Iceland planning to censor all Internet pornography

[Flash525]

Originally Posted by Nemmerle

So your solution to something being, in your opinion, too easy to come across is to make it illegal. Wow, it's a good thing I'm not legislating my morality over you on that basis.

That just seems a principle that's going to go really badly wrong really quickly.

Allow me to elaborate.

Pornography (and explicit content) is plastered everywhere these days; in films, on top-shelf magazines, on television adverts and, more commonly, the Internet.

If you want alcohol, you go out to shops to buy it, or take a trip down the local pub. If you want a new car, or a drive, you go to a race track or a garage. If you want pornography, you should need to go to specific places (such as .xxx domains) to get it.

It shouldn't be freely available to every Tom, Dick and Harry.

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by Flash525

Allow me to elaborate.

Pornography (and explicit content) is plastered everywhere these days; in films, on top-shelf magazines, on television adverts and, more commonly, the Internet.

If you want alcohol, you go out to shops to buy it, or take a trip down the local pub. If you want a new car, or a drive, you go to a race track or a garage. If you want pornography, you should need to go to specific places (such as .xxx domains) to get it.

It shouldn't be freely available to every Tom, Dick and Harry.

Because? If you just didn't want a porn scene in the middle of your gunfight movie, I could at least understand it. But you don't want it to be easy for people to get because?... It really seems like you just want to make another church-law here.

[Adrian Ţepeş]

Originally Posted by Flash525

Allow me to elaborate.

Pornography (and explicit content) is plastered everywhere these days; in films, on top-shelf magazines, on television adverts and, more commonly, the Internet.

If you want alcohol, you go out to shops to buy it, or take a trip down the local pub. If you want a new car, or a drive, you go to a race track or a garage. If you want pornography, you should need to go to specific places (such as .xxx domains) to get it.

It shouldn't be freely available to every Tom, Dick and Harry.

You speak as if pornography is as dangerous or unhealthy as alcohol.

[Asheekay]

Originally Posted by Flash525

Allow me to elaborate.

Pornography (and explicit content) is plastered everywhere these days; in films, on top-shelf magazines, on television adverts and, more commonly, the Internet.

If you want alcohol, you go out to shops to buy it, or take a trip down the local pub. If you want a new car, or a drive, you go to a race track or a garage. If you want pornography, you should need to go to specific places (such as .xxx domains) to get it.

It shouldn't be freely available to every Tom, Dick and Harry.

I agree to one part of your perspective. Pornography should indeed be out of the mainstream tv and internet. I am talking about those tv channels which are broadcasted for the general public, not people of a specific interest. It could continue on purely pornographic channels though. So that when a man watches a family drama with his daughter and young son, they don't all get embarrassed by the pornographic scene somewhere in the middle of it.

Its ok for movies to contain pornographic material but then they should have a pornographic rating. So that those who feel like watching them should have no hinderance and those who want to avoid it should know what to avoid.

So I think its not about being free or any such thing. Its about enabling those who want to avoid it, to be able to avoid it.

(i can't wait to see my rep page tomorrow and read all the negative reps there)

[Nemmerle]

This seems like making up a problem where none exists to justify a law. The internet is a demand based service, it's not like you're likely to just randomly wander into porn. Similarly the only show I can think of with porn in it recently has been Game of Thrones - and that was broadcast on HBO so it's not like people didn't know what they were getting themselves into.

[Adrian Ţepeş]

Originally Posted by Asheekay

(i can't wait to see my rep page tomorrow and read all the negative reps there)

Yes well, most of us don't usually neg rep each other for having difference of opinion. Even if they are umm..."cynic."

Also, what differentiates erotic sexual imagery from romance scenes? It's the tone and the theme, not the actions themselves.

[Nemmerle]

Cynical would be to see that as a ploy for rep, resulting from the hope that people would act so as to counterbalance the hypothetical actions of others.

You notice you can be recursively cynical?

The hope that people would act to counterbalance the actions of others is based in a fairly fluffy view of humanity.

That fluffy view of humanity is more appropriately labelled naivety.

But the world is soft enough that that naivety could persist.

But probably only for relatively rich people while thousands die in piss and shit and agony.

But at least they're not us.

I call it bipolar cynicism

[Adrian Ţepeş]

You always say the right things, big boy

[Emperor Benedictine]

Originally Posted by Asheekay

Its ok for movies to contain pornographic material but then they should have a pornographic rating. So that those who feel like watching them should have no hinderance and those who want to avoid it should know what to avoid.

I feel the same way, about movies where there are more than three people wearing hats.

Now don't get me wrong. I understand that hats are a part of life and that large numbers of people do tend to wear them (sigh), but that doesn't mean that I want to be exposed to it constantly, especially when I'm in the presence of family members who might not be ready to see that sort of thing or who might be more sensitive to it than I am. Fundamentally the reason I'm watching a movie is not because I want to see things that make me feel awkward or uncomfortable, but simply because there are too many hours until my eventual death to spend NOT watching movies.

So what I want to know is why there isn't anyone who caters to my needs, and who warns me when a movie or TV drama will contain sex/violence/language/more than three people wearing hats so that I'll know to choose something more wholesome instead? Or in other words, why do I constantly find myself watching movies with so much shameless hat-wearing when I think I've made it clear how much I don't want to see it? Why am I so powerless to avoid seeing things I hate?