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Old August 2nd, 2012   #31
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Default Re: This made me quite angry (Chick-fil-a and gay marriage)

Am I the only one that experiences strange thoughts when hearing the name "chicken filler" err... "chick fill-a"?

Why would a company openly support a political agenda (with the exception of arms manufacturers etc. supporting taking up arms...)? I certainly wouldn't visit a business more often because they share my ideals, and if they oppose my values I may or may not frequent them less often. The primairy reason would be price versus quality and service though... So what is their goal? I it an attempt to discourage homosexuals from seeking employement there? Could they decline people because of their sexual orienation??

In the Netherlands certainly not, since article 1 of the constitution says that "All who remain in the Netherlands, willl be treated equal in all instances. Discrimination on grounds of religion, beliefs, political views, race, gender or any other base is not allowed.". Though ofcourse there is a workaround: declining a job because you "don't fit in with the companies workingculture"

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Why would a company openly support a political agenda (with the exception of arms manufacturers etc. supporting taking up arms...)? I certainly wouldn't visit a business more often because they share my ideals, and if they oppose my values I may or may not frequent them less often. The primairy reason would be price versus quality and service though... So what is their goal? I it an attempt to discourage homosexuals from seeking employement there? Could they decline people because of their sexual orienation??
*Officially* the position they have on gay marriage is only a corporate one and not a matter of hiring. There's also the matter as to whether the profits of CFA are used to help support various anti-gay marriage outfits. The accusation has been there, but it has yet to be proven as such. As it stands the issue here is more of A. Whether a business should take an opinion like this and B. Gay marriage in general. There's also a broader discussion which you mentioned too as to the role of a business and whether or not they are entitled to the the same individual rights of "Freedom of Speech" here.

As to why CFA does this, it's a combination of the founder and owners' own opinions as well as a good business image. Many CFA's are down here in the South and people are generally supportive of those places that declare themselves to be guided by Christian principles. Chick-fil-a is not the only one that does this- around here there are several small stores that also sometimes proudly declare that they are "Christian-owned", which seems to have become synonymous with the family-owned small business mentality here.

For a fast-food chain like Chick-fil-a, it helps to try and differentiate themselves from what is usually considered to be a very "big business" atmosphere. At least where I am, the main American casual fast food chains are McDonalds, Wendy's, and to a lesser extent Burger King and Whataburger. To top that off CFA is usually bigger on franchising, so as to continue the appeal of a 'locally-owned' shop that is inline with "Christian principles"- presumably the same of its population.

This Christian-based principle of CFA goes so far as to have all the places closed on Sunday and Christmas, no exceptions.



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Default Re: This made me quite angry (Chick-fil-a and gay marriage)

I just had to post this:



Of course that's not the full segment, but it's hilarious xD
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Of course that's not the full segment, but it's hilarious xD
I just watched that episode. That was nicely done.

I also liked his conclusion that in the end of this conflict gay people will still end up with gay marriage while the biased crowd will get type 2 diabeters.

Stewart makes a few pretty good points about some of the exaggerated feedback to this incident though.


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Of course that's not the full segment, but it's hilarious xD
Personally, I've liked what Conan O'Brien's been doing with it on his show. It concerns the Jim Henson Company (Muppets, Seasame Street, etc.) pulling its line of toys from Chick-fil-a over this issue, and how Chick-fil-a responded to that.





Of note too is a rather idiotic way CFA has been waging its PR battle on the internet:



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