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After having seen this in Spamming Forum:I got thinking; not about why the full animation couldn't be played, nor about what the actual end result might be, but rather the reason for it.

Why are we so fascinated by female nipples? It's okay to post pictures of side boobs, a woman's cleavage, or a picture from another angle, yet the minute a picture is posted of the actual nipple, it becomes a different picture. Men have nipples; some of us walk around through the street showing them off; I'm sure on some occasions, women do this too, though I doubt it's as common.

What is so special about nipples? I'm rather curious here. Not to say I don't like them, I'm sure they're all great, I'm just not understanding the specifics behind the male brain with the reasoning. :uhm:

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In that thread you'll notice my post like right after that picture. 95% of those breasts are visible in that .gif, I find it odd that once the nipple is in view it suddenly becomes a negative image.

It's dumb, I don't get it, and I never will.

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Neither do I. We seem to have this mentality that blood/guts/violence is all ok but you see a breast and all hell breaks loose.


I'm sure most of us spent a good portion of our early lives sucking on them for crying out loud.


EDIT: Now that I think about it, the babies need for milk from the mother probably has some sort of sub conscious in grained fascination with female breasts in all humans.

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OMG GIRL NIPPLE! I don't get the big deal. I guess it's like little kids running around naked. Why do I use this metaphor? Consider biology between the sexes, both sexes have mammary glands and nipples, however, nipples only become sexual if they themselves are mature on top of mature mammary glands. In a typical situation, only a female's mammary glands and nipples fully mature, so, suddenly women are not allowed to run around topless on a hot day so that we can have tan line free chests like you guys, unfortunate if you ask me. :cort: Stop being jealous that our chests develop so we can avoid ugly tan lines! *shakes fist*

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I'm all in favour of that Moregun. You should run around the streets of New York City naked in protest!

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Or at least on Tinychat. I think we could have a nice scientific study of the effect.

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As an additional service, we'll give you a free cancer-exam. You can't be too careful, amirite?

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Right, just noticed that this thread is in th Pub where we should at least attempt someone civil conversation.

One thing I don't get is woman do the "why can't I go topless when I want, I have rights, guys do it all the time, there is nothing wrong with it, etc..." stuff but when actually asked to get them out it's all "NO WAY you pervert!" then there is pepper spray involved.

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Or mace. And I don't mean the spray, medieval wenches be crazy.

I don't get it either, but I must admit to being a slave to nipples. As it were...

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To answer your question, Stalker, it was because you asked and by asking you're demonstrating that you are expecting something. Also since it's rather taboo in our culture it's a far more exciting thing for a man to see a woman's chest than vise versa. Just because we'd like to go topless, doesn't mean that we want you staring at us.

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Only from a woman would you get this sentence. One could argue that if you didn't want us staring at you, you wouldn't run around topless.

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The female nipple is similar to the male nipple in every single way (bar the fact that it has an extra function of being able to produce milk for infants) so if we, as a society, are going to frown upon the public exposure of a female nipple then we should ban the exposure of a male nipple in public too. Except we won't because society is flawed like that, not to mention highly illogical, so instead we'll just continue to allow men to flash their pecs but frown upon an attractive female getting her boobs out.

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Wouldn't you feel a bit uncomfortable if you were shirtless and I was having a vacant-glare staring match with your nipples? It just seems like a situation to be avoided.

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But what's the difference between a girl checking out a guys pecs when she notices them on, say, a building site to a guy checking out a girls boobs when she's on the beach? There is none. You can't expect to be able to stop and stare at a guys body and not have a man do the same back. To even think that is completely backhanded.

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No, in fact, I would not. Because if I had a good enough body to be going around shirtless in the first place, I wouldn't mind women noticing. Because I'd have worked for that body. Many women are born with naturally beautiful bodies and work to keep them fit, and work to stay physically attractive. And then when us guys try and check you out, we get harangued for it? That's one of the worst injustices in gender relations in the history of the planet. Next to:

>Man gets mad at woman for legitimate reason
>Woman gets COUNTER mad at man, just for being mad
>Man admits he's stupid
>Man buys woman ice cream

Exactly. The ladies can check us guys out (well, us attractive ones anyways) all they like but heaven forbid we get caught looking.

And notice I say..."get caught." ;)

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Perhaps its because we associate all the curved limbs of a woman's body with sex?

The same way a man's mind instantly jumps to the bedroom fantasy when he sees nice-shaped female hips even though the sexual organs are not located in the hips.

Women are a symbol of softness and every unseen part of her which is soft and curvy arouses very manly sentiments in a male brain.

