After a family of five was killed, and several more wounded, by Syrian mortar strikes in the town of Akcakale, in the Urfa Province of South-eastern Turkey, the Turkish military has retaliated and opened fire with artillery into Syria. There's currently no information available on whether Turkey intends to invoke Article 5 of the NATO charter(as some suspect), or if a ceasefire will be achieved before the conflict escalates.
An emergency meeting between the NATO members, including Turkey, is currently underway in Brussels.
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Was expecting this. I'm even expecting more.
To me, it seems as if one side of my bloodline will do the dirty work for NATO (as Turkey is kinda its bulldog), while the other side will greatly suffer from it too ("Kurdish - Syrian alliance" lies, much like Saddam and Al Qaida, giving reason for the Turkish "nationalists" to murder Kurdish people).
Let's see what's going to happen, although I foresee a very troubled future for Turkey.
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Last edited by Embee; October 3rd, 2012 at 02:01 PM.
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I don't think much is going to happen as long as Syria doesn't escalate further. And Syria doesn't really have much to gain from attacking NATO.
Given all the weapons and anarchy in Syria it is unsurprising that something like this happens. Probably also impossible to say who exactly fired the shots at Turkey.
Atalay said Parliament's authorization was not declaration of war on Syria but gives Turkey the right to respond to any future attacks from Syria.
"The bill is not for war," Atalay said. "It has deterrent qualities."
The bill Thursday opens the way for unilateral action by Turkey's armed forces inside Syria without the involvement of Turkey's Western or Arab allies. Turkey has used a similar provision to repeatedly attack suspected Kurdish rebel positions in northern Iraq.
Still, Atalay said Turkey's "main priority" was to "act together with the international community."
I definitely think its something to keep an eye on.
Last edited by Razgriz1928; October 4th, 2012 at 08:56 AM.
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Yes, they got a blank check now for future action. They won't probably capitalize on this incident to go into Syria, any more than the previous instances when Syria has fired on Turkish soil in pursuit of FSA rebels or the downing of their jets. They will capitalize on an event in the future though, and considering the intensity of combat around Aleppo which is near Turkey's border as well as Turkey's discomfort with the PKK front PYD in eastern Syria, it's a matter of waiting for the perfect opportunity to come up. Cue conspiracies about whether or not such a border incident will be engineered/deliberate.
With the point on the end regarding Turkey's similar action with Iraq in the past, it is important to note that Turkey's relations with Iraq has cooled as of late, due to Turkey's decision to give asylum to VP Hashemi and clashing with Iraq on regional affairs. There's also indications that Iraq has voided its parliamentary guarantee to allow Turkey to do cross border raids- they won't be able to enforce that of course, but it indicates their differences on the Syria issue. Where as Turkey has been more aggressive in calling for Assad's resignation and hosting the FSA, Iraq has been preventing FSA from operating through its borders and rather cooperating with Iran on the Syria issue.
Nothing to indicate intervention but the tension is escalating. I'm not sure whether or not the Turkish military presence along the border has been noticable increased, but it would be safe to say if it hasn't it will become so in the following days if they are serious about intervening.
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Given all the weapons and anarchy in Syria it is unsurprising that something like this happens. Probably also impossible to say who exactly fired the shots at Turkey.
Keeping in view the anti-asad interests of usa and other pro-israel nations in nato, I won't be surprised to find a full fledge nato strike on syria.
Who fired those mortars? Why! Who cares? It gives the pro-israelites an excellent excuse for invasion, so why bother investigate when the interests lay in not investigating and striking right off as they did back in 2001 afghanistan and 2003 iraq.
International politics is a dirty business.
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Keeping in view the anti-asad interests of usa and other pro-israel nations in nato, I won't be surprised to find a full fledge nato strike on syria.
Who fired those mortars? Why! Who cares? It gives the pro-israelites an excellent excuse for invasion, so why bother investigate when the interests lay in not investigating and striking right off as they did back in 2001 afghanistan and 2003 iraq.
International politics is a dirty business.
They will probably have their chance sometime soon, considering the Turkish government has their blankcheck from parliament to respond as they want. But it seems Turkey would want the cooperation of more nations, rather than having the whole quagmire on their backs.
I wouldn't say this is a matter of "pro-Israelites", you are right that international politics are dirty but it's also tangled and complicated at times. Turkey isn't necessarily the warmest ally to Israel's policies to the Palestinians, but they find themselves on the same side with respect to Syria at least.
Edit: Another mortar attack, again. Six days in a row? Sheesh.
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Originally Posted by Asheekay
Keeping in view the anti-asad interests of usa and other pro-israel nations in nato, I won't be surprised to find a full fledge nato strike on syria.
Who fired those mortars? Why! Who cares? It gives the pro-israelites an excellent excuse for invasion, so why bother investigate when the interests lay in not investigating and striking right off as they did back in 2001 afghanistan and 2003 iraq.
International politics is a dirty business.
It could go either way. There are some benefits to taking down Assad, but there are also a lot of risks and costs involved. Especially for Turkey and Israel.
Turkey and a number of Arab states are more important supporters of the rebels than the rest of Nato or Israel for the time being.
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I didn't mean that Turkey is a pro-israelite but it definitely would serve for the interests of strong pro-israelites in nato, considering how it wooed to get included in the european union.
Now it doesn't make much sense to me to keep cannonading over the borders for six consecutive days and killing lots more syrian civilians and military personnel than turkey had lost in the stray shell that landed inside its border.
Could it be that turkey is provocating the syrian military into a got cross firing incident? Of course an urgent nato war council will ensue, sending a whole fleet of fighter jets and tanks into the poor country and rampage it till they push it back to stone age and then start the glorious task of 'nation building' and leaving a puppet pro-european government in charge in the name of 'rehabilitation of democracy'.
Somebody remind that pompous turkish president that when america was undergoing its civil war, the other nations let them settle their issues themselves and did not fiddle in for their own interests. The douchebag also needs to be reminded that when turkey was fighting its civil war back in the post-ww1 days, syria did not pull its leg in the matter for one excuse or the other. Same for france, india, bangladesh and china.
Oh, but the beings of clay so quickly forget their past in the ego of the present.
Its all a Chequer-board of Nights and Days
Where Destiny with Men for Pieces plays
Hither and thither moves, and mates, and slays
And one by one back in the Closet lays
Last edited by Asheekay; October 9th, 2012 at 09:29 AM.
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