to come across as of late, even if accidental.

Originally Posted by Adrian Ţepeş

Sex was meant to be between a man and women in the missionary position in a closed room so no one can see what they're doing.

Actually, I'd say it isn't. Back when we were living in caves and hunting for food, I doubt 'the missionary position' was the most used.

[Nemmerle]

So your solution to something being, in your opinion, too easy to come across is to make it illegal. Wow, it's a good thing I'm not legislating my morality over you on that basis.

That just seems a principle that's going to go really badly wrong really quickly.