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Amen to that. If a girl wants to check me out for my rockin' body then they are more than welcome. I've worked hard to get this body so I'd take it as a compliment if they want to take a long hard stare so, in my opinion, a woman should take it as a compliment if we want to check their bodies out, especially if they've worked hard on getting a figure like that. It's a no-win scenario. You don't notice their beauty, you get called an ignorant pig. You notice their body, you get called a pervert.

On a sidenote, I would like to point out I have worked hard for this body o' mine. It's the body of a god. Buddha, to be precise.

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lol, point taken, but I don't stop and stare, it's just not something I care to do because I know I'd be uncomfortable with it. Usually if I see a ripped guy I shudder and wonder what kind of torture he had to put himself through to show that grotesque amount of muscle and how his body will react to the strain later. Overall, I really don't give a shit about that sort of thing. To be quite honest I notice eyebrows and shoes before torso, I have no idea where my eyes go to (OOOOH PHO RESTAURANT!!) in between those places.

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Then you are the sort of woman that every female should strive to be, and that every man desperately wants. Obviously a small part of love is always going to be about physical/sexual attraction, but those things shouldn't matter most. I know they don't to me. Sure, I joke about in the Babe Forum and other places, but...when it comes down to it (at the risk of sounding like a prick) my last girlfriend wasn't ridiculously beautiful. But I loved her nonetheless.

And she loved me, in all my unhealthiness and fatness. That's all I really want, and I think that's all anybody really wants is to be loved for who they are, not what they look like.

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Darn skippy, and please don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you guys "pigs" nor trying to, just voicing a female side of the argument (gosh it would be great if Lusty would back me up here :P ). I definitely agree that to a degree we all can be rather shallow, the point I'm trying to make is while it's nice to be appreciated should the physique allow for it, but it's just kinda awkward to be stared at like a zoo animal :P

And I also agree with you on relationships totes, your partner doesn't have to be perfect, nor should they or even you be. Thrive in those imperfections and embrace whatever advantages you may have as an added bonus, it'll make you much happier than simply a trophy wife in the long run. Well, unless you're a gazillionaire and you can afford to trade her in for the new model every 10 years or so ;) (kidding!)

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Because it elicits a sexual reaction from a subconscious primal need to procreate? A primal need that draws us to mature mammaries that will provide adequate milk to our offspring? Just my theory.

And anything sex is inappropriate because with civilization comes the suppression of our basic animal instincts. We are above nature, or so we wish to believe.

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Simple. Women cover them up, and like everything, humans want what they can't have. Thus, men want nipples because women say we can't have them.


Ahem, on a serious note. :lulz: I'm agreeing with what most everybody is saying, and I find S.T.A.L.K.E.R's assesment to be extremely interesting. Perhaps men have something hardwired into us that female breasts and nipples give life, but if that theory was true, why wouldn't women be fascinated with other womens breasts? Afterall, not only males were raised on their mothers milk.

So at first thought it makes sense, but a closer look reveals it makes no real sense at all in my opinion.

But Red Menace brings up a good point, perhaps we are hardwired to be "fascinated" with females breasts/nipples not because we were weaned on them, but because they can provide sustenance for our children in the first stages of their lives.

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Who says they arn't? :naughty:


Or perhaps the fact they have them cancels out that attraction.

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Like violence?

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Perhaps.

Like it's nothing special to them because they see them all the time? Maybe that's why when girls begin to reach their teens they want nice big breasts, then when they reach teenage years they want to show them off because they finaly got them - and then by aduthood they realize they are just another body part. We're on to something.

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By negative, you mean its no longer as interesting right? Rather than oh my god, it's showing a nipple, I must turn away. Just clarifying here. :)

Possibly, although once you've matured, there are very few people that actually have the desire to do certain things to their mothers, compared with the things they'd like to do to these other women.

Oh, you're more than welcome to run around topless if you so wish it. I serenely doubt anyone here is going to try and stop you. I'm just trying to figure out what the difference is between a topless woman, and a topless man; specifically, they're nipples. And yes, I know that sounds very wrong. :uhoh:

Think that's answered. Also, I would bet that some women probably wouldn't mind getting them out to show some people, providing the person asking is to their taste. Otherwise, yes, you are that pervert with pepper in your eyes.

You may be right, though this isn't because of our base instincts, but more so our culture. That being the case, why has our culture evolved this way?

