This Monday a suspicious bag was dismantled by the police at the Bonn central station. Apparently it was a bomb comparable to those used in the Madrid attacks. There has been a similar incident in 2006 when two bombs failed to detonate on trains near Cologne.
Police arrested some Salafists but had to let them go as eye-witnesses couldn't positively identify them. Islamists are still the prime suspects as the bomb was apparently placed by someone with "dark skin colour".
Lately right-wing terrorism has been more of a problem in Germany, so there are some rumors that this was an attempt to frame Islamists.
Lately right-wing terrorism has been more of a problem in Germany, so there are some rumors that this was an attempt to frame Islamists.
Or perhaps it was a false-flag of false-flag? But it is a rather weird situation that such attacks of course only do harm for their real cause. Whether it is the hardcore Islamists or Breiviks, both actually wish it was done by the other to boost their own cause. The Salafists will cause some trouble in the future though if this trend trend of fundamentalism combined with failed integration continues.
I don't however condone the trend that a threat can only come from one direction. Pre 9/11 it was left-wing anarchy, after 9/11 Islamism, and now far-right. But anyway, it doesn't really matter because a stone thrown to your head hurts as much regardless of whether it was thrown by the far-right or the far-left.
Left wing anarchists still appear every once in a while on the news. It could be any group, or even a single disgruntled person who really hates Bonn. That's why investigations exist.
Left wing anarchists still appear every once in a while on the news. It could be any group, or even a single disgruntled person who really hates Bonn. That's why investigations exist.
In principle it could be anyone. The police tries hard not to exclude anyone because they did that mistake with a series of murders by right-wing extremists over the last few years.
By now there are two suspects - one white male who apparently brought the bomb to the train station and the black male who later deposited it near the tracks. There is some speculation that the second guy stole the bag from the first guy and tried to get rid of it when he figured out what he stole.
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What would its implications be for whichever side gets the final blame for the incident? What is the expected scope of the aftermath? What about its political and social outcomes for the responsible party?
Its all a Chequer-board of Nights and Days
Where Destiny with Men for Pieces plays
Hither and thither moves, and mates, and slays
And one by one back in the Closet lays
One criminal fails to blow up his target, the other gets the shock of his life. If that isn't poetic justice I don't know what is.
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Originally Posted by Asheekay
What would its implications be for whichever side gets the final blame for the incident? What is the expected scope of the aftermath? What about its political and social outcomes for the responsible party?
I don't think there would be a lot of implications. Both right wing extremists and Islamists are already closely watched in Germany. There might be stronger anti-Muslim sentiments, but while that sucks it isn't too bad as most people are relatively well informed on the situation - there is a minority of potentially violent Muslims in Germany, but that fraction is not larger than the fraction of potentially violent non-Muslims. The difference is that the Islamists usually don't manage to do any harm (only one succesful attack out of 6 or so attempts in recent years) while the neonazis have been rather succesful.
One criminal fails to blow up his target, the other gets the
shock of his life. If that isn't
poetic justice I don't know
what is.
Die already, heretic!
Back to topic. Don't know much about terrorism in Germany. Do right and left wing muslims and anti-muslims have particular political parties too? Any representation in the social groups etc?
Its all a Chequer-board of Nights and Days
Where Destiny with Men for Pieces plays
Hither and thither moves, and mates, and slays
And one by one back in the Closet lays
Back to topic. Don't know much about terrorism in Germany. Do right and left wing muslims and anti-muslims have particular political parties too? Any representation in the social groups etc?
If I remember correctly Germany has had it's own demographic of Islamic Extremist due to nato's war in Yugoslavia, albanians from kosovo and albania have spread westward mainly to Italy, Greece and France, but also to German, during the war against Serbia, groups of them went back to join various terrorist groups namely the KLA.
Other than them, most of Germany's Muslims are from turkey that spread during last 60 years for cheap labor jobs that make up the majority, somewhere in the few million, the Albanians make up the rest of the majority somewhere near a million.
Most haven't lived in germany long enough to create any German-islam groups.
Last edited by Mihail; December 13th, 2012 at 09:21 AM.
Back to topic. Don't know much about terrorism in Germany. Do right and left wing muslims and anti-muslims have particular political parties too? Any representation in the social groups etc?
There are right and left-wing extremists, but they aren't necessarily Muslims. Then there are Muslim extremists. Left-wing extremism used to be a big problem in the 70s and 80s, not so much these days. Right-wing extremism is divided in neo-nazis and islamophobes, although there is some overlap. The islamophobes have a party but are relatively small and, so far, not violent. The neonazis have a peaceful party but also many militant groups. As for the Islamists, the problematic ones are fundamentalist Salafists, they don't have a political party, at least nothing significant.
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Failed terror attack in Bonn, Germany 
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