Eyebrows, to a point I can understand, but shoes? Few people (if any) are going to be wearing shoes all the time. :lookaround:

See, I'm going to have to disagree with this (even though I actually agree with you). I'm disagreeing on a broader spectrum though. What you've just stated is more an opinion than it is truth. It all depends on the person you are. People with good bodies may tell you the complete opposite of what they expect from women, heck, some people use women for their pleasure and then ditch them once bored. It's a nasty little habit. I'd say men should respect women (and vice versa) but that's just an opinion (one I'm sure you'll agree with me on). Your statement came across as though it should be a universal belief.

In addition, as MoreGun has stated, everyone (to some degree) is shallow, regardless of whether they're going to admit it or not. If we weren't a shallow species, we wouldn't judge others at all; at least until we get to know them well ~ but then we don't get to know a lot of people well because we're always judging them. Swings and roundabouts?

I could have read it in the wrong context, if so, I apologise.

For what it's worth (and again, in my opinion) I find this to be true. In my experience (not personally, but from afar) those couples who are the hot couple tend not to stick together for as long as others. One always ends up bored, decides to play away ect. It's usually the couples that don't want for much that stick together.

You're kidding, but it is a truth. You've got to think though, if you were loaded and could afford a newer, younger model (cause lets face it, these girls aren't in it for the love) you might as well make the purchase. You'll get a bit of fun from it, and the girl will get all her accessories bought for her. Plus, if the girl in question is that... way inclined, she's in the perfect place.

Can't take your money with you, might as well spend it on a hot, money-grabbing whore whilst you can, right? =p

Not everyone is violent though. I would say, as a species, we are destructive (least to the planet, wildlife and nature). Every species is going to contend between themselves, and we're no different, no matter what we think ourselves.

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Yeah, you wouldn't mind women noticing.

Now imagine it was me asking the question.

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Oh Benedictine. If you're interested in me, all you have to do is say so.

Otherwise, don't try to derail the thread so...noticeably.

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I don't think I'm the one who "noticeably" changed the subject from why we should have a particular taboo, but okay.

Hopefully you understood the point anyway, that unwanted sexual attention is unwanted sexual attention, regardless of what you feel owed by complete strangers.

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That is an interesting question now. In regards to this, it is further interesting to know that many of the ancient civilizations did not have the women covering their breast. Take as an example to it, the Aztecs, the Mayans and the Africans (where STILL women do not cover the breasts). And more interestingly, the men there did not have glands shoot a burst of manly hormones with the sight of a woman's chest.

It is only in the modern world that males have base instincts awakening with the sight of a woman's chest because that region is now concealed behind the clothing.

Here, for an instant, imagine that you are in the Tibetan region where women cover only one of their breasts. Naturally, for the first few days your hormones would mess you up quite often. The important question is: will it stay like that in the long run or will you start considering the breasts just as another part of a woman's body (beautiful and admirable definitely, but not exactly very desires-arousing)?

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I'm not referring to you directly, Morgan, so I apologise if that seems the case. I was referring to females in general. There are a great number of women who will stop and admire a builders body (just an example) and it need not be a 'ripped, muscular' body as you say, just slim/athletic/toned/average guys. And in doing so they open the path for guys to stop and admire the female form. As explained, it's a two-way street.

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Because the nipple is what makes everyone's tits different?

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I don't understand that... because nipples are different, they are considered taboo? Everybodys nose's are different, those aren't considered taboo.

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Exactly, the same can be said about eyes, ears, hair, etc. Every single person on Earth is different in one way or another, it's what makes us us, and yet we all have some part of us on show. Surely if nipples are considered taboo because they're different, then we should all walk around with not a single inch of flesh on show, our eyes covered, our mouths protected, etc.

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You mean like women (are made to) do in Iraq?

Also, this just popped up in my news feed and I thought it seemed fitting.



Because it's so damn true.

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^To be honest, I don't understand what the big fascination with breasts are. Everyone has them.

Sad to say, I've seen the tits of fat guys (and I'm talking really fat) at beaches that resemble the tits of a woman, yet the woman can't show hers. Bitch please, if you're going to ban public viewing of something, make it the fat guy. In reality, neither should be banned though.

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Slippery slope from here to having "is gay" as your user title.

Anyway, guys probably like them just because the rest of society mindlessly censors them since that's the way it's always been. They are considered a no-no part and therefore grouped with other no-no parts that are actually more desirable and that desirability just kind of pointlessly radiates onto nipples.

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And yet, as a society, we accept and even embrace violence, but nudity or sex? OH GOD NO IT'S SO TERRIBLE!

Also, not gonna lie... I'm a skinny little bastard and I have bigger man-boobs then I would like...

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I don't think it's mens fault, infact I blame women, because they are the ones who shriek like a banshee when they are caught without a shirt on, causing men to quickly run away as if we just par-took in a murder or rape. :lulz: